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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Teng Long <dyroneteng@gmail.com>
Cc: avarab@gmail.com, derrickstolee@github.com,
	git@jeffhostetler.com, git@vger.kernel.org, me@ttaylorr.com,
	tenglong.tl@alibaba-inc.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 4/5] pack-bitmap.c: retrieve missing i18n translations
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2022 09:45:56 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqq8rp43m7v.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220707115912.75774-1-dyroneteng@gmail.com> (Teng Long's message of "Thu, 7 Jul 2022 19:59:12 +0800")

Teng Long <dyroneteng@gmail.com> writes:

> On Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2022 11:07:26 -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>
>
>> The verb "retrieve" is puzzling.
>
> I use "retrieve" because I think they should be there but actually missing.
> But If it's not appropriate here I will change another word like "add".

To retrieve is to get/bring something back and regaining possession
of, which implies that the thing existed somewhere already but at a
wrong/different place, and the only thing you are doing is to move
it to the right place, but in this case, the translations did not
exist.  The patch is marking more strings for translation.  And the
act of marking them for translation will cause i18n/l10n folks to
translate these strings, which will (finally) allow _("...") to
retrieve the translated strings at runtime.

So "retrieve" is indeed involved somewhere in the process, but using
the verb skips a few steps.

    Subject: [PATCH 4/5] pack-bitmap.c: mark more strings for translations

perhaps?

>> If we were to do this, to avoid burdening translators with double
>> work, we probably would want to fix the "C" locale version of the
>> string, either as a preliminary clean-up before this step, or as
>> part of this step.  From Documentation/CodingGuidelines:
>
> Yes.
>
> Does git have any NOT "C" Locale string?

Sorry, but I am not sure what you are asking.  What I meant is that
a hunk like this from the patch in discussion:

 	if (bitmap_size < 0) {
-		error("Failed to load bitmap index (corrupted?)");
+		error(_("Failed to load bitmap index (corrupted?)"));
 		ewah_pool_free(b);
 		return NULL;
 	}

makes translators to first translate the above string, but we will
fix the "C" locale version (that is, the string inside _() that is
used as the key to the .po database when retrieving the translated
version) to follow our error message formatting convention to read
something like

	error(_("failed to load bitmap index (corrupted?)"));

or even

	error(_("failed to load bitmap index (corrupted?): '%s'"),
	      filename);

And the translators have to redo the work.  If a preliminary patch
fixed these up before bothering translators with more strings to
translate, they do not need to translate the current, known to be
faulty, version of messages.

> Another doublt is I found something like in:
>
>     File: ./contrib/completion/git-completion.bash
>     923    LANG=C LC_ALL=C git merge -s help 2>&1
>
> I think LC_ALL=C will override LANG=C in these cases, so I think
> `LC_ALL=C git merge -s help 2>&1` is OK here.

In practice, yes, but the code is following the convention to reduce
common confusion caused by leaving some lower precedence but common
environment variables (i.e. LANG) as their original values.

Does the line in the completion script have anything to do with
[PATCH 4/5], or is this merely your curiosity?  Avoid mixing in
unrelated things into the topic, which will only make the review
cycle unnecessarily longer, but raise a separate discussion if you
have to.

Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-07 16:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-24 11:43 [PATCH v1 0/3] trace2 output for bitmap decision path Teng Long
2022-03-24 11:43 ` [PATCH v1 1/3] pack-bitmap.c: use "ret" in "open_midx_bitmap()" Teng Long
2022-03-24 19:11   ` Taylor Blau
2022-03-28  7:59     ` [PATCH v1 1/3] pack-bitmap.c: use "ret" in "open_midx_bitmap() Teng Long
2022-03-30  2:39       ` Taylor Blau
2022-03-24 11:44 ` [PATCH v1 2/3] pack-bitmap.c: add "break" statement in "open_pack_bitmap()" Teng Long
2022-03-24 18:40   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-24 19:06     ` Taylor Blau
2022-03-24 19:03   ` Taylor Blau
2022-03-29  2:49     ` Teng Long
2022-03-30  2:55       ` Taylor Blau
2022-03-30  7:32         ` Teng Long Teng Long
2022-03-30 13:17           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-24 11:44 ` [PATCH v1 3/3] bitmap: add trace outputs during open "bitmap" file Teng Long
2022-03-24 18:42   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-24 13:22 ` [PATCH v1 0/3] trace2 output for bitmap decision path Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-29  7:38   ` Teng Long Teng Long
2022-03-29  8:54     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-04-21 13:26 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] trace2 output for bitmap decision path Teng Long
2022-04-21 13:26   ` [PATCH v2 1/5] pack-bitmap.c: continue looping when first MIDX bitmap is found Teng Long
2022-05-11 21:31     ` Taylor Blau
2022-04-21 13:26   ` [PATCH v2 2/5] pack-bitmap.c: rename "idx_name" to "bitmap_name" Teng Long
2022-05-11 21:31     ` Taylor Blau
2022-04-21 13:26   ` [PATCH v2 3/5] pack-bitmap.c: make warnings more detailed when opening bitmap Teng Long
2022-04-21 17:25     ` Taylor Blau
2022-05-06  9:08       ` Teng Long
2022-04-21 13:26   ` [PATCH v2 4/5] bitmap: add trace2 outputs during open "bitmap" file Teng Long
2022-04-21 15:51     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-06 11:27       ` Teng Long
2022-05-06 11:53       ` Teng Long
2022-04-21 16:32     ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-05-06 12:43       ` Teng Long
2022-05-10 20:47         ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-04-21 13:26   ` [PATCH v2 5/5] pack-bitmap.c: using error() instead of silently returning -1 Teng Long
2022-04-21 15:41     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-06 12:55       ` Teng Long
2022-06-12  7:44   ` [PATCH v3 0/5] Teng Long
2022-06-12  7:44     ` [PATCH v3 1/5] pack-bitmap.c: continue looping when first MIDX bitmap is found Teng Long
2022-06-12  7:44     ` [PATCH v3 2/5] pack-bitmap.c: rename "idx_name" to "bitmap_name" Teng Long
2022-06-12  7:44     ` [PATCH v3 3/5] pack-bitmap.c: make warnings support i18N when opening bitmap Teng Long
2022-06-12  7:44     ` [PATCH v3 4/5] pack-bitmap.c: using error() instead of silently returning -1 Teng Long
2022-06-14  1:15       ` Taylor Blau
2022-06-20 13:17         ` Teng Long
2022-06-12  7:44     ` [PATCH v3 5/5] bitmap: add trace2 outputs during open "bitmap" file Teng Long
2022-06-13 20:59       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-20 13:32         ` Teng Long
2022-06-14  1:40       ` Taylor Blau
2022-06-21  6:58         ` Teng Long
2022-06-22 12:51       ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-06-23  9:38         ` Teng Long
2022-06-23 15:14           ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-06-24  8:27             ` [PATCH v3 5/5] bitmap: add trace2 outputs during open "bitmap" Teng Long
2022-06-21 13:25     ` [PATCH v3 0/5] trace2 output for bitmap decision path Teng Long
2022-06-21 13:25       ` [PATCH v3 1/5] pack-bitmap.c: continue looping when first MIDX bitmap is found Teng Long
2022-06-21 13:25       ` [PATCH v3 2/5] pack-bitmap.c: rename "idx_name" to "bitmap_name" Teng Long
2022-06-21 13:25       ` [PATCH v3 3/5] pack-bitmap.c: make warnings support i18N when opening bitmap Teng Long
2022-06-21 13:25       ` [PATCH v3 4/5] pack-bitmap.c: using error() instead of silently returning -1 Teng Long
2022-06-21 13:25       ` [PATCH v3 5/5] bitmap: add trace2 outputs during open "bitmap" file Teng Long
2022-06-22 13:04         ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-06-22 15:12           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-28  8:17       ` [PATCH v5 0/5] tr2: avoid to print "interesting" config repeatedly Teng Long
2022-06-28  8:17         ` [PATCH v5 1/5] pack-bitmap.c: continue looping when first MIDX bitmap is found Teng Long
2022-06-28  8:17         ` [PATCH v5 2/5] pack-bitmap.c: rename "idx_name" to "bitmap_name" Teng Long
2022-06-28  8:17         ` [PATCH v5 3/5] pack-bitmap.c: using error() instead of silently returning -1 Teng Long
2022-06-28 18:04           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-07-05  9:04             ` Teng Long
2022-07-05 18:23               ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-28  8:17         ` [PATCH v5 4/5] pack-bitmap.c: retrieve missing i18n translations Teng Long
2022-06-28  8:58           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-06-28 17:28             ` Eric Sunshine
2022-07-06 14:19               ` Teng Long
2022-07-06 14:06             ` Teng Long
2022-06-28 18:07           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-07-07 11:59             ` Teng Long
2022-07-07 16:45               ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2022-07-11 11:04                 ` Teng Long
2022-06-28  8:17         ` [PATCH v5 5/5] tr2: avoid to print "interesting" config repeatedly Teng Long
2022-06-28  9:13           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-06-28 18:12             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-07-01 14:31               ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-07-11  4:11                 ` Teng Long
2022-07-11  3:51             ` Teng Long
2022-07-11 12:43         ` [PATCH v6 0/7] trace2: dump scope when print "interesting" config Teng Long
2022-07-11 12:43           ` [PATCH v6 1/7] clean: fixed issues related to text output format Teng Long
2022-07-11 21:08             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-07-13 11:44               ` Teng Long
2022-07-11 12:43           ` [PATCH v6 2/7] pack-bitmap.c: mark more strings for translations Teng Long
2022-07-11 12:43           ` [PATCH v6 3/7] pack-bitmap.c: rename "idx_name" to "bitmap_name" Teng Long
2022-07-11 12:44           ` [PATCH v6 4/7] pack-bitmap.c: don't ignore ENOENT silently Teng Long
2022-07-11 14:38             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-13 14:14               ` Teng Long
2022-07-11 21:22             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-07-14 15:25               ` Teng Long
2022-07-11 12:44           ` [PATCH v6 5/7] pack-bitmap.c: using error() instead of silently returning -1 Teng Long
2022-07-11 14:53             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-15  2:34               ` Teng Long
2022-07-11 12:44           ` [PATCH v6 6/7] pack-bitmap.c: continue looping when first MIDX bitmap is found Teng Long
2022-07-11 12:44           ` [PATCH v6 7/7] tr2: dump names if config exist in multiple scopes Teng Long
2022-07-11 14:40             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-11 19:19             ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-07-11 14:59           ` [PATCH v6 0/7] trace2: dump scope when print "interesting" config Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-18  8:36             ` Teng Long
2022-07-18 16:45           ` [PATCH v7 " Teng Long
2022-07-18 16:46             ` [PATCH v7 1/7] pack-bitmap.c: fix formatting of error messages Teng Long
2022-07-18 16:46             ` [PATCH v7 2/7] pack-bitmap.c: mark more strings for translations Teng Long
2022-07-18 16:46             ` [PATCH v7 3/7] pack-bitmap.c: rename "idx_name" to "bitmap_name" Teng Long
2022-07-18 16:46             ` [PATCH v7 4/7] pack-bitmap.c: do not ignore error when opening a bitmap file Teng Long
2022-07-18 16:46             ` [PATCH v7 5/7] pack-bitmap.c: using error() instead of silently returning -1 Teng Long
2022-07-18 16:46             ` [PATCH v7 6/7] pack-bitmap.c: continue looping when first MIDX bitmap is found Teng Long
2022-07-18 16:46             ` [PATCH v7 7/7] tr2: dump names if config exist in multiple scopes Teng Long
2022-07-18 20:13               ` Jeff Hostetler
2022-07-19  7:40                 ` tenglong.tl
2022-07-19 21:03               ` Junio C Hamano
2022-07-20 12:48                 ` tenglong.tl
2022-07-18 18:57             ` [PATCH v7 0/7] trace2: dump scope when print "interesting" config Junio C Hamano
2022-07-18 19:07               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-19 11:26                 ` tenglong.tl
2022-07-19 11:42                   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-19 12:34                     ` tenglong.tl
2022-07-21  9:05             ` [PATCH v8 0/6] pack-bitmap.c: optimize error messages tenglong.tl
2022-07-21  9:05               ` [PATCH v8 1/6] pack-bitmap.c: fix formatting of " tenglong.tl
2022-07-21  9:05               ` [PATCH v8 2/6] pack-bitmap.c: mark more strings for translations tenglong.tl
2022-07-21  9:05               ` [PATCH v8 3/6] pack-bitmap.c: rename "idx_name" to "bitmap_name" tenglong.tl
2022-07-21  9:05               ` [PATCH v8 4/6] pack-bitmap.c: do not ignore error when opening a bitmap file tenglong.tl
2022-07-21  9:05               ` [PATCH v8 5/6] pack-bitmap.c: using error() instead of silently returning -1 tenglong.tl
2022-07-21  9:05               ` [PATCH v8 6/6] pack-bitmap.c: continue looping when first MIDX bitmap is found tenglong.tl
2022-07-21 23:01               ` [PATCH v8 0/6] pack-bitmap.c: optimize error messages Junio C Hamano
2022-07-22  6:17                 ` tenglong.tl

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