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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Glen Choo <chooglen@google.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, "Atharva Raykar" <raykar.ath@gmail.com>,
	"Christian Couder" <christian.couder@gmail.com>,
	"Emily Shaffer" <emilyshaffer@google.com>,
	"Jonathan Nieder" <jrn@google.com>,
	"Kaartic Sivaraam" <kaartic.sivaraam@gmail.com>,
	pc44800@gmail.com, "Shourya Shukla" <periperidip@gmail.com>,
	"Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 00/20] submodule: convert the rest of 'update' to C
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:34:47 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqq1r054aiw.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <kl6la6et76bb.fsf@chooglen-macbookpro.roam.corp.google.com> (Glen Choo's message of "Tue, 15 Feb 2022 00:37:28 +0800")

Glen Choo <chooglen@google.com> writes:

> Hm, I haven't looked at where the conflicts are yet, but I'll get to it
> as I'm reviewing the rest of the feedback.
>
> And on that note, what do you think of Ævar's suggestion to split off
> the 'easy to review' and 'obvious' patches into their own preparatory
> series? I wonder if this would make it harder or easier to manage the
> conflicts.

It depends on how small an interaction the "obvious and easy" part
has with topics in flight.  In the best case, if there aren't any
the preparatory series may even graduate before the other topics
that interfere with the main part of this series becomes ready.

In a worse case, what the preparatory work to lay more solid
foundation wants to do may contradict what some of these topics in
flight want to do.  Such semantic conflicts need to be resolved
before the main part (and these interfering topics) can move
forward, and with "split off", the core of the contradicting wish
may become easier to see and what needs to be resolved may become
clearer.

So, I do not think of a way for such a split to make things harder
for later.  Of course, the "easy to review" and "obvious" part has
to be justifiable on its own, i.e. "a larger series wants to build
on this foundation and for it to work this part must be done in this
way", when the other topics wants to do the part in question
differently, becomes a much weaker justification.  But if it is
truly "obvious", it is unlikely that the benefit of the change
becomes harder to justify.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-02-14 17:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 142+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-07 11:59 [PATCH 00/13] submodule: convert the rest of 'update' to C Atharva Raykar
2021-09-07 11:59 ` [PATCH 01/13] submodule--helper: split up ensure_core_worktree() Atharva Raykar
2021-09-07 11:59 ` [PATCH 02/13] submodule--helper: get remote names from any repository Atharva Raykar
2021-09-07 12:37   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-07 13:33     ` Atharva Raykar
2021-09-07 11:59 ` [PATCH 03/13] submodule--helper: introduce get_default_remote_submodule() Atharva Raykar
2021-09-07 11:59 ` [PATCH 04/13] submodule--helper: rename helpers for update-clone Atharva Raykar
2021-09-07 11:59 ` [PATCH 05/13] submodule--helper: refactor get_submodule_displaypath() Atharva Raykar
2021-09-07 11:59 ` [PATCH 06/13] submodule: move core cmd_update() logic to C Atharva Raykar
2021-09-07 12:40   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-07 11:59 ` [PATCH 07/13] submodule: remove fetch_in_submodule shell function Atharva Raykar
2021-09-07 12:44   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-07 11:59 ` [PATCH 08/13] submodule--helper: remove update-clone subcommand Atharva Raykar
2021-09-07 12:46   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-07 11:59 ` [PATCH 09/13] submodule--helper: remove update-module-mode subcommand Atharva Raykar
2021-09-07 12:49   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-07 13:50     ` Atharva Raykar
2021-09-07 11:59 ` [PATCH 10/13] submodule--helper: remove shell interface to ensure_core_worktree() Atharva Raykar
2021-09-07 11:59 ` [PATCH 11/13] submodule--helper: remove print-default-remote subcommand Atharva Raykar
2021-09-07 11:59 ` [PATCH 12/13] submodule--helper: remove relative-path subcommand Atharva Raykar
2021-09-07 11:59 ` [PATCH 13/13] submodule--helper: remove run-update-procedure subcommand Atharva Raykar
2021-09-07 12:34 ` [PATCH 00/13] submodule: convert the rest of 'update' to C Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-07 12:53   ` Atharva Raykar
2021-09-16 10:32 ` [PATCH v2 0/8] " Atharva Raykar
2021-09-16 10:32   ` [PATCH v2 1/8] submodule--helper: split up ensure_core_worktree() Atharva Raykar
2021-09-16 10:32   ` [PATCH v2 2/8] submodule--helper: get remote names from any repository Atharva Raykar
2021-09-20 16:52     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-03 13:22       ` Atharva Raykar
2021-09-20 21:28     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-21 16:33       ` Jonathan Tan
2021-09-16 10:32   ` [PATCH v2 3/8] submodule--helper: rename helpers for update-clone Atharva Raykar
2021-09-16 10:32   ` [PATCH v2 4/8] submodule--helper: refactor get_submodule_displaypath() Atharva Raykar
2021-09-16 10:32   ` [PATCH v2 5/8] submodule: move core cmd_update() logic to C Atharva Raykar
2021-09-20 17:13     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-03 10:38       ` Atharva Raykar
2021-09-20 19:58     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-20 21:28     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-16 10:32   ` [PATCH v2 6/8] submodule--helper: remove update-clone subcommand Atharva Raykar
2021-09-16 10:32   ` [PATCH v2 7/8] submodule--helper: remove unused helpers Atharva Raykar
2021-09-20 17:19     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-16 10:32   ` [PATCH v2 8/8] submodule--helper: rename helper functions Atharva Raykar
2021-09-20 17:19     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-13  5:17   ` [PATCH v3 0/9] submodule: convert the rest of 'update' to C Atharva Raykar
2021-10-13  5:17     ` [PATCH v3 1/9] submodule--helper: split up ensure_core_worktree() Atharva Raykar
2021-10-13  5:17     ` [PATCH v3 2/9] submodule--helper: get remote names from any repository Atharva Raykar
2021-10-13  5:17     ` [PATCH v3 3/9] submodule--helper: rename helpers for update-clone Atharva Raykar
2021-10-13  5:18     ` [PATCH v3 4/9] submodule--helper: refactor get_submodule_displaypath() Atharva Raykar
2021-10-13  5:18     ` [PATCH v3 5/9] submodule--helper: allow setting superprefix for init_submodule() Atharva Raykar
2021-10-13  5:18     ` [PATCH v3 6/9] submodule--helper: run update using child process struct Atharva Raykar
2021-10-13  5:18     ` [PATCH v3 7/9] submodule: move core cmd_update() logic to C Atharva Raykar
2021-10-13  5:18     ` [PATCH v3 8/9] submodule--helper: remove unused helpers Atharva Raykar
2021-10-13  5:18     ` [PATCH v3 9/9] submodule--helper: rename helper functions Atharva Raykar
2021-10-14  0:05     ` [PATCH v3 0/9] submodule: convert the rest of 'update' to C Junio C Hamano
2021-10-14 20:46       ` Emily Shaffer
2021-12-03 19:00         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-12-03 20:15           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-04 10:38           ` Atharva Raykar
2022-01-27 16:22     ` [PATCH v4 0/7] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-27 16:22       ` [PATCH v4 1/7] submodule--helper: get remote names from any repository Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-27 18:45         ` Glen Choo
2022-01-27 16:22       ` [PATCH v4 2/7] submodule--helper: refactor get_submodule_displaypath() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-27 16:22       ` [PATCH v4 3/7] submodule--helper: allow setting superprefix for init_submodule() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-27 16:22       ` [PATCH v4 4/7] submodule--helper: run update using child process struct Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-27 16:22       ` [PATCH v4 5/7] builtin/submodule--helper.c: reformat designated initializers Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-27 16:22       ` [PATCH v4 6/7] builtin/submodule--helper.c: rename "suc" variable to "opt" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-27 16:22       ` [PATCH v4 7/7] submodule: move core cmd_update() logic to C Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-27 21:55         ` Glen Choo
2022-01-28 12:56       ` [PATCH v5 0/9] submodule: convert the rest of 'update' " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-28 12:56         ` [PATCH v5 1/9] submodule--helper: get remote names from any repository Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-28 12:56         ` [PATCH v5 2/9] submodule--helper: refactor get_submodule_displaypath() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-28 12:56         ` [PATCH v5 3/9] submodule--helper: allow setting superprefix for init_submodule() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-28 12:56         ` [PATCH v5 4/9] submodule--helper: run update using child process struct Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-28 12:56         ` [PATCH v5 5/9] builtin/submodule--helper.c: reformat designated initializers Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-28 12:56         ` [PATCH v5 6/9] builtin/submodule--helper.c: rename option variables to "opt" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-28 12:56         ` [PATCH v5 7/9] submodule--helper: don't use bitfield indirection for parse_options() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-28 12:56         ` [PATCH v5 8/9] submodule tests: test for init and update failure output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-28 12:56         ` [PATCH v5 9/9] submodule: move core cmd_update() logic to C Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-03  0:18           ` Glen Choo
2022-02-03  2:26             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-03  8:15               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-03 17:35                 ` Glen Choo
2022-02-08  8:39         ` [PATCH v6 00/16] submodule: convert the rest of 'update' " Glen Choo
2022-02-08  8:39           ` [PATCH v6 01/16] submodule--helper: get remote names from any repository Glen Choo
2022-02-08  8:39           ` [PATCH v6 02/16] submodule--helper: refactor get_submodule_displaypath() Glen Choo
2022-02-08  8:39           ` [PATCH v6 03/16] submodule--helper: allow setting superprefix for init_submodule() Glen Choo
2022-02-08  8:39           ` [PATCH v6 04/16] submodule--helper: run update using child process struct Glen Choo
2022-02-08  8:39           ` [PATCH v6 05/16] builtin/submodule--helper.c: reformat designated initializers Glen Choo
2022-02-08  8:39           ` [PATCH v6 06/16] builtin/submodule--helper.c: rename option variables to "opt" Glen Choo
2022-02-08  8:39           ` [PATCH v6 07/16] submodule--helper: don't use bitfield indirection for parse_options() Glen Choo
2022-02-08  8:39           ` [PATCH v6 08/16] submodule tests: test for init and update failure output Glen Choo
2022-02-08  8:39           ` [PATCH v6 09/16] submodule--helper: remove update-module-mode Glen Choo
2022-02-08  8:39           ` [PATCH v6 10/16] submodule--helper: reorganize code for sh to C conversion Glen Choo
2022-02-08  8:39           ` [PATCH v6 11/16] submodule--helper run-update-procedure: remove --suboid Glen Choo
2022-02-08  8:39           ` [PATCH v6 12/16] submodule--helper run-update-procedure: learn --remote Glen Choo
2022-02-08  8:39           ` [PATCH v6 13/16] submodule--helper: remove ensure-core-worktree Glen Choo
2022-02-08  8:39           ` [PATCH v6 14/16] submodule--helper update-clone: learn --init Glen Choo
2022-02-08  8:39           ` [PATCH v6 15/16] submodule--helper: move functions around Glen Choo
2022-02-08  8:39           ` [PATCH v6 16/16] submodule: move core cmd_update() logic to C Glen Choo
2022-02-10  9:28           ` [PATCH v7 00/20] submodule: convert the rest of 'update' " Glen Choo
2022-02-10  9:28             ` [PATCH v7 01/20] submodule--helper: get remote names from any repository Glen Choo
2022-02-10  9:28             ` [PATCH v7 02/20] submodule--helper: refactor get_submodule_displaypath() Glen Choo
2022-02-12 14:24               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-10  9:28             ` [PATCH v7 03/20] submodule--helper: allow setting superprefix for init_submodule() Glen Choo
2022-02-12 14:30               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-10  9:28             ` [PATCH v7 04/20] submodule--helper: run update using child process struct Glen Choo
2022-02-12 14:33               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-10  9:28             ` [PATCH v7 05/20] builtin/submodule--helper.c: reformat designated initializers Glen Choo
2022-02-10  9:28             ` [PATCH v7 06/20] builtin/submodule--helper.c: rename option variables to "opt" Glen Choo
2022-02-10  9:28             ` [PATCH v7 07/20] submodule--helper: don't use bitfield indirection for parse_options() Glen Choo
2022-02-10  9:28             ` [PATCH v7 08/20] submodule tests: test for init and update failure output Glen Choo
2022-02-10  9:28             ` [PATCH v7 09/20] submodule--helper: remove update-module-mode Glen Choo
2022-02-12 14:35               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-10  9:28             ` [PATCH v7 10/20] submodule--helper: reorganize code for sh to C conversion Glen Choo
2022-02-10  9:28             ` [PATCH v7 11/20] submodule--helper run-update-procedure: remove --suboid Glen Choo
2022-02-10  9:28             ` [PATCH v7 12/20] submodule--helper run-update-procedure: learn --remote Glen Choo
2022-02-12 14:38               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-10  9:28             ` [PATCH v7 13/20] submodule--helper: remove ensure-core-worktree Glen Choo
2022-02-10  9:28             ` [PATCH v7 14/20] submodule--helper update-clone: learn --init Glen Choo
2022-02-10  9:28             ` [PATCH v7 15/20] submodule--helper: move functions around Glen Choo
2022-02-12 14:41               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-10  9:28             ` [PATCH v7 16/20] submodule--helper: reduce logic in run_update_procedure() Glen Choo
2022-02-10  9:28             ` [PATCH v7 17/20] submodule: move core cmd_update() logic to C Glen Choo
2022-02-10  9:34               ` Glen Choo
2022-02-10  9:28             ` [PATCH v7 18/20] fixup! submodule--helper run-update-procedure: remove --suboid Glen Choo
2022-02-12 14:41               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-10  9:28             ` [PATCH v7 19/20] fixup! submodule--helper run-update-procedure: learn --remote Glen Choo
2022-02-12 14:43               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-10  9:28             ` [PATCH v7 20/20] fixup! submodule: move core cmd_update() logic to C Glen Choo
2022-02-12 14:45             ` [PATCH v7 00/20] submodule: convert the rest of 'update' " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-17  5:44               ` Glen Choo
2022-02-17  9:17                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-17 16:14                   ` Glen Choo
2022-02-13  5:54             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-13  6:14               ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-14 16:37                 ` Glen Choo
2022-02-14 17:19                   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-15  9:34                     ` Glen Choo
2022-02-14 17:34                   ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2022-02-15  9:31                     ` Glen Choo
2022-02-15  9:47                   ` Glen Choo
2021-10-14 21:50 ` [PATCH 00/13] " Glen Choo
2021-10-15  9:13   ` Atharva Raykar

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