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From: Matthieu Moy <Matthieu.Moy@grenoble-inp.fr>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	John Keeping <john@keeping.me.uk>, Andreas Krey <a.krey@gmx.de>,
	John Szakmeister <john@szakmeister.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] pull: require choice between rebase/merge on non-fast-forward pull
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 00:16:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <vpqwqpf9p2i.fsf@anie.imag.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7v4ncjs5az.fsf_-_@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> (Junio C. Hamano's message of "Thu, 27 Jun 2013 12:48:52 -0700")

Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> writes:

> Because letting a trivial merge automatically handled by Git is so
> easy with "git pull", a person who is new to Git may not realize
> that the project s/he is interacting with may prefer "rebase"
> workflow.  Add a safety valve to fail "git pull" that is not a
> fast-forward until/unless the user expressed her preference between
> the two.

IMHO, that would be terrible for beginners.

My experience with many beginners/students is: they run "git pull" to
get changes from their co-workers, don't read the messages. When there's
no conflict, it's OK, Git creates the merge commit and they continue
working. When there are conflicts, they fix it (or not), and forget to
commit, continue working, and commit when they really need to, later.
That's bad: mixing merges with actual changes is terrible. But that
works. And that's a very common mistake in my experience :-(.

Now, give the same user as above "git pull --rebase". rebase may stop
because of conflicts, the user may fix it, but then if the user
continues working, he's on a detached HEAD with a rebase ongoing. Some
of the changes went away, they may come back one day if the user runs
"git rebase --continue".

-- 
Matthieu Moy
http://www-verimag.imag.fr/~moy/

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-06-27 22:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-22 11:50 first parent, commit graph layout, and pull merge direction Andreas Krey
2013-05-22 18:07 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-05-23  9:06   ` Andreas Krey
2013-05-23  9:48     ` John Szakmeister
2013-05-23 10:07       ` Jeremy Rosen
2013-05-23 10:29       ` Andreas Krey
2013-05-23 11:08         ` John Keeping
2013-05-23 16:01           ` Junio C Hamano
2013-05-23 16:41             ` John Keeping
2013-05-23 21:01               ` Junio C Hamano
2013-05-23 21:55                 ` John Keeping
2013-05-23 21:59                   ` Felipe Contreras
2013-05-23 22:11                   ` Junio C Hamano
2013-05-23 22:46                     ` Felipe Contreras
2013-05-23 22:54                       ` Junio C Hamano
2013-05-23 23:09                         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-05-23 23:26                           ` Junio C Hamano
2013-05-23 23:53                             ` Felipe Contreras
2013-05-24  8:29                               ` John Keeping
2013-05-24  9:38                                 ` John Szakmeister
2013-05-24  0:03                     ` Linus Torvalds
2013-05-24  0:21                       ` Junio C Hamano
2013-05-24  0:24                         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-05-24  0:25                         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-05-24  0:32                           ` Felipe Contreras
2013-05-24 16:26                             ` Junio C Hamano
2013-05-24 20:47                               ` Philip Oakley
2013-06-27 19:48                       ` [PATCH] pull: require choice between rebase/merge on non-fast-forward pull Junio C Hamano
2013-06-27 20:10                         ` W. Trevor King
2013-06-27 21:20                           ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-28  1:08                             ` W. Trevor King
2013-06-28  6:34                           ` Matthieu Moy
2013-06-28  9:09                             ` W. Trevor King
2013-06-28 11:52                               ` Matthieu Moy
2013-06-28 12:28                                 ` W. Trevor King
2013-06-27 20:11                         ` Fredrik Gustafsson
2013-06-27 20:49                           ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-27 20:30                         ` W. Trevor King
2013-06-27 20:58                           ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-27 22:16                         ` Matthieu Moy [this message]
2013-06-28  1:19                           ` W. Trevor King
2013-06-28  8:09                         ` John Keeping
2013-06-28 17:22                           ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-28 17:42                             ` John Keeping
2013-06-28 22:41                               ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-02 21:18                                 ` John Keeping
2013-07-14 15:03                                 ` [PATCH] fixup! " John Keeping
2013-07-15  4:23                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2013-08-28 23:22                                 ` [PATCH] " Felipe Contreras
2013-07-18 14:30                         ` John Keeping
2013-07-18 17:38                           ` Andreas Schwab
2013-07-18 18:00                             ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-18 19:35                               ` [PATCH v2] " Junio C Hamano
2013-07-19  0:54                                 ` Eric Sunshine
2013-07-19 16:22                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-19 20:29                                     ` Eric Sunshine
2013-07-19 22:20                                       ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-19 22:30                                         ` Eric Sunshine
2013-07-19 22:55                                           ` Junio C Hamano
2014-01-22 19:08                                 ` Flimm
2013-05-24 17:11             ` first parent, commit graph layout, and pull merge direction Andreas Krey
2013-05-24 19:23               ` Junio C Hamano
2013-05-23 19:25     ` Andreas Krey
2013-05-24  9:29       ` Holger Hellmuth (IKS)
2013-05-24 13:42         ` Andreas Krey
2013-05-24 15:05           ` Holger Hellmuth (IKS)
2013-05-24 17:24             ` Andreas Krey
2013-05-23 11:34 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-05-23 12:21   ` Andreas Krey

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