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From: Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
To: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	"Derrick Stolee" <dstolee@microsoft.com>
Cc: "git@vger.kernel.org" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	"peff@peff.net" <peff@peff.net>,
	"sbeller@google.com" <sbeller@google.com>,
	"jnareb@gmail.com" <jnareb@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/12] Integrate commit-graph into fsck, gc, and fetch
Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 13:23:21 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bfaa96f8-2b9d-5ec6-0d30-7c1018146335@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mux72uds.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com>

On 5/10/2018 3:17 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
> On Thu, May 10 2018, Derrick Stolee wrote:
>
>> The behavior in this patch series does the following:
>>
>> 1. Near the end of 'git gc', run 'git commit-graph write'. The location
>>     of this code assumes that a 'git gc --auto' has not terminated early
>>     due to not meeting the auto threshold.
>>
>> 2. At the end of 'git fetch', run 'git commit-graph write'. This means
>>     that every reachable commit will be in the commit-graph after a
>>     a successful fetch, which seems a reasonable frequency. Then, the
>>     only times we would be missing a reachable commit is after creating
>>     one locally. There is a problem with the current patch, though: every
>>     'git fetch' call runs 'git commit-graph write', even if there were no
>>     ref updates or objects downloaded. Is there a simple way to detect if
>>     the fetch was non-trivial?
>>
>> One obvious problem with this approach: if we compute this during 'gc'
>> AND 'fetch', there will be times where a 'fetch' calls 'gc' and triggers
>> two commit-graph writes. If I were to abandon one of these patches, it
>> would be the 'fetch' integration. A 'git gc' really wants to delete all
>> references to unreachable commits, and without updating the commit-graph
>> we may still have commit data in the commit-graph file that is not in
>> the object database. In fact, deleting commits from the object database
>> but not from the commit-graph will cause 'git commit-graph verify' to
>> fail!
>>
>> I welcome discussion on these ideas, as we are venturing out of the
>> "pure data structure" world and into the "user experience" world. I am
>> less confident in my skills in this world, but the feature is worthless
>> if it does not improve the user experience.
> I really like #1 here, but I wonder why #2 is necessary.
>
> I.e. is it critical for the performance of the commit graph feature that
> it be kept really up-to-date, moreso than other things that rely on gc
> --auto (e.g. the optional bitmap index)?

It is not critical. The feature has been designed to have recent commits 
not in the file. For simplicity, it is probably best to limit ourselves 
to writing after a non-trivial 'gc'.

> Even if that's the case, I think something that does this via gc --auto
> is a much better option. I.e. now we have gc.auto & gc.autoPackLimit, if
> the answer to my question above is "yes" this could also be accomplished
> by introducing a new graph-specific gc.* setting, and --auto would just
> update the graph more often, but leave the rest.

This is an excellent idea for a follow-up series, if we find we want the 
commit-graph written more frequently. For now, I'm satisfied with one 
place where it is automatically computed.

I'll drop the fetch integration in my v2 series.

Thanks,
-Stolee

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-11 17:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 151+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-17 18:10 [RFC PATCH 00/12] Integrate commit-graph into 'fsck' and 'gc' Derrick Stolee
2018-04-17 18:10 ` [RFC PATCH 01/12] fixup! commit-graph: always load commit-graph information Derrick Stolee
2018-04-17 18:10 ` [RFC PATCH 03/12] commit-graph: check file header information Derrick Stolee
2018-04-19 15:58   ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-17 18:10 ` [RFC PATCH 02/12] commit-graph: add 'check' subcommand Derrick Stolee
2018-04-19 13:24   ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-17 18:10 ` [RFC PATCH 04/12] commit-graph: parse commit from chosen graph Derrick Stolee
2018-04-19 17:21   ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-17 18:10 ` [RFC PATCH 06/12] commit: force commit to parse from object database Derrick Stolee
2018-04-20 12:13   ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-17 18:10 ` [RFC PATCH 05/12] commit-graph: check fanout and lookup table Derrick Stolee
2018-04-20  7:27   ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-17 18:10 ` [RFC PATCH 07/12] commit-graph: load a root tree from specific graph Derrick Stolee
2018-04-20 12:18   ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-17 18:10 ` [RFC PATCH 08/12] commit-graph: verify commit contents against odb Derrick Stolee
2018-04-20 16:47   ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-17 18:10 ` [RFC PATCH 09/12] fsck: check commit-graph Derrick Stolee
2018-04-20 16:59   ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-17 18:10 ` [RFC PATCH 10/12] commit-graph: add '--reachable' option Derrick Stolee
2018-04-20 17:17   ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-17 18:10 ` [RFC PATCH 11/12] gc: automatically write commit-graph files Derrick Stolee
2018-04-20 17:34   ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-20 18:33     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-04-17 18:10 ` [RFC PATCH 12/12] commit-graph: update design document Derrick Stolee
2018-04-20 19:10   ` Jakub Narebski
2018-04-17 18:50 ` [RFC PATCH 00/12] Integrate commit-graph into 'fsck' and 'gc' Derrick Stolee
2018-05-10 17:34 ` [PATCH 00/12] Integrate commit-graph into fsck, gc, and fetch Derrick Stolee
2018-05-10 17:34   ` [PATCH 01/12] commit-graph: add 'verify' subcommand Derrick Stolee
2018-05-10 18:15     ` Martin Ågren
2018-05-10 17:34   ` [PATCH 02/12] commit-graph: verify file header information Derrick Stolee
2018-05-10 18:21     ` Martin Ågren
2018-05-10 17:34   ` [PATCH 03/12] commit-graph: parse commit from chosen graph Derrick Stolee
2018-05-10 17:34   ` [PATCH 04/12] commit-graph: verify fanout and lookup table Derrick Stolee
2018-05-10 18:29     ` Martin Ågren
2018-05-11 15:17       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-05-10 17:34   ` [PATCH 05/12] commit: force commit to parse from object database Derrick Stolee
2018-05-10 17:34   ` [PATCH 06/12] commit-graph: load a root tree from specific graph Derrick Stolee
2018-05-10 17:34   ` [PATCH 07/12] commit-graph: verify commit contents against odb Derrick Stolee
2018-05-10 17:34   ` [PATCH 08/12] fsck: verify commit-graph Derrick Stolee
2018-05-10 17:34   ` [PATCH 09/12] commit-graph: add '--reachable' option Derrick Stolee
2018-05-10 17:34   ` [PATCH 10/12] gc: automatically write commit-graph files Derrick Stolee
2018-05-10 17:34   ` [PATCH 11/12] fetch: compute commit-graph by default Derrick Stolee
2018-05-10 17:34   ` [PATCH 12/12] commit-graph: update design document Derrick Stolee
2018-05-10 19:05   ` [PATCH 00/12] Integrate commit-graph into fsck, gc, and fetch Martin Ågren
2018-05-10 19:22     ` Stefan Beller
2018-05-11 17:23       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-05-11 17:30         ` Martin Ågren
2018-05-10 19:17   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-11 17:23     ` Derrick Stolee [this message]
2018-05-11 21:15   ` [PATCH v2 00/12] Integrate commit-graph into fsck and gc Derrick Stolee
2018-05-11 21:15     ` [PATCH v2 01/12] commit-graph: add 'verify' subcommand Derrick Stolee
2018-05-12 13:31       ` Martin Ågren
2018-05-14 13:27         ` Derrick Stolee
2018-05-20 12:10       ` Jakub Narebski
2018-05-11 21:15     ` [PATCH v2 02/12] commit-graph: verify file header information Derrick Stolee
2018-05-12 13:35       ` Martin Ågren
2018-05-14 13:31         ` Derrick Stolee
2018-05-20 20:00       ` Jakub Narebski
2018-05-11 21:15     ` [PATCH v2 03/12] commit-graph: test that 'verify' finds corruption Derrick Stolee
2018-05-12 13:43       ` Martin Ågren
2018-05-21 18:53       ` Jakub Narebski
2018-05-24 16:28         ` Derrick Stolee
2018-05-11 21:15     ` [PATCH v2 04/12] commit-graph: parse commit from chosen graph Derrick Stolee
2018-05-12 20:50       ` Martin Ågren
2018-05-11 21:15     ` [PATCH v2 05/12] commit-graph: verify fanout and lookup table Derrick Stolee
2018-05-11 21:15     ` [PATCH v2 06/12] commit: force commit to parse from object database Derrick Stolee
2018-05-12 20:54       ` Martin Ågren
2018-05-11 21:15     ` [PATCH v2 07/12] commit-graph: load a root tree from specific graph Derrick Stolee
2018-05-12 20:55       ` Martin Ågren
2018-05-11 21:15     ` [PATCH v2 08/12] commit-graph: verify commit contents against odb Derrick Stolee
2018-05-12 21:17       ` Martin Ågren
2018-05-14 13:44         ` Derrick Stolee
2018-05-15 21:12       ` Martin Ågren
2018-05-11 21:15     ` [PATCH v2 09/12] fsck: verify commit-graph Derrick Stolee
2018-05-17 18:13       ` Martin Ågren
2018-05-11 21:15     ` [PATCH v2 11/12] gc: automatically write commit-graph files Derrick Stolee
2018-05-17 18:20       ` Martin Ågren
2018-05-11 21:15     ` [PATCH v2 10/12] commit-graph: add '--reachable' option Derrick Stolee
2018-05-17 18:16       ` Martin Ågren
2018-05-11 21:15     ` [PATCH v2 12/12] commit-graph: update design document Derrick Stolee
2018-05-24 16:25     ` [PATCH v3 00/20] Integrate commit-graph into 'fsck' and 'gc' Derrick Stolee
2018-05-24 16:25       ` [PATCH v3 01/20] commit-graph: UNLEAK before die() Derrick Stolee
2018-05-24 22:47         ` Stefan Beller
2018-05-25  0:08           ` Derrick Stolee
2018-05-24 16:25       ` [PATCH v3 02/20] commit-graph: fix GRAPH_MIN_SIZE Derrick Stolee
2018-05-26 18:46         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-05-26 20:30           ` brian m. carlson
2018-06-02 19:43             ` Jakub Narebski
2018-05-24 16:25       ` [PATCH v3 03/20] commit-graph: parse commit from chosen graph Derrick Stolee
2018-05-27 10:23         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-05-29 12:31           ` Derrick Stolee
2018-05-24 16:25       ` [PATCH v3 04/20] commit: force commit to parse from object database Derrick Stolee
2018-05-27 18:04         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-05-24 16:25       ` [PATCH v3 05/20] commit-graph: load a root tree from specific graph Derrick Stolee
2018-05-27 19:12         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-05-24 16:25       ` [PATCH v3 06/20] commit-graph: add 'verify' subcommand Derrick Stolee
2018-05-27 22:55         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-05-30 16:07           ` Derrick Stolee
2018-06-02 21:19             ` Jakub Narebski
2018-06-04 11:30               ` Derrick Stolee
2018-05-24 16:25       ` [PATCH v3 07/20] commit-graph: verify catches corrupt signature Derrick Stolee
2018-05-28 14:05         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-05-29 12:43           ` Derrick Stolee
2018-06-02 22:30             ` Jakub Narebski
2018-05-24 16:25       ` [PATCH v3 08/20] commit-graph: verify required chunks are present Derrick Stolee
2018-05-28 17:11         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-05-24 16:25       ` [PATCH v3 09/20] commit-graph: verify corrupt OID fanout and lookup Derrick Stolee
2018-05-30 13:34         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-05-30 16:18           ` Derrick Stolee
2018-06-02  4:38         ` Duy Nguyen
2018-06-04 11:32           ` Derrick Stolee
2018-06-04 14:42             ` Duy Nguyen
2018-05-24 16:25       ` [PATCH v3 10/20] commit-graph: verify objects exist Derrick Stolee
2018-05-30 19:22         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-05-31 12:53           ` Derrick Stolee
2018-05-24 16:25       ` [PATCH v3 11/20] commit-graph: verify root tree OIDs Derrick Stolee
2018-05-30 22:24         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-05-31 13:16           ` Derrick Stolee
2018-06-02 22:50             ` Jakub Narebski
2018-05-24 16:25       ` [PATCH v3 12/20] commit-graph: verify parent list Derrick Stolee
2018-06-01 23:21         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-05-24 16:25       ` [PATCH v3 13/20] commit-graph: verify generation number Derrick Stolee
2018-06-02 12:23         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-06-04 11:47           ` Derrick Stolee
2018-05-24 16:25       ` [PATCH v3 14/20] commit-graph: verify commit date Derrick Stolee
2018-06-02 12:29         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-05-24 16:25       ` [PATCH v3 15/20] commit-graph: test for corrupted octopus edge Derrick Stolee
2018-06-02 12:39         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-06-04 13:08           ` Derrick Stolee
2018-05-24 16:26       ` [PATCH v3 16/20] commit-graph: verify contents match checksum Derrick Stolee
2018-05-30 12:35         ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-06-02 15:52         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-06-04 11:55           ` Derrick Stolee
2018-05-24 16:26       ` [PATCH v3 17/20] fsck: verify commit-graph Derrick Stolee
2018-06-02 16:17         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-06-04 11:59           ` Derrick Stolee
2018-05-24 16:26       ` [PATCH v3 18/20] commit-graph: add '--reachable' option Derrick Stolee
2018-06-02 17:34         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-06-04 12:44           ` Derrick Stolee
2018-05-24 16:26       ` [PATCH v3 19/20] gc: automatically write commit-graph files Derrick Stolee
2018-06-02 18:03         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-06-04 12:51           ` Derrick Stolee
2018-05-24 16:26       ` [PATCH v3 20/20] commit-graph: update design document Derrick Stolee
2018-06-02 18:27         ` Jakub Narebski
2018-05-24 21:15       ` [PATCH v3 00/20] Integrate commit-graph into 'fsck' and 'gc' Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-25  4:11       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-29  4:27       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-29 12:37         ` Derrick Stolee
2018-05-29 13:41           ` Junio C Hamano
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-05-10 20:45 [PATCH 00/12] Integrate commit-graph into fsck, gc, and fetch Martin Ågren
2018-05-11 12:30 ` Derrick Stolee

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