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From: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Max Kirillov <max@max630.net>, Paul Mackerras <paulus@ozlabs.org>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] gitk: expand $config_file_tmp before reporting to user
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 14:31:17 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1.1709281428170.40514@virtualbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqzi9f1lb2.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com>

Hi Junio,

On Thu, 28 Sep 2017, Junio C Hamano wrote:

> Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> writes:
> 
> > Max Kirillov <max@max630.net> writes:
> >
> >> Tilda-based path may confise some users. First, tilda is not known
> >> for Window users, second, it may point to unexpected location
> >> depending on various environment setup.
> >>
> >> Expand the path to "nativename", so that ~/.config/git/gitk-tmp
> >> would be "C:\Users\user\.config\git\gitk-tmp", for example.
> >> It should be less cryptic

Thanks, Max, for your contribution!

> > It might be less cryptic, but for those of us whose $HOME is a
> > looooooong path, ~/.config/git/gitk-tmp is much easier to understand
> > than the same path with ~/ expanded, which would push the part of
> > the filename that most matters far to the right hand side of the
> > dialog.

Heh, do you want to know how that must sound to a Windows user? I'm not
saying that I am a hard-core Windows user, but I do know a few, and I
already hear their comments in their own voice in my head...

> > I somehow find this change just robbing Peter to pay Paul.
> 
> Having said that, because a set-up might have HOME or XDG_CONFIG or
> other things misconfigured to point at a place where the end user
> may not be expecting, I tend to think that catering to Paul by
> showing the information closer to the bare metal is much more worthy
> thing to do than keeping Peter happy.  Since this is an error path,
> accuracy trumps convenience.
> 
> So no objection from me (unless somebody else comes up with an
> alternative that would make both camps happy, that is).

To Unix/Linux users, the tilde (or Tilda, I really like that nickname, it
makes it much more human and tolerable) is probably *very* familiar.

As familiar, as it is unfamiliar to Windows users.

So I would actually suggest to make this a conditional on the platform: on
Windows, use the native name, everywhere else, not.

Sound good?
Johannes

  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-28 12:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-28  4:14 [PATCH] gitk: expand $config_file_tmp before reporting to user Max Kirillov
2017-09-28  4:37 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-28  4:47   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-28 12:31     ` Johannes Schindelin [this message]
2017-09-28 22:03       ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-29  4:34       ` Max Kirillov
2017-09-29 20:24   ` Uxío Prego

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