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From: Johan Herland <johan@herland.net>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: David Turner <dturner@twopensource.com>,
	Git mailing list <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Michael Haggerty <mhagger@alum.mit.edu>,
	Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco.com>,
	Philip Oakley <philipoakley@iee.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/6] notes: replace pseudorefs with real refs
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 01:43:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALKQrgfxc83-yjrCWZqC+pyPhbQDgYbrpCDSaBk78YypO=BXOg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqpp3bc2u6.fsf@gitster.dls.corp.google.com>

On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 12:52 AM, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
> Johan Herland <johan@herland.net> writes:
>> However, in any case, notes merges are always per _repo_ and never per
>> _worktree_, so this is all unrelated to the current patch/discussion
>> AFAICS.
>
> Thanks for chiming in, but I actually think you are confused.
>
> "git merge" is always per _repo_ in the sense that the result of a
> merge of a topic to the 'master' is recorded in the 'master' which
> is per-repo.  In the multi-worktree world order, that does not
> change.  What changes is that you could have different worktrees
> that check out different branches.  Worktree A may have 'master'
> checked out and do the merge there to update the tip of 'master'.
> But while worktree A is doing that, worktree B may have 'next'
> checked out and do an unrelated merge there.  Once worktree A leaves
> 'master' by checking out another branch, worktree B is free to check
> out 'master' and do further merges there.  Merging into 'master' is
> per _repo_, but the act of merging is per worktree.

Agreed thus far.

> I think merges of refs/notes/commits and refs/notes/someotherthing
> works exactly the same way.  In worktree A, you may decide to merge
> a notes tree refs/notes/commits with somebody else's.

Here is where we start to differ. I would say that starting a notes
merge is completely unrelated to your worktree. Consider this:

When you start a "regular" (non-notes) merge in worktree A, that merge
will "occupy" worktree A for the purpose of completing the merge, e.g.
conflicting files will be checked out inside worktree A, and it is
obvious that you cannot do other/unrelated things in worktree A until
you have resolved the conflicts and completed the merge. As such, a
regular merge is inextricably bound to a specific worktree.

This is not the case for notes merges. If I start a notes merge from
worktree A, there is no "occupation" of that worktree. Before the
notes merge is resolved, I can do whatever I want in worktree A
(including checking out a different branch, performing a rebase,
whatever...). Instead, the notes merge creates its own worktree (that
is "occupied" until the notes merge is completed), which is completely
unrelated to worktree A.

>  It may
> conflict and you may need to "lock" refs/notes/commits from being
> touched by other worktrees while resolving that, but that does not
> mean other worktrees cannot do a merge of refs/notes/someotherthing
> at all.

In principle, I agree that an ongoing notes-merge into
refs/notes/someotherthing should be able to coexist with an ongoing
notes-merge into refs/notes/commits. However, it does not make sense
to bind those notes-merges to a specific worktree.

Let's say I have two worktrees, A and B, and from worktree A, I have
started a notes-merge into refs/notes/commits. Now:

 - From worktree B I should NOT be able to start another notes-merge
into refs/notes/commits.

 - From worktree B I SHOULD be able to start another notes-merge into
refs/notes/someotherthing

But this doesn't really have anything to do with worktree B. I can
just as easily say:

 - From worktree A I should NOT be able to start another notes-merge
into refs/notes/commits.

 - From worktree A I SHOULD be able to start another notes-merge into
refs/notes/someotherthing

My conclusion is therefore that binding a notes merge to a specific
worktree does not make any sense. Preventing simultaneous notes merges
into the same notes ref is something that must be solved per _repo_
(and not per worktree), and since the worktree plays no part in the
resolution/completion of the notes merge, it makes more sense to place
all the notes-merge-related refs/files inside the _repo_, and not
inside the worktree.

Now, we do not yet support simultaneous notes merges at all, but my
follow-on point is that the addition of such support is wholly
independent of the multi-worktree support. For now, it would make more
sense to only allow a single notes-merge across all worktrees. I.e.
when starting a notes-merge from ANY worktree, it should simply fail
if there is an existing unresolved notes merge (no matter which
worktree started that unresolved notes merge).

>  The temporary area you use for merging notes, i.e. the
> working tree as far as notes merge is concerned, is private to
> worktree A and does not need to be seen by other worktrees.

Disagree. The private area used to resolve notes merges should be per
_repo_, not per worktree. That is IMHO the only sane way to (in the
future) prevent simultaneous notes merges going into the same notes
ref.

> So while you are working on merging and resolving, that intermediate
> state is *NOT* per _repo_ at all.  It is at most per worktree (Yes
> you could extend and have one notes_merge_ref per each refs/notes/*
> ref to make it even finer grained to allow more than one notes merge
> going on inside a single worktree, but I do not think it is worth
> it).

As stated above, my position is that while you are resolving a notes
merge, the worktree from which you started that notes merge is
completely irrelevant. In fact, you can easily do a notes merge in a
_bare_ repo...

...Johan

-- 
Johan Herland, <johan@herland.net>
www.herland.net

  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-28 23:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-28 18:12 [PATCH v3 0/6] pseudorefs David Turner
2015-07-28 18:12 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] refs: Introduce pseudoref and per-worktree ref concepts David Turner
2015-07-28 18:12 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] notes: replace pseudorefs with real refs David Turner
2015-07-28 19:00   ` Junio C Hamano
2015-07-28 19:24     ` David Turner
2015-07-28 19:44     ` Junio C Hamano
2015-07-28 21:23       ` [PATCH] notes: handle multiple worktrees David Turner
2015-07-28 21:42         ` David Turner
2015-07-28 22:00           ` Junio C Hamano
2015-07-28 22:12         ` Junio C Hamano
2015-07-28 22:50           ` Johan Herland
2015-08-03 13:27             ` Duy Nguyen
2015-07-28 22:17         ` Eric Sunshine
2015-07-28 22:38       ` [PATCH v3 2/6] notes: replace pseudorefs with real refs Johan Herland
2015-07-28 22:52         ` Junio C Hamano
2015-07-28 23:43           ` Johan Herland [this message]
2015-07-29  0:33             ` Junio C Hamano
2015-07-29  0:56               ` Michael Haggerty
2015-07-29  1:23                 ` Jacob Keller
2015-07-29  1:24                 ` Johan Herland
2015-07-29  2:25                   ` Junio C Hamano
2015-07-29  2:00                 ` Junio C Hamano
2015-07-29  2:53                   ` Johan Herland
2015-07-29  5:00                     ` Junio C Hamano
2015-07-29  2:34               ` Johan Herland
2015-07-29  5:01                 ` Junio C Hamano
2015-07-29 13:19                   ` Johan Herland
2015-07-29 16:37                     ` Junio C Hamano
2015-07-29 16:58                       ` Junio C Hamano
2015-07-30  6:05                       ` Johan Herland
2015-07-30 16:24                         ` Junio C Hamano
2015-07-29  2:17             ` Junio C Hamano
2015-07-29  2:37               ` Johan Herland
2015-07-28 18:12 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] refs: add ref_type function David Turner
2015-07-29  6:32   ` Eric Sunshine
2015-07-28 18:12 ` [PATCH v3 4/6] pseudorefs: create and use pseudoref update and delete functions David Turner
2015-07-29  6:38   ` Eric Sunshine
2015-07-28 18:12 ` [PATCH v3 5/6] rebase: use update_ref David Turner
2015-07-28 18:12 ` [PATCH v3 6/6] sequencer: replace write_cherry_pick_head with update_ref David Turner
2015-07-28 19:01 ` [PATCH v3 0/6] pseudorefs Junio C Hamano
2015-07-28 19:07   ` David Turner

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