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From: David Aguilar <davvid@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
	Matthieu Moy <Matthieu.Moy@grenoble-inp.fr>,
	Jed Brown <jed@59a2.org>,
	Piotr Krukowiecki <piotr.krukowiecki@gmail.com>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: git grep: search whole tree by default?
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 19:23:49 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJDDKr5G_dpk5s6EMBF=iU+yHkr7TKYRUBJAxBQY9Y9jy6FmCA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqd2muo3sz.fsf@gitster.dls.corp.google.com>

On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
> Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:
>
>> That would also provide people who do not like the change of default an
>> escape hatch to keep the current behavior. And I do not think scripted
>> use will be inconvenienced; they will already have to use "." or ":/" to
>> be explicit (if they care) since the behavior is changing.
>
> There is a big difference between "scripted use will have an escape
> hatch" and "scripted use will not be inconvenienced".  We *know*
> scripts will be inconvenienced with or without such a configuration
> variable, as they *have* to be updated if they rely on the current
> behaviour of "git grep" that limits its search to the current
> directory when fed no pathspec (and if their users want to keep the
> current behaviour of such scripts).  Anything short of a warning (or
> even erroring out) that is designed to annoy the users during the
> transition period will help ease the pain of transition of scripts.
>
> An annoying warning still can only *ease*, but cannot eliminate, the
> pain of transition. The scripts need to be updated to adjust to the
> new behaviour; there is no getting around to it.
>
> Even if we ignore the "helping your colleague at her terminal", cf.
>
>     http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/133570/focus=133683
>
> issue for now, adding a new configuration variable from day one
> makes the transition of scripts somewhat worse, I am afraid.  Doing
> so robs us a way to add such an annoying warning to help people
> foresee problems in their existing scripts before the default
> changes (the configuration presumably will disable the "this command
> line will behave differently after the default changes" warning).
>
> As I said, I think we can train people without an annoying warning,
> as hits outside their current directory will serve as an annoyance
> already, and people who set such a configuration in their repository
> (or $HOME/.gitconfig), get used to the chosen behaviour too much,
> and get surprised when they get to use a vanilla intallation of Git
> (either helping colleague or setting up a new work environment) have
> only themselves to blame, so it may not be too big a deal.
>
> But I do not think the same reasoning extends to scripted uses X-<.

The set of people that script "git grep" may in fact be pretty low /
almost non-existent so it may be a non-issue, but here's my one data
point:

For git-cola, this change in behavior would not make any difference.
It already jumps to the top-level during startup so its grep feature
is unaffected.

It'd be good to hear from other script writers but that's my $.02.
-- 
David

  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-25  2:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-23  8:25 git grep: search whole tree by default? Piotr Krukowiecki
2013-10-23 16:21 ` Matthieu Moy
2013-10-23 17:23   ` Junio C Hamano
2013-10-23 18:20     ` Jed Brown
2013-10-23 18:52       ` Junio C Hamano
2013-10-23 19:24         ` Jed Brown
2013-10-23 19:31           ` Junio C Hamano
2013-10-24  2:15             ` David Aguilar
2013-10-23 20:43           ` Matthieu Moy
2013-10-24  2:27             ` Jeff King
2013-10-24 19:40               ` Junio C Hamano
2013-10-25  2:23                 ` David Aguilar [this message]
2013-10-25  4:37                 ` Jeff King
2013-10-25  4:52                   ` Duy Nguyen

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