From: Stefan Beller <sbeller@google.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: Marc Branchaud <marcnarc@xiplink.com>,
"git@vger.kernel.org" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
Michael Haggerty <mhagger@alum.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Make diff plumbing commands respect the indentHeuristic.
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 15:13:36 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGZ79kZsddmxmMFbD7NQXw=j56WKgaFaz90_zC4Lm++9Lj887w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170428220450.olqitnuwhrxzg3pv@sigill.intra.peff.net>
On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Jeff King <peff@peff.net> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 10:34:15AM -0700, Stefan Beller wrote:
>
>> > So instead I chose to make the indentHeuristic option part of diff's basic
>> > configuration, and in each of the diff plumbing commands I moved the call to
>> > git_config() before the call to init_revisions().
>> [...]
>>
>> The feature was included in v2.11 (released 2016-11-29) and we got no
>> negative feedback. Quite the opposite, all feedback we got, was positive.
>> This could be explained by having the feature as an experimental feature
>> and users who would be broken by it, did not test it yet or did not speak up.
>
> Yeah, if the point you're trying to make is "nobody will be mad if this
> is turned on by default", I don't think shipping it as a config option
> is very conclusive.
>
> I think a more interesting argument is: we turned on renames by default
> a few versions ago, which changes the diff in a much bigger way, and
> nobody complained.
>
> As a side note, I do happen to know of one program that depends
> heavily on diffs remaining stable. Imagine you have a Git hosting site
> which lets people comment on lines of diffs. You need some way to
> address the lines of the diff so that the annotations appear in the
> correct position when you regenerate the diff later.
>
> One way to do it is to just position the comment at the n'th line of
> the diff. Which obviously breaks if the diff changes. IMHO that is a
> bug in that program, which should be fixed to use the line numbers
> from the original blob (which is still not foolproof, because a
> different diff algorithm may move a change such that the line isn't
> even part of the diff anymore).
>
> I'm not worried about this particular program, as I happen to know it
> has already been fixed. But it's possible others have made a similar
> mistake.
Thanks for this enlightenment. :)
>> So I'd propose to turn it on by default and anyone negatively impacted by that
>> could then use the config to turn it off for themselves (including plumbing).
>>
>> Something like this, maybe?
>
> Yeah, as long as this is on top of Marc's patches, I think it is the
> natural conclusion that we had planned.
That is what I was trying to hint at with the commit message given.
> I don't know if we would want to be extra paranoid about patch-ids.
> There is no helping:
>
> git rev-list HEAD | git diff-tree --stdin -p | git patch-id --stable
>
> because diff-tree doesn't know that it's trying for "--stable" output.
> But the diffs we compute internally for patch-id could disable the
> heuristics. I'm not sure if those matter, though. AFAIK those are used
> only for internal comparisons within a single program. I.e., we never
> compare them against input from the user, nor do we output them to the
> user. So they'll change, but I don't think anybody would care.
>
> -Peff
Well, I think as long as we have a reasonable easy way to undo
the default (hence keeping the option), we can proceed with caution
here, too.
Thanks,
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-04-28 22:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-04-25 17:21 BUG: diff-{index,files,tree} (and git-gui) do not respect the diff.indentHeuristic config setting Marc Branchaud
2017-04-25 21:27 ` Jeff King
2017-04-27 20:50 ` [PATCH 0/2] Make diff plumbing commands respect the indentHeuristic Marc Branchaud
2017-04-27 20:50 ` [PATCH 1/2] Make the indent heuristic part of diff's basic configuration Marc Branchaud
2017-04-28 7:59 ` Jeff King
2017-04-27 20:50 ` [PATCH 2/2] Have the diff-* builtins configure diff before initializing revisions Marc Branchaud
2017-04-28 8:06 ` Jeff King
2017-05-01 1:01 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-05-01 5:17 ` Jeff King
2017-05-01 5:29 ` Jeff King
2017-04-28 7:56 ` [PATCH 0/2] Make diff plumbing commands respect the indentHeuristic Jeff King
2017-04-28 17:34 ` Stefan Beller
2017-04-28 22:04 ` Jeff King
2017-04-28 22:13 ` Stefan Beller [this message]
2017-05-01 10:34 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-05-09 3:16 ` Jeff King
2017-05-09 4:06 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-05-09 7:58 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-05-09 8:04 ` Jeff King
2017-04-28 22:33 ` [PATCHv2 0/3] " Marc Branchaud
2017-04-28 22:33 ` [PATCHv2 1/3] diff: make the indent heuristic part of diff's basic configuration Marc Branchaud
2017-04-28 22:33 ` [PATCHv2 2/3] diff: have the diff-* builtins configure diff before initializing revisions Marc Branchaud
2017-04-28 22:33 ` [PATCH 3/3] diff: enable indent heuristic by default Marc Branchaud
2017-04-29 12:40 ` [PATCHv2 0/3] Make diff plumbing commands respect the indentHeuristic Jeff King
2017-04-29 13:14 ` Jeff King
2017-05-01 1:11 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-05-01 5:15 ` Jeff King
2017-05-01 23:25 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-05-01 22:13 ` [PATCHv3 0/4] " Marc Branchaud
2017-05-01 22:13 ` [PATCHv3 1/4] diff: make the indent heuristic part of diff's basic configuration Marc Branchaud
2017-05-01 22:13 ` [PATCHv3 2/4] diff: have the diff-* builtins configure diff before initializing revisions Marc Branchaud
2017-05-01 22:13 ` [PATCHv3 3/4] diff: enable indent heuristic by default Marc Branchaud
2017-05-01 22:20 ` Jeff King
2017-05-01 22:13 ` [PATCHv3 4/4] add--interactive: drop diff.indentHeuristic handling Marc Branchaud
2017-05-01 22:18 ` [PATCHv3 0/4] Make diff plumbing commands respect the indentHeuristic Stefan Beller
2017-04-29 13:15 ` [PATCH 4/3] add--interactive: drop diff.indentHeuristic handling Jeff King
2017-04-30 3:26 ` [PATCHv2 0/3] Make diff plumbing commands respect the indentHeuristic Michael Haggerty
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