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From: Stefan Beller <sbeller@google.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: Marc Branchaud <marcnarc@xiplink.com>,
	"git@vger.kernel.org" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Michael Haggerty <mhagger@alum.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Make diff plumbing commands respect the indentHeuristic.
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 15:13:36 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGZ79kZsddmxmMFbD7NQXw=j56WKgaFaz90_zC4Lm++9Lj887w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170428220450.olqitnuwhrxzg3pv@sigill.intra.peff.net>

On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Jeff King <peff@peff.net> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 10:34:15AM -0700, Stefan Beller wrote:
>
>> > So instead I chose to make the indentHeuristic option part of diff's basic
>> > configuration, and in each of the diff plumbing commands I moved the call to
>> > git_config() before the call to init_revisions().
>> [...]
>>
>> The feature was included in v2.11 (released 2016-11-29) and we got no
>> negative feedback. Quite the opposite, all feedback we got, was positive.
>> This could be explained by having the feature as an experimental feature
>> and users who would be broken by it, did not test it yet or did not speak up.
>
> Yeah, if the point you're trying to make is "nobody will be mad if this
> is turned on by default", I don't think shipping it as a config option
> is very conclusive.
>
> I think a more interesting argument is: we turned on renames by default
> a few versions ago, which changes the diff in a much bigger way, and
> nobody complained.
>
>   As a side note, I do happen to know of one program that depends
>   heavily on diffs remaining stable. Imagine you have a Git hosting site
>   which lets people comment on lines of diffs. You need some way to
>   address the lines of the diff so that the annotations appear in the
>   correct position when you regenerate the diff later.
>
>   One way to do it is to just position the comment at the n'th line of
>   the diff. Which obviously breaks if the diff changes. IMHO that is a
>   bug in that program, which should be fixed to use the line numbers
>   from the original blob (which is still not foolproof, because a
>   different diff algorithm may move a change such that the line isn't
>   even part of the diff anymore).
>
>   I'm not worried about this particular program, as I happen to know it
>   has already been fixed. But it's possible others have made a similar
>   mistake.

Thanks for this enlightenment. :)

>> So I'd propose to turn it on by default and anyone negatively impacted by that
>> could then use the config to turn it off for themselves (including plumbing).
>>
>> Something like this, maybe?
>
> Yeah, as long as this is on top of Marc's patches, I think it is the
> natural conclusion that we had planned.

That is what I was trying to hint at with the commit message given.

> I don't know if we would want to be extra paranoid about patch-ids.
> There is no helping:
>
>   git rev-list HEAD | git diff-tree --stdin -p | git patch-id --stable
>
> because diff-tree doesn't know that it's trying for "--stable" output.
> But the diffs we compute internally for patch-id could disable the
> heuristics. I'm not sure if those matter, though. AFAIK those are used
> only for internal comparisons within a single program. I.e., we never
> compare them against input from the user, nor do we output them to the
> user. So they'll change, but I don't think anybody would care.
>
> -Peff

Well, I think as long as we have a reasonable easy way to undo
the default (hence keeping the option), we can proceed with caution
here, too.

Thanks,
Stefan

  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-28 22:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-25 17:21 BUG: diff-{index,files,tree} (and git-gui) do not respect the diff.indentHeuristic config setting Marc Branchaud
2017-04-25 21:27 ` Jeff King
2017-04-27 20:50 ` [PATCH 0/2] Make diff plumbing commands respect the indentHeuristic Marc Branchaud
2017-04-27 20:50   ` [PATCH 1/2] Make the indent heuristic part of diff's basic configuration Marc Branchaud
2017-04-28  7:59     ` Jeff King
2017-04-27 20:50   ` [PATCH 2/2] Have the diff-* builtins configure diff before initializing revisions Marc Branchaud
2017-04-28  8:06     ` Jeff King
2017-05-01  1:01       ` Junio C Hamano
2017-05-01  5:17         ` Jeff King
2017-05-01  5:29           ` Jeff King
2017-04-28  7:56   ` [PATCH 0/2] Make diff plumbing commands respect the indentHeuristic Jeff King
2017-04-28 17:34   ` Stefan Beller
2017-04-28 22:04     ` Jeff King
2017-04-28 22:13       ` Stefan Beller [this message]
2017-05-01 10:34       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-05-09  3:16         ` Jeff King
2017-05-09  4:06           ` Junio C Hamano
2017-05-09  7:58           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-05-09  8:04             ` Jeff King
2017-04-28 22:33   ` [PATCHv2 0/3] " Marc Branchaud
2017-04-28 22:33     ` [PATCHv2 1/3] diff: make the indent heuristic part of diff's basic configuration Marc Branchaud
2017-04-28 22:33     ` [PATCHv2 2/3] diff: have the diff-* builtins configure diff before initializing revisions Marc Branchaud
2017-04-28 22:33     ` [PATCH 3/3] diff: enable indent heuristic by default Marc Branchaud
2017-04-29 12:40     ` [PATCHv2 0/3] Make diff plumbing commands respect the indentHeuristic Jeff King
2017-04-29 13:14       ` Jeff King
2017-05-01  1:11         ` Junio C Hamano
2017-05-01  5:15           ` Jeff King
2017-05-01 23:25             ` Junio C Hamano
2017-05-01 22:13         ` [PATCHv3 0/4] " Marc Branchaud
2017-05-01 22:13           ` [PATCHv3 1/4] diff: make the indent heuristic part of diff's basic configuration Marc Branchaud
2017-05-01 22:13           ` [PATCHv3 2/4] diff: have the diff-* builtins configure diff before initializing revisions Marc Branchaud
2017-05-01 22:13           ` [PATCHv3 3/4] diff: enable indent heuristic by default Marc Branchaud
2017-05-01 22:20             ` Jeff King
2017-05-01 22:13           ` [PATCHv3 4/4] add--interactive: drop diff.indentHeuristic handling Marc Branchaud
2017-05-01 22:18           ` [PATCHv3 0/4] Make diff plumbing commands respect the indentHeuristic Stefan Beller
2017-04-29 13:15       ` [PATCH 4/3] add--interactive: drop diff.indentHeuristic handling Jeff King
2017-04-30  3:26       ` [PATCHv2 0/3] Make diff plumbing commands respect the indentHeuristic Michael Haggerty

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