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From: Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com>
To: Ben Peart <peartben@gmail.com>
Cc: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	"Johannes Schindelin" <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
	git <git@vger.kernel.org>, "Ben Peart" <benpeart@microsoft.com>,
	"Alex Vandiver" <alexmv@dropbox.com>,
	"Christian Couder" <christian.couder@gmail.com>,
	"David Turner" <dturner@twopensource.com>
Subject: Re: Some rough edges of core.fsmonitor
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 17:15:44 +0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACsJy8DH2_gBqj3xs4Cr6kOAUsQ5hn88weMeXR8GtYCNvYgLDQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56b8d8a3-9483-330d-64a4-ec0295b254ac@gmail.com>

On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 8:21 AM, Ben Peart <peartben@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 1/28/2018 5:28 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 9:44 PM, Johannes Schindelin
>> <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On Sat, 27 Jan 2018, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just got around to testing this since it landed, for context some
>>>> previous poking of mine in [1].
>>>>
>>>> Issues / stuff I've noticed:
>>>>
>>>> 1) We end up invalidating the untracked cache because stuff in .git/
>>>> changed. For example:
>>>>
>>>>      01:09:24.975524 fsmonitor.c:173         fsmonitor process
>>>> '.git/hooks/fsmonitor-watchman' returned success
>>>>      01:09:24.975548 fsmonitor.c:138         fsmonitor_refresh_callback
>>>> '.git'
>>>>      01:09:24.975556 fsmonitor.c:138         fsmonitor_refresh_callback
>>>> '.git/config'
>>>>      01:09:24.975568 fsmonitor.c:138         fsmonitor_refresh_callback
>>>> '.git/index'
>>>>      01:09:25.122726 fsmonitor.c:91          write fsmonitor extension
>>>> successful
>>>>
>>>> Am I missing something or should we do something like:
>>>>
>>>>      diff --git a/fsmonitor.c b/fsmonitor.c
>>>>      index 0af7c4edba..5067b89bda 100644
>>>>      --- a/fsmonitor.c
>>>>      +++ b/fsmonitor.c
>>>>      @@ -118,7 +118,12 @@ static int query_fsmonitor(int version,
>>>> uint64_t last_update, struct strbuf *que
>>>>
>>>>       static void fsmonitor_refresh_callback(struct index_state *istate,
>>>> const char *name)
>>>>       {
>>>>      -       int pos = index_name_pos(istate, name, strlen(name));
>>>>      +       int pos;
>>>>      +
>>>>      +       if (!strcmp(name, ".git") || starts_with(name, ".git/"))
>>>>      +               return;
>>>>      +
>>>>      +       pos = index_name_pos(istate, name, strlen(name));
>>>
>>>
>>> I would much rather have the fsmonitor hook already exclude those.
>>
>>
>> As documented the fsmonitor-watchman hook we ship doesn't work as
>> described in githooks(5), unless "files in the working directory" is
>> taken to include .git/, but I haven't seen that ever used.
>>
>> On the other hand relying on arbitrary user-provided hooks to do the
>> right thing at the cost of silent performance degradation is bad. If
>> we're going to expect the hook to remove these we should probably
>> warn/die here if it does send us .git/* files.
>>
>
> I'm not sure how often something is modified in the git directory when
> nothing was modified in the working directory but this seems like a nice
> optimization.
>
> We can't just blindly ignore changes under ".git" as the git directory may
> have been moved somewhere else.  Instead we'd need to use get_git_dir().

In theory. But we do blindly ignore changes under ".git" in some
cases, see treat_path() in dir.c for example.

> Rather than assuming the hook will optimize for this particular case, I
> think a better solution would be to update untracked_cache_invalidate_path()
> so that it doesn't invalidate the untracked cache and mark the index as
> dirty when it was asked to invalidate a path under GIT_DIR.  I can't think
> of a case when that would be the desired behavior.

You see, my only problem with this is tying the check with $GIT_DIR,
which may involve normalizing the path and all that stuff because the
current code base is not prepared to deal with that. Simply ignoring
anything in ".git" may work too. Not pretty but it's more in line with
what we have. Though I'm still not sure how it interacts with ".git"
from submodules which is why I still have not sent a patch to update
untracked_cache_invalidate_path() because it does make sense to fix it
in there.

> Somewhat off topic but related to the overall performance discussion: I've
> also thought the untracked cache shouldn't mark the index as dirty except in
> the case where the extension is being added or removed.  We've observed that
> it causes unnecessary index writes that actually slows down overall
> performance.
>
> Since it is a cache, it does not require the index to be written out for
> correctness, it can simply update the cache again the next time it is
> needed. This is typically faster than the cost of the index write so makes
> things faster overall.  I adopted this same model with the fsmonitor
> extension.

If you turn on split index, the write cost should be much much less
(but I think read cost increases a bit due to merging the two indexes
in core; I noticed this but haven't really dug down). You basically
pay writing modified index entries and extensions.

But yeah not writing is possible. The index's dirty flag can show that
only untracked cache extension is dirty, then it's a judgement call
whether to write it down or drop it. You still need to occasionally
write it down though. Dirty directories will fall back to slow path.
If you don't write it down, the set of dirty paths keeps increasing
and will start to slow git-status down. I don't know at what point we
should write it down though if you choose not to go the split-index
route.
-- 
Duy

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-31 10:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-27  0:28 Some rough edges of core.fsmonitor Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-01-27  1:36 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-01-27  1:39   ` [PATCH] trace: measure where the time is spent in the index-heavy operations Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-01-27 11:58     ` Thomas Gummerer
2018-01-27 12:27       ` [PATCH v2] " Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-01-27 11:43   ` Some rough edges of core.fsmonitor Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-01-27 12:39     ` Duy Nguyen
2018-01-27 13:09       ` Duy Nguyen
2018-01-27 19:01         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-01-30 22:41           ` Ben Peart
2018-01-29  9:40     ` Duy Nguyen
2018-01-29 23:16       ` Ben Peart
2018-02-01 10:40         ` Duy Nguyen
2018-01-28 20:44 ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-01-28 22:28   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-01-30  1:21     ` Ben Peart
2018-01-31 10:15       ` Duy Nguyen [this message]
2018-02-04  9:38         ` [PATCH] dir.c: ignore paths containing .git when invalidating untracked cache Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-02-05 17:44           ` Ben Peart
2018-02-06 12:02             ` Duy Nguyen
2018-02-07  9:21           ` [PATCH v2] " Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-02-07  9:21             ` Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-02-07 16:59               ` Ben Peart
2018-02-13 10:00                 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-02-13 17:57                   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-02-14  1:24                     ` Duy Nguyen
2018-02-14  8:00                       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-01-30 22:57 ` Some rough edges of core.fsmonitor Ben Peart
2018-01-30 23:16   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-01-31 16:12     ` Ben Peart

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