From: Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
"Git Mailing List" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
"Stefan Beller" <sbeller@google.com>,
"Thomas Gummerer" <t.gummerer@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 6/7] checkout: split into switch-branch and checkout-files
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 16:30:34 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACsJy8Bzs=FYKrR6h1cqVH32eEt2t8rUMtE2yFNvt+W55u=sDA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqftvlspqn.fsf@gitster-ct.c.googlers.com>
On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 7:03 AM Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy <pclouds@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > The good old "git checkout" command is still here and will be until
> > all (or most of users) are sick of it.
>
> Two comments on the goal (the implementation looked reasonable
> assuming the reader agrees with the gaol).
>
> At least to me, the verb "switch" needs two things to switch
> between, i.e. "switch A and B", unless it is "switch to X".
> Either "switch-to-branch" or simply "switch-to", perhaps?
>
> As I already hinted in my response to Stefan (?) about
> checkout-from-tree vs checkout-from-index, a command with multiple
> modes of operation is not confusing to people with the right mental
> model, and I suspect that having two separate commands for "checking
> out a branch" and "checking out paths" that is done by this step
> would help users to form the right mental model.
Since the other one is already "checkout-files", maybe this one could
just be "checkout-branch".
> So I tend to think
> these two are "training wheels", and suspect that once they got it,
> nobody will become "sick of" the single "checkout" command that can
> be used to do either. It's just the matter of being aware what can
> be done (which requires the right mental model) and how to tell Git
> what the user wants it do (two separate commands, operating mode
> option, or just the implied command line syntax---once the user
> knows what s/he is doing, these do not make that much a difference).
I would hope this becomes better defaults and being used 90% of time.
Even though I know "git checkout" quite well, it still bites me from
time to time. Having the right mental model is one thing. Having to
think a bit every time to write "git checkout" with the right syntax,
and whether you need "--" (that ambiguation problem can still bite you
from time to time), is frankly something I'd rather avoid.
--
Duy
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-11-28 15:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-11-10 13:35 [PATCH/RFC] checkout: print something when checking out paths Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-11-12 6:21 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-11-12 16:27 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-11-12 20:15 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-11-19 13:08 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-19 15:19 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-11-20 2:53 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-11-20 17:45 ` [RFC] Introduce two new commands, switch-branch and restore-paths Duy Nguyen
2018-11-25 22:20 ` Thomas Gummerer
2018-11-26 3:03 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-11-26 15:37 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-11-26 16:00 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-26 16:08 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-11-26 23:10 ` Stefan Beller
2018-11-27 0:34 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-11-27 16:52 ` [PATCH/RFC v2 0/7] Introduce new commands switch-branch and checkout-files Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-11-27 16:52 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] parse-options: allow parse_options_concat(NULL, options) Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-11-27 19:43 ` Stefan Beller
2018-11-28 15:22 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-11-28 4:47 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-11-27 16:52 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] checkout: make "opts" in cmd_checkout() a pointer Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-11-27 16:52 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] checkout: move 'confict_style' to checkout_opts Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-11-27 19:50 ` Stefan Beller
2018-11-27 16:52 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] checkout: move dwim_new_local_branch " Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-11-27 19:52 ` Stefan Beller
2018-11-27 16:52 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] checkout: split options[] array in three pieces Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-11-29 6:29 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-11-27 16:52 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] checkout: split into switch-branch and checkout-files Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-11-28 6:03 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-11-28 15:30 ` Duy Nguyen [this message]
2018-11-28 19:08 ` Stefan Beller
2018-11-28 19:18 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-11-29 5:55 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-11-28 23:22 ` Stefan Xenos
2018-11-28 23:26 ` Stefan Xenos
2018-11-28 23:37 ` Stefan Xenos
2018-11-29 5:59 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-11-29 15:36 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-11-29 15:46 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-11-29 18:14 ` Stefan Beller
2018-11-29 18:30 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-11-29 19:29 ` Stefan Xenos
2018-11-27 16:52 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] Suggest other commands instead of "git checkout" Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-11-28 6:04 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-11-28 15:33 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-11-29 6:05 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-11-28 20:01 ` [PATCH/RFC v2 0/7] Introduce new commands switch-branch and checkout-files Duy Nguyen
2018-11-28 20:09 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-11-28 20:30 ` Stefan Beller
2018-11-29 15:33 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-12-03 21:42 ` Stefan Beller
2018-11-30 1:47 ` Junio C Hamano
[not found] ` <CAPL8Ziuj7Ffmdvz6NZWSJ+vzAtxFQhO1cfY2wmXm16J_8sY5fw@mail.gmail.com>
2018-11-28 22:53 ` Stefan Xenos
2018-11-29 6:14 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-11-29 21:58 ` [PATCH/RFC v3 00/14] Introduce new commands switch-branch and restore-files Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-11-29 21:58 ` [PATCH v3 01/14] git-checkout.txt: fix one syntax line Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-11-29 21:58 ` [PATCH v3 02/14] git-checkout.txt: split detached head section out Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-11-29 21:58 ` [PATCH v3 03/14] checkout: factor out some code in parse_branchname_arg() Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-11-29 21:58 ` [PATCH v3 04/14] checkout: make "opts" in cmd_checkout() a pointer Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-11-29 21:58 ` [PATCH v3 05/14] checkout: move 'confict_style' and 'dwim_..' to checkout_opts Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-11-29 21:58 ` [PATCH v3 06/14] checkout: split options[] array in three pieces Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-11-29 21:58 ` [PATCH v3 07/14] checkout: split into switch-branch and restore-files Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-12-04 0:45 ` Elijah Newren
2018-12-04 3:33 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-12-04 16:21 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-12-04 17:43 ` Elijah Newren
2018-12-04 18:17 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-12-05 2:25 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-12-05 4:45 ` Elijah Newren
2018-12-05 6:56 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-12-05 2:14 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-12-05 4:22 ` Elijah Newren
2018-11-29 21:58 ` [PATCH v3 08/14] switch-branch: better names for -b and -B Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-11-29 21:58 ` [PATCH v3 09/14] switch-branch: stop accepting pathspec Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-11-29 21:58 ` [PATCH v3 10/14] switch-branch: reject "do nothing" case Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-11-29 21:58 ` [PATCH v3 11/14] switch-branch: only allow explicit detached HEAD Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2019-03-10 19:32 ` Eckhard Maaß
2019-03-11 14:27 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-11-29 21:58 ` [PATCH v3 12/14] restore-files: take tree-ish from --from option instead Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-11-29 21:58 ` [PATCH v3 13/14] restore-files: make pathspec mandatory Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-11-29 21:58 ` [PATCH v3 14/14] doc: promote "git switch-branch" and "git restore-files" Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-11-29 23:05 ` [PATCH/RFC v3 00/14] Introduce new commands switch-branch and restore-files Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-29 23:18 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-29 23:37 ` Dan Fabulich
2018-11-30 0:16 ` Dan Fabulich
2018-11-30 6:49 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-11-30 5:37 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-11-30 6:47 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-11-30 11:29 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-11-30 12:10 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-11-30 2:16 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-11-30 5:41 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-11-30 6:46 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-12-02 18:58 ` Thomas Gummerer
2018-12-02 19:46 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-12-04 1:28 ` Elijah Newren
2018-12-04 16:27 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-12-04 17:45 ` Elijah Newren
2018-12-04 18:22 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-12-04 18:31 ` Elijah Newren
2018-12-04 18:39 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-12-04 21:18 ` Eric Sunshine
2018-11-13 18:28 ` [PATCH v2] checkout: print something when checking out paths Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-11-14 10:12 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-11-14 15:31 ` Duy Nguyen
2019-01-28 21:58 ` Junio C Hamano
2019-01-29 1:26 ` Duy Nguyen
2019-02-06 2:51 ` [PATCH 0/2] nd/checkout-noisy updates Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2019-02-06 2:51 ` [PATCH 1/2] checkout: update count-checkouts messages Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2019-02-06 2:51 ` [PATCH 2/2] checkout: count and print -m paths separately Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
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