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From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
	"brian m . carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>,
	Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>,
	Stefan Beller <sbeller@google.com>,
	Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 09/12] get_short_oid / peel_onion: ^{tree} should be tree, not treeish
Date: Fri, 04 May 2018 10:42:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lgczyfq6.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqvac4tb64.fsf@gitster-ct.c.googlers.com>


On Fri, May 04 2018, Junio C Hamano wrote:

> Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> The reason I'm doing this is because I found it confusing that I can't
>> do:
>>
>>     for t in tag commit tree blob; do ./git --exec-path=$PWD rev-parse 7452^{$t}; done
>>
>> And get, respectively, only the SHAs that match the respective type, but
>> currently (with released git) you can do:
>>
>>     for t in tag commit committish treeish tree blob; do git -c core.disambiguate=$t rev-parse 7452; done
>
> Exactly.  The former asks "I (think I) know 7452 can be used to name
> an object of type $t, with peeling if necessary--give me the underlying
> object of type $t".

Right, and I'm with you so far, this makes sense to me for all existing
uses of the peel syntax, otherwise v2.17.0^{tree} wouldn't be the same
as rev-parse v2.17.0^{tree}^{tree}...

> In short, the fact that you can write "$X^{$t}"
> says that $X is a $t-ish (otherwise $X cannot be used as a stand-in
> for an object of type $t) and that you fully expect that $X can merely
> be of type $t-ish and not exactly $t (otherwise you wouldn't be
> making sure to coerce $X into $t with ^{$t} notation).
>
> In *THAT* context, disambiguation help that lists objects whose name
> begins with "7452" you gave, hoping that it is a unique enough
> prefix when it wasn't in reality, *MUST* give $t-ish; restricting it
> to $t makes the help mostly useless.
>
>> 1) Am I missing some subtlety or am I correct that there was no way to
>> get git to return more than one SHA-1 for ^{commit} or ^{tree} before
>> this disambiguation feature was added?
>
> There is no such feature either before or after the disambiguation
> help.  I am not saying there shouldn't exist such a feature.  I am
> saying that breaking the existing feature and making it useless is
> not the way to add such a feature.

I still don't get how what you're proposing is going to be consistent,
but let's fully enumerate the output of 7452 with my patch to take that
case-by-case[1]:

    ^{tag}:
    7452b4b5786778d5d87f5c90a94fab8936502e20
    ^{commit}:
    hint:   74521eee4c commit 2007-12-01 - git-gui: install-sh from automake does not like -m755
    hint:   745224e04a commit 2014-06-18 - refs.c: SSE2 optimizations for check_refname_component
    ^{tree}:
    hint:   7452336aa3 tree
    hint:   74524f384d tree
    hint:   7452813bcd tree
    hint:   7452b1a701 tree
    hint:   7452b73c42 tree
    hint:   7452ca1557 tree
    ^{blob}:
    hint:   7452001351 blob
    hint:   745254665d blob
    hint:   7452a572c1 blob
    hint:   7452b9fd21 blob
    hint:   7452db13c8 blob
    hint:   7452fce0da blob

And[2]:

    core.disambiguate=tag:
    [same as ^{tag]
    core.disambiguate=commit:
    [same as ^{commit}]
    core.disambiguate=committish:
    hint:   7452b4b578 tag v2.1.0
    hint:   74521eee4c commit 2007-12-01 - git-gui: install-sh from automake does not like -m755
    hint:   745224e04a commit 2014-06-18 - refs.c: SSE2 optimizations for check_refname_component
    core.disambiguate=tree:
    [same as ^{tree}]
    core.disambiguate=treeish (same as $sha1:)
    hint:   7452b4b578 tag v2.1.0
    hint:   74521eee4c commit 2007-12-01 - git-gui: install-sh from automake does not like -m755
    hint:   745224e04a commit 2014-06-18 - refs.c: SSE2 optimizations for check_refname_component
    hint:   7452336aa3 tree
    hint:   74524f384d tree
    hint:   7452813bcd tree
    hint:   7452b1a701 tree
    hint:   7452b73c42 tree
    hint:   7452ca1557 tree
    core.disambiguate=blob:
    [same as ^{blob}]

So from my understanding of what you're saying you'd like to list tag,
commits and trees given $sha1^{tree}, because they're all types that can
be used to reach a tree.

I don't think that's very useful, yes it would "break" existing
disambiguations, but this is such an obscure (and purely manual)
use-case than I think that's fine.

Because I think to the extent anyone's going to use this it's because
they know they have e.g. a short blob, commit etc. SHA-1 they're not
going to use it because they have some short $SHA they know is a tree,
and then want all SHA-1s of that *and* random tag & commit objects that
happen to have the same object prefix just because tags and commits can
also point to trees.

How does that make any sense? The entire reason for using the normal
peel syntax is because you e.g. have v2.17.0 and want to get to the
^{tree} or the ^{commit} tht v2.17.0 directly points to. That's entirely
orthogonal to what the disambiguation is doing. There with your proposed
semantics you're peeling 7452 as 7452^{tree} because (IMO) you're
looking for trees, just to get some entirely unrelated commits and tags.

But *leaving that aside*, i.e. I don't see why the use-case would make
sense. What I *don't* get is why, if you think that, you only want to
apply that rule to ^{tree}. I.e. wouldn't it then be consistent to say:

    # a)
    ^{tag}    = tag
    ^{commit} = tag, commit
    ^{tree}   = tag, commit, tree
    ^{blob}   = tag, blob (blobish)

Whereas my patch now does:

    # b)
    ^{tag}    = tag
    ^{commit} = commit
    ^{tree}   = tree
    ^{blob}   = blob

But from what you seem to be proposing (or maybe you just didn't have a
chance to critique the ^{blob} and ^{commit} patches):

    # c)
    ^{tag}    = tag
    ^{commit} = commit
    ^{tree}   = tag, tree, commit
    ^{blob}   = blob

1. for type in tag commit tree blob; do echo "^{$type}:" && ./git --exec-path=$PWD rev-parse 7452^{$type} 2>&1|grep -E -e ^hint -e '^[0-9a-f]{40}$' |grep -v are:; done
2. for cfg in tag commit committish tree treeish blob; do echo "core.disambiguate=$cfg:" && ./git --exec-path=$PWD -c core.disambiguate=$cfg rev-parse 7452 2>&1|grep -E -e ^hint -e '^[0-9a-f]{40}$' |grep -v are:; done

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-04  8:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-30 22:07 [PATCH 0/9] get_short_oid UI improvements Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-04-30 22:07 ` [PATCH 1/9] sha1-name.c: remove stray newline Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-04-30 22:07 ` [PATCH 2/9] sha1-array.h: align function arguments Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-04-30 22:07 ` [PATCH 3/9] sha1-name.c: move around the collect_ambiguous() function Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-04-30 22:07 ` [PATCH 4/9] get_short_oid: sort ambiguous objects by type, then SHA-1 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-01 11:11   ` Derrick Stolee
2018-05-01 11:27     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-01 12:26       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-05-01 12:36         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-01 13:05           ` Derrick Stolee
2018-04-30 22:07 ` [PATCH 5/9] get_short_oid: learn to disambiguate by ^{tag} Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-04-30 22:07 ` [PATCH 6/9] get_short_oid: learn to disambiguate by ^{blob} Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-04-30 22:07 ` [PATCH 7/9] get_short_oid / peel_onion: ^{tree} should mean tree, not treeish Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-01  1:13   ` brian m. carlson
2018-04-30 22:07 ` [PATCH 8/9] get_short_oid / peel_onion: ^{tree} should mean commit, not commitish Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-04-30 23:22   ` Eric Sunshine
2018-04-30 22:07 ` [PATCH 9/9] config doc: document core.disambiguate Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-04-30 22:34 ` [PATCH 0/9] get_short_oid UI improvements Stefan Beller
2018-05-01  1:27 ` brian m. carlson
2018-05-01 11:16 ` Derrick Stolee
2018-05-01 12:06 ` [PATCH v2 00/12] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-01 13:03   ` [PATCH v2 06/11] get_short_oid: sort ambiguous objects by type, then SHA-1 Derrick Stolee
2018-05-01 13:39     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-01 13:44       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-05-01 14:10         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-01 14:15           ` Derrick Stolee
2018-05-01 18:40   ` [PATCH v3 00/12] get_short_oid UI improvements Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-02 12:42     ` Derrick Stolee
2018-05-02 13:45       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-05-03  6:43         ` Jacob Keller
2018-05-01 18:40   ` [PATCH v3 01/12] sha1-name.c: remove stray newline Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-01 18:40   ` [PATCH v3 02/12] sha1-array.h: align function arguments Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-01 18:40   ` [PATCH v3 03/12] git-p4: change "commitish" typo to "committish" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-01 18:40   ` [PATCH v3 04/12] cache.h: add comment explaining the order in object_type Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-03  5:05     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-08 15:35     ` Duy Nguyen
2018-05-08 15:56       ` [PATCH] pack-format.txt: more details on pack file format Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-05-08 17:23         ` Stefan Beller
2018-05-08 18:22           ` Duy Nguyen
2018-05-08 18:58             ` Stefan Beller
2018-05-08 18:21         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-08 18:24           ` Duy Nguyen
2018-05-10 15:09         ` [PATCH v2] " Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-05-10 17:06           ` Stefan Beller
2018-05-11  6:41             ` Duy Nguyen
2018-05-11  3:54           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-11  6:55           ` [PATCH v3] " Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-05-01 18:40   ` [PATCH v3 05/12] sha1-name.c: move around the collect_ambiguous() function Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-01 18:40   ` [PATCH v3 06/12] get_short_oid: sort ambiguous objects by type, then SHA-1 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-03  5:13     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-08 14:44     ` Jeff King
2018-05-01 18:40   ` [PATCH v3 07/12] get_short_oid: learn to disambiguate by ^{tag} Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-01 18:40   ` [PATCH v3 08/12] get_short_oid: learn to disambiguate by ^{blob} Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-01 18:40   ` [PATCH v3 09/12] get_short_oid / peel_onion: ^{tree} should be tree, not treeish Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-03  5:28     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-03  7:28       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-04  2:19         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-04  8:42           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2018-05-07  4:08             ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-08 14:34               ` Jeff King
2018-05-08 18:53                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-09  7:56                   ` Jeff King
2018-05-09 10:48                     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-10  4:21                       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-10  6:50                         ` Jeff King
2018-05-10 12:42     ` [PATCH v4 0/6] get_short_oid UI improvements Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-10 16:04       ` Jeff King
2018-05-10 12:42     ` [PATCH v4 1/6] sha1-name.c: remove stray newline Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-10 12:42     ` [PATCH v4 2/6] sha1-array.h: align function arguments Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-10 15:06       ` Jeff King
2018-05-11  3:07         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-11  3:09           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-10 12:43     ` [PATCH v4 3/6] git-p4: change "commitish" typo to "committish" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-10 15:00       ` Luke Diamand
2018-05-10 12:43     ` [PATCH v4 4/6] sha1-name.c: move around the collect_ambiguous() function Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-10 12:43     ` [PATCH v4 5/6] get_short_oid: sort ambiguous objects by type, then SHA-1 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-10 15:22       ` Jeff King
2018-05-11  5:36       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-10 12:43     ` [PATCH v4 6/6] get_short_oid: document & warn if we ignore the type selector Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-10 13:15       ` Martin Ågren
2018-05-10 16:03       ` Jeff King
2018-05-10 16:10         ` Jeff King
2018-05-10 16:15         ` Jeff King
2018-05-01 18:40   ` [PATCH v3 10/12] get_short_oid / peel_onion: ^{commit} should be commit, not committish Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-01 18:40   ` [PATCH v3 11/12] config doc: document core.disambiguate Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-08 14:41     ` Jeff King
2018-05-01 18:40   ` [PATCH v3 12/12] get_short_oid: document & warn if we ignore the type selector Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-01 12:06 ` [PATCH v2 01/12] sha1-name.c: remove stray newline Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-01 12:06 ` [PATCH v2 02/12] sha1-array.h: align function arguments Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-01 12:06 ` [PATCH v2 03/12] git-p4: change "commitish" typo to "committish" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-01 12:06 ` [PATCH v2 04/12] cache.h: add comment explaining the order in object_type Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-01 12:06 ` [PATCH v2 05/12] sha1-name.c: move around the collect_ambiguous() function Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-01 12:06 ` [PATCH v2 06/12] get_short_oid: sort ambiguous objects by type, then SHA-1 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-01 12:06 ` [PATCH v2 07/12] get_short_oid: learn to disambiguate by ^{tag} Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-01 12:06 ` [PATCH v2 08/12] get_short_oid: learn to disambiguate by ^{blob} Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-01 12:06 ` [PATCH v2 09/12] get_short_oid / peel_onion: ^{tree} should be tree, not treeish Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-01 12:06 ` [PATCH v2 10/12] get_short_oid / peel_onion: ^{commit} should be commit, not committish Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-01 12:06 ` [PATCH v2 11/12] config doc: document core.disambiguate Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-01 12:06 ` [PATCH v2 12/12] get_short_oid: document & warn if we ignore the type selector Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason

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