From: Andrew Keller <andrew@kellerfarm.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
"Git List" <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Borrowing objects from nearby repositories
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 10:52:20 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8030ADEA-B11F-47E8-AFE7-8F46E861F560@kellerfarm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqbnwskgwd.fsf@gitster.dls.corp.google.com>
On Mar 26, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
> Andrew Keller <andrew@kellerfarm.com> writes:
>
>> On Mar 25, 2014, at 6:17 PM, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
>> ...
>>>> I think that the standard practice with the existing toolset is to
>>>> clone with reference and then repack. That is:
>>>>
>>>> $ git clone --reference <borrowee> git://over/there mine
>>>> $ cd mine
>>>> $ git repack -a -d
>>>>
>>>> And then you can try this:
>>>>
>>>> $ mv .git/objects/info/alternates .git/objects/info/alternates.disabled
>>>> $ git fsck
>>>>
>>>> to make sure that you are no longer borrowing anything from the
>>>> borrowee. Once you are satisfied, you can remove the saved-away
>>>> alternates.disabled file.
>>>
>>> Oh, I forgot to say that I am not opposed if somebody wants to teach
>>> "git clone" a new option to copy its objects from two places,
>>> (hopefully) the majority from near-by reference repository and the
>>> remainder over the network, without permanently relying on the
>>> former via the alternates mechanism. The implementation of such a
>>> feature could even literally be "clone with reference first and then
>>> repack" at least initially but even in the final version.
>
> [Administrivia: please wrap your lines to a reasonable length]
>
>> That was actually one of my first ideas - adding some sort of
>> '--auto-repack' option to git-clone. It's a relatively small
>> change, and would work. However, keeping in mind my end goal of
>> automating the feature to the point where you could run simply
>> 'git clone <url>', an '--auto-repack' option is more difficult to
>> undo. You would need a new parameter to disable the automatic
>> adding of reference repositories, and a new parameter to undo
>> '--auto-repack', and you'd have to remember to actually undo both
>> of those settings.
>>
>> In contrast, if the new feature was '--borrow', and the evolution
>> of the feature was a global configuration 'fetch.autoBorrow', then
>> to turn it off temporarily, one only needs a single new parameter
>> '--no-auto-borrow'. I think this is a cleaner approach than the
>> former, although much more work.
>
> I think you may have misread me. With the "new option", I was
> hinting that the "clone --reference && repack && rm alternates"
> will be an acceptable internal implementation of the "--borrow"
> option that was mentioned in the thread. I am not sure where you
> got the "auto-repack" from.
Ah, yes - that is better than what I was thinking. I was thinking a bit
too low-level, and using two arguments in the place of your one.
> One of the reasons you may have misread me may be because I made it
> sound as if "this may work and when it works you will be happy, but
> if it does not work you did not lose very much" by mentioning "mv &&
> fsck". That wasn't what I meant.
>
> The "repack -a" procedure is to make the borrower repository no
> longer dependent on the borrowee, and it is supposed to always work.
> In fact, this behaviour was the whole reason why "repack" later
> learned its "-l" option to disable it, because people who cloned
> with "--reference" in order to reduce the disk footprint by sharing
> older and more common objects [*1*] were rightfully surprised to see
> that the borrowed objects were copied over to their borrower
> repository when they ran "repack" [*2*].
>
> Because this is "clone", there is nothing complex to "undo". Either
> it succeeds, or you remove the whole new directory if anything
> fails.
>
> I said "even in the final version" for a simple reason: you cannot
> cannot do realistically any better than the "clone --reference &&
> repack -a d && rm alternates" sequence.
Wow, that's very insightful - thanks! So, it sounds like I was right about
the general areas of concern when trying to do this during a fetch, but
I underestimated just how complicated it would be.
Okay, so to re-frame my idea, like you said, the goal is to find a user-
friendly way for the user to tell git-clone to set up the alternates file
(or perhaps just use the --alternates parameter), and run a repack,
and disconnect the alternate. And yet, we still want to be able to use
--reference on its own, because there are existing use cases for that.
Thanks!
- Andrew Keller
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-03-28 14:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-03-12 3:37 Borrowing objects from nearby repositories Andrew Keller
2014-03-23 18:04 ` Phil Hord
2014-03-24 21:21 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2014-03-25 13:13 ` Andrew Keller
2014-03-25 17:02 ` Junio C Hamano
2014-03-25 22:17 ` Junio C Hamano
2014-03-26 13:36 ` Andrew Keller
2014-03-26 17:29 ` Junio C Hamano
2014-03-28 14:52 ` Andrew Keller [this message]
2014-03-28 17:02 ` Junio C Hamano
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