git@vger.kernel.org mailing list mirror (one of many)
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Richard Hansen <rhansen@bbn.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] glossary: define committish (a.k.a. commit-ish)
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 15:36:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7vwqppwwwj.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51C22F77.8050004@bbn.com> (Richard Hansen's message of "Wed, 19 Jun 2013 18:23:51 -0400")

Richard Hansen <rhansen@bbn.com> writes:

> Here's what I'm trying to say:
>
>   * Given the current definition of "ref" in gitglossary(7), claiming
>     that a foo-ish is a ref is not entirely incorrect.

Ahh.  If you had quoted this a few exchanges ago:

    [[def_ref]]ref::
            A 40-byte hex representation of a <<def_SHA1,SHA-1>> or a name that
            denotes a particular <<def_object,object>>. They may be stored in
            a file under `$GIT_DIR/refs/` directory, or
            in the `$GIT_DIR/packed-refs` file.

I would have immediately understood what you were trying to say.
Sorry about a wasted back-and-forth.

The above is an utterly confused explanation.  It explains object
names and mentions as a sidenote that object names _can_ be held in
refs.

It does not say what a ref is, in other words.

Before 'packed-refs' was introduced, the right definition would have
been

	A file under `$GIT_DIR/refs/` directory that holds an object
	name.

And packed-refs is a way to coalesce such files into a single file
to make it easier/faster to access.

In today's world (after packed-refs was introduced), probably

	A name that begins with refs/ (e.g. refs/heads/master) that
	can point at an object name.

        The namespace of refs is hierarchical and different
        subhierarchy is used for different purposes (e.g. the
        refs/heads/ hierarchy is used to represent local branches).

is an appropriate rewrite of the above.

If we also want to explain the implementation details of refs, then
additionally at the end of the first paragraph, add:

	... at an object name, by storing its 40-byte hex
	representation.  They are implemented as either a file in
	$GIT_DIR/refs/ directory (called "loose refs") or an entry
	in $GIT_DIR/packed-refs file (called "packed refs"); when a
	loose ref exists, a packed ref of the same name is ignored.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-19 22:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-19  2:09 [PATCH 0/4] documentation cleanups for <rev>^{<type>} Richard Hansen
2013-06-19  2:09 ` [PATCH 1/4] glossary: add 'treeish' as a synonym for 'tree-ish' Richard Hansen
2013-06-19 17:09   ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-19 19:12     ` Richard Hansen
2013-06-19 21:46       ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-19 20:35     ` Richard Hansen
2013-06-19  2:09 ` [PATCH 2/4] glossary: define committish (a.k.a. commit-ish) Richard Hansen
2013-06-19  4:19   ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-19  4:38     ` Richard Hansen
2013-06-19  5:56       ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-19 15:31         ` Richard Hansen
2013-06-19 16:10           ` Richard Hansen
2013-06-19  6:19   ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-06-19 17:14   ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-19 19:16     ` Richard Hansen
2013-06-19 21:05       ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-19 22:23         ` Richard Hansen
2013-06-19 22:36           ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2013-06-19 23:37             ` Richard Hansen
2013-06-20  3:25               ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-20 10:55               ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-20 10:37       ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-19  2:09 ` [PATCH 3/4] glossary: more precise definition of tree-ish (a.k.a. treeish) Richard Hansen
2013-06-19  2:09 ` [PATCH 4/4] revisions.txt: fix and clarify <rev>^{<type>} Richard Hansen

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

  List information: http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=7vwqppwwwj.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org \
    --to=gitster@pobox.com \
    --cc=git@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=rhansen@bbn.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this public inbox

	https://80x24.org/mirrors/git.git

This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).