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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
Cc: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org,
	Johannes Schindelin <johannes.schindelin@gmx.de>,
	Max Horn <max@quendi.de>, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
	Sverre Rabbelier <srabbelier@gmail.com>,
	Brandon Casey <drafnel@gmail.com>,
	Brandon Casey <casey@nrlssc.navy.mil>,
	Ilari Liusvaara <ilari.liusvaara@elisanet.fi>,
	Pete Wyckoff <pw@padd.com>, Ben Walton <bdwalton@gmail.com>,
	Matthieu Moy <Matthieu.Moy@imag.fr>,
	Julian Phillips <julian@quantumfyre.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 15/15] fast-export: don't handle uninteresting refs
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 21:08:36 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7vfw43pmp7.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121121041735.GE4634@elie.Belkin> (Jonathan Nieder's message of "Tue, 20 Nov 2012 20:17:35 -0800")

Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com> writes:

> Never mind that others have said that that's not the current interface
> (I don't yet see why it would be a good interface after a transition,
> but maybe it would be).  Still, hopefully that clarifies the intended
> meaning.

Care to explain how the current interface is supposed to work, how
fast-export and transport-helper should interact with remote helpers
that adhere to the current interface, and how well/correctly the
current implementation of these pieces work?

What I am trying to get at is to see where the problem lies.  Felipe
sees bugs in the aggregated whole.  Is the root cause of the problems
he sees some breakages in the current interface?  Is the interface
designed right but the problem is that the implementation of the
transport-helper is buggy and driving fast-export incorrectly?  Or is
the implementation of the fast-export buggy and emitting wrong results,
even though the transport-helper is driving fast-export correctly?
Something else?

I see Felipe keeps repeating that there are bugs, and keeps posting
patches to change fast-export, but I haven't seen a concrete "No,
the reason why you see these problems is because you are not using
the interface correctly; the currrent interface is fine.  Here is
how you can fix your program" from "others".

With such a one-sided discussion, I've been having a hard time
convincing myself if Felipe's effort is making the interface better,
or just breaking it even more for existing remote helpers, only to
fit his world model better.

Help?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-11-21  5:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-11 13:59 [PATCH v5 00/15] fast-export and remote-testgit improvements Felipe Contreras
2012-11-11 13:59 ` [PATCH v5 01/15] fast-export: avoid importing blob marks Felipe Contreras
2012-11-11 16:36   ` Torsten Bögershausen
2012-11-11 16:38     ` Jeff King
2012-11-12 17:44       ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-11 17:53     ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-11 13:59 ` [PATCH v5 02/15] remote-testgit: fix direction of marks Felipe Contreras
2012-11-11 20:39   ` Max Horn
2012-11-11 13:59 ` [PATCH v5 03/15] remote-helpers: fix failure message Felipe Contreras
2012-11-11 13:59 ` [PATCH v5 04/15] Rename git-remote-testgit to git-remote-testpy Felipe Contreras
2012-11-11 13:59 ` [PATCH v5 05/15] Add new simplified git-remote-testgit Felipe Contreras
2012-11-11 20:40   ` Max Horn
2012-11-21 18:26   ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-21 23:39     ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-11 13:59 ` [PATCH v5 06/15] remote-testgit: get rid of non-local functionality Felipe Contreras
2012-11-21 18:26   ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-21 23:44     ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-11 13:59 ` [PATCH v5 07/15] remote-testgit: remove irrelevant test Felipe Contreras
2012-11-11 13:59 ` [PATCH v5 08/15] remote-testgit: cleanup tests Felipe Contreras
2012-11-21 18:28   ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-22  0:55     ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-11 13:59 ` [PATCH v5 09/15] remote-testgit: exercise more features Felipe Contreras
2012-11-21 18:26   ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-21 23:35     ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-11 13:59 ` [PATCH v5 10/15] remote-testgit: report success after an import Felipe Contreras
2012-11-11 13:59 ` [PATCH v5 11/15] remote-testgit: make clear the 'done' feature Felipe Contreras
2012-11-11 20:49   ` Max Horn
2012-11-11 21:22     ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-12 11:20       ` Max Horn
2012-11-12 15:45         ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-11-12 16:40           ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-21 18:11         ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-21 19:20           ` Sverre Rabbelier
2012-11-11 13:59 ` [PATCH v5 12/15] fast-export: trivial cleanup Felipe Contreras
2012-11-11 13:59 ` [PATCH v5 13/15] fast-export: fix comparison in tests Felipe Contreras
2012-11-11 13:59 ` [PATCH v5 14/15] fast-export: make sure updated refs get updated Felipe Contreras
2012-11-11 20:43   ` Max Horn
2012-11-21 18:12     ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-11 13:59 ` [PATCH v5 15/15] fast-export: don't handle uninteresting refs Felipe Contreras
2012-11-12 16:28   ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-20 22:43     ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-21  3:03       ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-21  4:17       ` Jonathan Nieder
2012-11-21  4:22         ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-21  5:08         ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2012-11-21  7:11           ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-21  8:37           ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-21 19:48           ` Jeff King
2012-11-22  0:28             ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-26  5:35               ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-26 12:16                 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-26 16:28                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2012-11-26 17:56                   ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-26 19:23                     ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-26 19:26                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2012-11-26 21:46                       ` Sverre Rabbelier
2012-11-26 22:22                         ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-21 22:30           ` Max Horn
2012-11-22  0:38             ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-21 18:14   ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-22  0:15     ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-24  3:12   ` Felipe Contreras
2012-11-21  9:46 ` [PATCH v5 00/15] fast-export and remote-testgit improvements Felipe Contreras
2012-11-21 19:05   ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-22  0:51     ` Felipe Contreras

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