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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Steffen Prohaska <prohaska@zib.de>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] push: Add '--current', which pushes only the current branch
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:50:54 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7v4pfiptb5.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7vejempudf.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org> (Junio C. Hamano's message of "Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:27:56 -0800")

Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> writes:

> Steffen Prohaska <prohaska@zib.de> writes:
> ...
>> I think 3) is the interesting case.  "git push" should do
>> nothing by default.
>
> NO WAY.
>
> Making things cumbersome to everybody does not achieve anything
> useful except for a false sense of equality, does it?
>
> Drop that step (3).  That is not useful to anybody.

Thinking about it a bit more, I think my wording was a bit too
strong and needs clarifying explanations.

In a case like this, a fix of a "misfeature" for somebody is a
regression for somebody else.  Because there is no single right
default that is appropriate for everybody.

At least having _one_ default (and picking arbitrarily the
historical default as that one default) is better than no
default at all.  The former will not inconvenience anybody by
forcing what has been necessary from before.  The latter will
hurt the lucky ones whose preferred way happened to be the
historical default.

Keeping the status quo, however, will inconvinience unfortunate
people whose preferred way was not the historical default.
That's where we start to tackle the problem, by introducing the
configuration variable.

If we can come up with a way to tell projects that use the
workflow better served with --current, perhaps when a remote is
added to the repository (either the initial clone or "git remote
add") and/or when a new branch is created.  If we automatically
set up the configuration "push.defaultRefs = current" in such a
case, I suspect that we do not have to have the built-in default
(at least, the value of the built-in default would not matter
much).

  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-19  7:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 168+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-22  6:32 What's cooking in git/spearce.git (topics) Shawn O. Pearce
2007-10-22  6:59 ` Jeff King
2007-10-22  7:16 ` Jeff King
2007-10-23  2:32   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-23  3:48     ` Jeff King
2007-10-22  7:24 ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-10-22 15:27 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-23  1:26 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-10-23  3:34   ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-10-24 12:51 ` What's cooking in git.git (topics) Junio C Hamano
2007-10-24 13:09   ` David Symonds
2007-10-24 16:08   ` Scott Parish
2007-10-24 18:27     ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-25  0:35       ` Scott Parish
2007-11-01  5:41   ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-01 11:02     ` Jakub Narebski
2007-11-01 20:57       ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-01 18:33     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-01 19:19       ` Geert Bosch
2007-11-01 20:27         ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-01 20:47           ` Mike Hommey
2007-11-01 21:20             ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-02  0:32               ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-01 21:44             ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-11-01 21:17           ` Geert Bosch
2007-11-02  0:00             ` Jonas Fonseca
2007-11-01 21:18           ` Theodore Tso
2007-11-01 21:26             ` Melchior FRANZ
2007-11-01 21:32           ` Johan Herland
2007-11-01 21:51             ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-01 22:05               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-01 22:26                 ` Bill Lear
2007-11-01 22:50                 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-02  2:19                 ` Petr Baudis
2007-11-01 21:42           ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-11-02  9:39             ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-11-01 21:57       ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-11-02  0:04       ` Jakub Narebski
2007-11-02  2:23         ` Petr Baudis
2007-11-02  7:25           ` Jakub Narebski
2007-11-02  7:28             ` Jakub Narebski
2007-11-02  8:42               ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-11-02  6:06       ` Miles Bader
2007-11-02 15:13         ` Miles Bader
2007-11-02  9:38       ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-11-02 11:03         ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-11-01 21:41     ` Brian Downing
2007-11-01 21:46       ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-11-02 10:26       ` Wincent Colaiuta
2007-11-04  4:14     ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-04  9:43       ` Jakub Narebski
2007-11-04 11:38       ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-11-08  8:08       ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-08 20:44         ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-11-12  7:09         ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-12 12:21           ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-11-12 12:26             ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-11-12 12:33               ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-11-12 13:11                 ` [PATCH] rebase: brown paper bag fix after the detached HEAD patch Johannes Schindelin
2007-11-12 14:53                 ` What's cooking in git.git (topics) Pierre Habouzit
2007-11-12 14:27             ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-11-12 15:02               ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-11-18 16:13                 ` [PATCH 1/2] push: Add '--matching' option and print warning if it should be used Steffen Prohaska
2007-11-18 16:13                   ` [PATCH 2/2] push: Add '--current', which pushes only the current branch Steffen Prohaska
2007-11-19  1:28                     ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-19  6:41                       ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-11-19  7:27                         ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-19  7:50                           ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2007-11-19  9:27                             ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-11-19  8:17                           ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-11-19  8:35                             ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-19  9:54                               ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-11-19 16:51                                 ` [PATCH] push: Add "--current", " Steffen Prohaska
2007-11-19 11:17                               ` [PATCH 2/2] push: Add '--current', " Jakub Narebski
2007-11-19 19:57                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-19 21:04                                   ` Jakub Narebski
2007-11-19 22:15                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-19 22:29                                       ` Jakub Narebski
2007-11-19  9:24                         ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-11-12 15:15           ` [PATCH] git-commit: Add tests for invalid usage of -a/--interactive with paths Björn Steinbrink
2007-11-15  0:18           ` What's cooking in git.git (topics) Junio C Hamano
2007-11-15  0:49             ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-11-15 14:49               ` [PATCH] t7501-commit: Add test for git commit <file> with dirty index Kristian Høgsberg
2007-11-15 15:55                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-11-15 16:11                 ` [PATCH] builtin-commit: fix "git add x y && git commit y" committing x, too Johannes Schindelin
2007-11-15 16:37                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-11-15 17:01                   ` Kristian Høgsberg
2007-11-16  0:43                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-11-17  8:45                       ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-18  9:18                         ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-17 12:40             ` What's cooking in git.git (topics) Jeff King
2007-11-17 20:51             ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-17 23:42               ` Alex Riesen
2007-11-18  1:29                 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-21  9:23               ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-23  8:48                 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-23 10:30                   ` Jeff King
2007-11-23 13:23                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-11-24 11:38                       ` Jeff King
2007-11-24 15:47                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-11-24 19:09                           ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-25 21:51                             ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-11-25 22:42                               ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-25 23:08                                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-11-26  4:02                               ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-11-26  4:15                                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-11-26  4:29                                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-11-26  4:45                                     ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-11-26  9:03                                     ` Jakub Narebski
2007-11-26  9:09                                       ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-11-26 19:11                                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-11-26 19:24                                         ` David Kastrup
2007-11-26 20:25                                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-11-26 20:40                                             ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-26 20:45                                             ` David Kastrup
2007-11-26 21:09                                               ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-11-26 21:22                                                 ` David Kastrup
2007-11-26 22:02                                                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-11-26 23:05                                                     ` David Kastrup
2007-11-26 23:28                                                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-11-26 23:52                                                         ` David Kastrup
2007-11-27  4:05                                                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-12-05 21:58                                                 ` Miles Bader
2007-11-26 21:14                                             ` Jakub Narebski
2007-11-26 21:36                                               ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-11-26 21:47                                                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-11-26  6:15                                   ` Jan Hudec
2007-11-25 20:27                   ` Junio C Hamano
2007-11-25 20:36                     ` Jakub Narebski
2007-11-25 20:53                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-12-01  2:37                     ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-01  8:55                       ` Eric Wong
2007-12-02 14:14                       ` [PATCH, next version] Add 'git fast-export', the sister of 'git fast-import' Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-02 14:40                       ` What's cooking in git.git (topics) Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-04  8:43                       ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-04  9:40                         ` Johannes Sixt
2007-12-04 10:08                           ` msysGit on FAT32 (was: What's cooking in git.git (topics)) Jakub Narebski
2007-12-04 13:30                             ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-04 13:48                               ` msysGit on FAT32 Johannes Sixt
2007-12-04 14:37                                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-04 20:03                           ` What's cooking in git.git (topics) Steffen Prohaska
2007-12-05 10:59                         ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-05 11:08                           ` Jakub Narebski
2007-12-05 11:10                           ` Jakub Narebski
2007-12-06  4:43                             ` Jeff King
2007-12-05 11:37                           ` [PATCH] Soft aliases: add "less" and minimal documentation Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-05 19:45                             ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-06  4:50                               ` Jeff King
2007-12-06  4:32                           ` What's cooking in git.git (topics) Jeff King
2007-12-07  9:51                           ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-07 11:11                             ` Jakub Narebski
2007-12-07 19:29                               ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-07 21:36                             ` Miklos Vajna
2007-12-09 10:27                             ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-13  2:48                               ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-13  3:22                                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-12-13 22:31                                   ` [PATCH 1/2] xdl_diff: identify call sites Junio C Hamano
2007-12-14  7:03                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-13 22:31                                   ` [PATCH 2/2] xdi_diff: trim common trailing lines Junio C Hamano
2007-12-14  9:06                                     ` Peter Baumann
2007-12-14 19:15                                       ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-17  8:40                                 ` What's cooking in git.git (topics) Junio C Hamano
2007-12-23  9:20                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-31 10:47                                     ` checkout --push/--pop idea (Re: What's cooking in git.git (topics)) Jan Hudec
2008-01-05 11:01                                     ` What's cooking in git.git (topics) Junio C Hamano
2008-01-05 16:04                                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-01-22  8:47                                       ` What will be cooking in git.git post 1.5.4 (topics) Junio C Hamano
2007-12-04 16:18                       ` What's cooking in git.git (topics) Brian Downing

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