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From: Johannes Sixt <j6t@kdbg.org>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: "Felipe Contreras" <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>,
	"David Aguilar" <davvid@gmail.com>,
	"Sergey Organov" <sorganov@gmail.com>,
	"Bagas Sanjaya" <bagasdotme@gmail.com>,
	"Elijah Newren" <newren@gmail.com>,
	"Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	"Denton Liu" <liu.denton@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/7] xdiff: make diff3 the default conflictStyle
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 08:23:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <638a0500-459a-a25b-afca-904ec0e09866@kdbg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqh7i5ci3t.fsf@gitster.g>

Am 11.06.21 um 03:20 schrieb Junio C Hamano:
> Yes, it does not help that the given sample involves conflicts in
> the inner merge, which is unfortunately almost unreadable.  For less
> confusing merges, diff3 style is often a lifesaver necessary for
> avoiding mismerges by showing what the common ancestor looked like,
> so that the reader/merger/integrator can tell what each side wanted
> to do to the conflicted section.
> 
> Rejecting diff3 style output because of the way a conflicted part in
> the inner merge appears as a common ancestor version may be throwing
> the baby out with the bathwater.  A different way to say it is that
> until we improve the way the conflicted inner merge is shown, diff3
> style is not something we can recommend to new users as a default, I
> would think.

I understand that diff3 is very useful for an integrator like you who
does a lot of merges of code that was not written by yourself.

But I would estimate that most conflicts (in absolute number among all
developers using Git) arise during rebase operations and cherry-picking,
i.e., while one is working on their own code. In such sitations, the
simpler conflict markup is sufficient, because one knows the background
and reason of the conflicts. And then the ability to compact conflicts
is a life-saver. Therefore, I argue that simple conflict style should
remain the default even if the presentation of inner conflicts under
diff3 style is improved.

-- Hannes

  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-11  6:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-09 19:28 [PATCH 0/7] Make diff3 the default conflict style Felipe Contreras
2021-06-09 19:28 ` [PATCH 1/7] test: add merge style config test Felipe Contreras
2021-06-09 19:42   ` Eric Sunshine
2021-06-09 20:29     ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-10  9:18   ` Phillip Wood
2021-06-10 13:26     ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-10 14:54       ` Phillip Wood
2021-06-10 16:34         ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-10 14:58       ` Phillip Wood
2021-06-10 16:47         ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-11  9:19           ` Phillip Wood
2021-06-11 14:39             ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-09 19:28 ` [PATCH 2/7] merge-tree: fix merge.conflictstyle handling Felipe Contreras
2021-06-09 19:28 ` [PATCH 3/7] notes: " Felipe Contreras
2021-06-09 19:28 ` [PATCH 4/7] checkout: " Felipe Contreras
2021-06-10  9:32   ` Phillip Wood
2021-06-10 14:11     ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-10 14:50       ` Phillip Wood
2021-06-10 16:32         ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-11  9:18           ` Phillip Wood
2021-06-11 14:34             ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-11  9:18   ` Phillip Wood
2021-06-09 19:28 ` [PATCH 5/7] xdiff: rename XDL_MERGE_STYLE_DIFF3 Felipe Contreras
2021-06-10  9:21   ` Phillip Wood
2021-06-10 13:33     ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-11  3:17     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-06-11 13:42       ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-09 19:28 ` [PATCH 6/7] xdiff: simplify style assignments Felipe Contreras
2021-06-10  9:26   ` Phillip Wood
2021-06-10 13:50     ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-09 19:28 ` [PATCH 7/7] xdiff: make diff3 the default conflictStyle Felipe Contreras
2021-06-10  6:41   ` Johannes Sixt
2021-06-10  7:53     ` Đoàn Trần Công Danh
2021-06-10 13:18       ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-10 13:18     ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-10 13:49     ` Jeff King
2021-06-10 16:00       ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-10 16:31         ` Jeff King
2021-06-11  1:20       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-06-11  6:23         ` Johannes Sixt [this message]
2021-06-11  6:43           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-06-11  7:02             ` Johannes Sixt
2021-06-11  7:14               ` Junio C Hamano
2021-06-11 11:51                 ` Sergey Organov
2021-06-11 15:32                   ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-11 15:52                     ` Sergey Organov
2021-06-11 16:36                       ` Felipe Contreras
     [not found]                     ` <CABPp-BHRQSF2_aYTBfpfnW4Bh3Hz7vLFj_QNGj8R4WeCS6_utw@mail.gmail.com>
2021-06-11 17:57                       ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-11 19:02                         ` Elijah Newren
2021-06-11 21:05                           ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-11 21:40                             ` Elijah Newren
2021-06-13 14:34                               ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-11 16:41                   ` Johannes Sixt
2021-06-11 17:21                     ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-11 17:40                       ` Sergey Organov
2021-06-11 18:10                         ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-11 18:22                           ` Sergey Organov
2021-06-11 14:28                 ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-11 14:25               ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-11 16:53                 ` Johannes Sixt
     [not found]                 ` <CABPp-BH0aRiSUw03nSK6jHRNQ+zcpUzr6WjeJ5GpdUCqCKxbag@mail.gmail.com>
2021-06-11 17:32                   ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-11 17:57                     ` Elijah Newren
2021-06-11 18:28                       ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-11 14:20           ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-11 14:09         ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-10  9:40   ` Phillip Wood
2021-06-10 14:19     ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-17 17:40 ` [PATCH 0/7] Make diff3 the default conflict style Phillip Wood
2021-06-17 18:24   ` Felipe Contreras

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