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* Bug when git rev-list options "--first-parent" and "--ancestry-path" are used together?
@ 2013-05-23 10:07 Michael Haggerty
  2013-05-23 17:20 ` Junio C Hamano
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Michael Haggerty @ 2013-05-23 10:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: git, Junio C Hamano

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It seems to me that

     git rev-list --first-parent --ancestry-path A..B

is well-defined and should list the commits in the intersection between

     git rev-list --first-parent                 A..B

and

     git rev-list                --ancestry-path A..B

But in many cases the first command doesn't provide any output even
though there are commits common to the output of the last two commands.

For example, take as an example the DAG from test t6019:

#          D---E-------F
#         /     \       \
#    B---C---G---H---I---J
#   /                     \
#  A-------K---------------L--M

(The merges are always downwards; e.g., the first parent of commit L is
K.)  The command

    git rev-list --first-parent --ancestry-path D..J

doesn't generate any output, whereas I would expect it to output "H I
J".  Similarly,

    git rev-list --first-parent --ancestry-path D..M

doesn't generate any output, whereas I would expect it to output "L M".

For fun, the attached script computes the output for all commit pairs in
this DAG and outputs the discrepancies that it finds.  (It should be run
in directory "t/trash directory.t6019-rev-list-ancestry-path" after
t6019 was run with "-d".)

Is this a bug or are my expectations wrong?

Michael

-- 
Michael Haggerty
mhagger@alum.mit.edu
http://softwareswirl.blogspot.com/

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* Re: Bug when git rev-list options "--first-parent" and "--ancestry-path" are used together?
  2013-05-23 10:07 Bug when git rev-list options "--first-parent" and "--ancestry-path" are used together? Michael Haggerty
@ 2013-05-23 17:20 ` Junio C Hamano
  2013-05-25 18:40   ` Michael Haggerty
       [not found]   ` <519F0B2F.3090701@alum.mit.edu>
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Junio C Hamano @ 2013-05-23 17:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael Haggerty; +Cc: git

Michael Haggerty <mhagger@alum.mit.edu> writes:

> It seems to me that
>
>      git rev-list --first-parent --ancestry-path A..B
>
> is well-defined and should list the commits in the intersection between
>
>      git rev-list --first-parent                 A..B
>
> and
>
>      git rev-list                --ancestry-path A..B
>
> But in many cases the first command doesn't provide any output even
> though there are commits common to the output of the last two commands.
>
> For example, take as an example the DAG from test t6019:
>
> #          D---E-------F
> #         /     \       \
> #    B---C---G---H---I---J
> #   /                     \
> #  A-------K---------------L--M
>
> (The merges are always downwards; e.g., the first parent of commit L is
> K.)  The command
>
>     git rev-list --first-parent --ancestry-path D..J
>
> doesn't generate any output, whereas I would expect it to output "H I
> J".

As I do not see how "only show first-parent chains from near the tip
but stop immediately when the chain deviates from the ancestry path"
could be a sensible operation (in other words, I do not offhand
think of examples of what useful things you can do with that
information), I actually expect that "-f-p -a-p D..J" should error
out, instead of giving no output.

You are correct to point out that sometimes -f-p and -a-p _could_ be
compatible, e.g. "-f-p -a-p A..M", or "-f-p -a-p B..M".  But I think
the only case that they are compatible is when "-f-p" output is a
strict subset of what "-a-p" without "-f-p" would give.

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* Re: Bug when git rev-list options "--first-parent" and "--ancestry-path" are used together?
  2013-05-23 17:20 ` Junio C Hamano
@ 2013-05-25 18:40   ` Michael Haggerty
       [not found]   ` <519F0B2F.3090701@alum.mit.edu>
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Michael Haggerty @ 2013-05-25 18:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Junio C Hamano; +Cc: git discussion list

[Junio, sorry for the dup; somehow I failed to CC the first version to
the mailing list.]

On 05/23/2013 07:20 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Michael Haggerty <mhagger@alum.mit.edu> writes:
> 
>> It seems to me that
>>
>>      git rev-list --first-parent --ancestry-path A..B
>>
>> is well-defined and should list the commits in the intersection between
>>
>>      git rev-list --first-parent                 A..B
>>
>> and
>>
>>      git rev-list                --ancestry-path A..B
>>
>> But in many cases the first command doesn't provide any output even
>> though there are commits common to the output of the last two commands.
>>
>> For example, take as an example the DAG from test t6019:
>>
>> #          D---E-------F
>> #         /     \       \
>> #    B---C---G---H---I---J
>> #   /                     \
>> #  A-------K---------------L--M
>>
>> (The merges are always downwards; e.g., the first parent of commit L is
>> K.)  The command
>>
>>     git rev-list --first-parent --ancestry-path D..J
>>
>> doesn't generate any output, whereas I would expect it to output "H I
>> J".
> 
> As I do not see how "only show first-parent chains from near the tip
> but stop immediately when the chain deviates from the ancestry path"
> could be a sensible operation (in other words, I do not offhand
> think of examples of what useful things you can do with that
> information), I actually expect that "-f-p -a-p D..J" should error
> out, instead of giving no output.
> 
> You are correct to point out that sometimes -f-p and -a-p _could_ be
> compatible, e.g. "-f-p -a-p A..M", or "-f-p -a-p B..M".  But I think
> the only case that they are compatible is when "-f-p" output is a
> strict subset of what "-a-p" without "-f-p" would give.

I guess I should tell you the application that motivated the use of
these options together.  Maybe you can suggest a better approach.

I'm trying to find the most general conditions where an incremental
merge [1,2] makes sense.  The simple case is merging two linear
branches, call them "branch" and "master":

o - 0 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4    ← master
     \
      A - B - C - D      ← branch

My tool git-imerge does this (conceptually) by constructing the pairwise
merges between each commit on master and each commit on branch:

o - 0 - 1  - 2  - 3  - 4   ← master
    |   |    |    |    |
    A - A1 - A2 - A3 - A4
    |   |    |    |    |
    B - B1 - B2 - B3 - B4
    |   |    |    |    |
    C - C1 - C2 - C3 - C4
    |   |    |    |    |
    D - D1 - D2 - D3 - D4  ← final merge
    ↑
  branch

Each of the new items [ABCD][1234] is a merge commit between its
neighbor above and its neighbor to the left.  The idea is that the
pairwise merges are less likely to conflict, and if they conflict are
likely to be easy to reconcile.

I am trying to generalize this approach to a more complicated situation
where the two branches are not linear.

The current incremental merge algorithm requires that each commit
0,1,2,3,4 and 0,A,B,C be a direct descendant of its predecessors.
That's trivial for linear branches.  But if the situation looks like this:

o - 0 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4    ← master
     \
      A - B - C - D      ← branch
           \     /
            X - Y

then there is no correct ordering of 0,A,B,C,D,X,Y that has the
descendancy property.  So currently I always take use the first-parent
list of commits on each branch (i.e., omitting X and Y), which does have
that property.

Now assume a slightly more complicated situation, in which master has
been merged to feature branch at some point:

o - 0 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4    ← master
     \       \
      A - B - C - D      ← branch
           \     /
            X - Y

Now when we do an incremental merge branch into master, how do we
generate the list of commits to put one each axis of the table?  The
merge base is "2", so I think the best answer is

1- 2 - 3  - 4   ← master
   |   |    |
   C - C3 - C4
   |   |    |
   D - D3 - D4  ← final merge
   ↑
 branch

The simplest way I can think of to generate the list C,D is

    git rev-list --first-parent --ancestry-path 2..D

We need --ancestry-path to avoid getting commits A and B.  It's still
not clear that this is always the best approach but at least it seems
safe.  For example, suppose that the first parent of D is Y rather than C:

o - 0 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4    ← master
     \       \
      A - B - C --.
           \       \
            X - Y - D    ← branch

In this case, the above command (it it worked correctly) would just
output "D".  This is correct and could be used for a (degenerate, in
this case) incremental merge [3].

This is my reason for wanting --first-parent and --ancestry-path to work
together.

For now I'm just running rev-list twice and computing the intersection
by hand, but it was surprising that git could not do this for me.

Michael

[1] https://github.com/mhagger/git-imerge
[2]
http://softwareswirl.blogspot.com/2013/05/git-imerge-practical-introduction.html
(and references therein)
[3] It might be more helpful to use C,D in this case rather than just D,
but I haven't yet figured out whether this is just a special case or
whether it hints at an algorithm that is more clever than
"--first-parent --ancestry-path".

-- 
Michael Haggerty
mhagger@alum.mit.edu
http://softwareswirl.blogspot.com/

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* Re: Bug when git rev-list options "--first-parent" and "--ancestry-path" are used together?
       [not found]     ` <7v4nds9rhh.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org>
@ 2013-05-25 19:54       ` Michael Haggerty
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Michael Haggerty @ 2013-05-25 19:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Junio C Hamano; +Cc: git discussion list, Kevin Bracey

On 05/24/2013 08:12 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Michael Haggerty <mhagger@alum.mit.edu> writes:
> 
>> Now assume a slightly more complicated situation, in which master has
>> been merged to feature branch at some point:
>>
>> o - 0 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4    ← master
>>      \       \
>>       A - B - C - D      ← branch
>>            \     /
>>             X - Y
>>
>> Now when we do an incremental merge branch into master, how do we
>> generate the list of commits to put one each axis of the table?  The
>> merge base is "2", so I think the best answer is
>>
>> 1- 2 - 3  - 4   ← master
>>    |   |    |
>>    C - C3 - C4
>>    |   |    |
>>    D - D3 - D4  ← final merge
>>    ↑
>>  branch
> 
> I am not sure if that is the best answer, though.
> 
> After managing to create Cn, if a change between C and D (which come
> from X and Y) is too complex, wouldn't you want to break down the
> task to come up with Dn recursively into a smaller subtask of
> merging X first and then Y on top and finally D?

OK, so let's assume that C3 is done and D3 is giving us problems:

o - 0 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4    ← master
     \       \   \
      \       \   C3- ?
       \       \ /   /
        A - B - C - D      ← branch
             \     /
              X - Y

Your proposal is not to merge D directly but rather to merge X then Y.

o - 0 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4    ← master
     \       \   \
      \       \   C3 --- X3 - Y3 - D3
       \       \ /      /    /    /
        A - B - C - D- / -- / ---'   ← the lines here...
             \     /  /    /
              X - Y- / ---'          ← ...and here don't intersect
               \    /
                `--'

The problem is that the merges that would be required are not able to
take advantage of the conflict resolution that was done in D:

The merge base for X3 would be B.  This is a little bit wrong because X3
includes C among its ancestors, so creating X3 requires some of the
conflicts between X and C (which were resolved once in D) to be resolved
again.

The merge base for Y3 would be X.  Note that Y3 already includes C and Y
among its ancestors.  Therefore, resolving Y3 involves resolving the
same conflicts between Y and C that were already resolved in D.  But
since merge Y3 doesn't know about D, the user would be forced to resolve
those conflicts again (albeit maybe helped by something like rerere).

And merge D3 would have two merge bases, C and Y.  This is related to
the fact that there are now two independent known resolutions for
merging C and Y, namely D and Y3.

Given that Y3 in the above scenario needs to include include C (via C3)
and also Y, it seems to me that this merge is superfluous.  It should
have exactly the same content as D3, assuming that the conflicts are
resolved the same way.  Therefore one could skip Y3 and proceed directly
to D3:

o - 0 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4    ← master
     \       \   \
      \       \   C3 --- X3 - D3
       \       \ /      /    /
        A - B - C - D- / ---'        ← the lines here...
             \     /  /
              X - Y  /               ← ...and here don't intersect
               \    /
                `--'

This merge could take advantage of the conflict resolution that was done
in D.  It would have an unambiguous merge base, C.

But I still think that this approach is not as clean as an incremental
merge of two linear branches, because X3 requires some of the same
conflicts to be resolved as were already resolved in D.

Incidentally, if merge D had been done incrementally and the full
incremental merge resolution had been kept, then we would have the
missing merge CX that would allow us to compute D3 incrementally:

o - 0 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4    ← master
    |       |   |
    A - B - C - C3
        |   |   |
        X - CX- C3X
        |   |   |
        Y - D - D3

I think that all of the required merges have sane merge-bases and take
advantage of all of the merges that have been done previously.  This is
another case where an incremental merges contains information that can
be useful for the future.

>> The simplest way I can think of to generate the list C,D is
>>
>>     git rev-list --first-parent --ancestry-path 2..D
>>
>> We need --ancestry-path to avoid getting commits A and B.  It's still
>> not clear that this is always the best approach but at least it seems
>> safe.
> 
> Hmm, while I agree that A and B will be omitted by using ancestry
> path on the example topology, I need to be convinced that it is
> impossible to end up with disjoint segments of a history in any
> ancestry graph by combining -f-p and -a-p that way to feel "safe".

If by "disjoint" you mean that the history contains gaps, that is
exactly what happens in the case I described in my last email:

o - 0 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4    ← master
     \       \
      A - B - C --.
           \       \
            X - Y - D    ← branch

The result of "git rev-list --first-parent --ancestry-path 2..D" would
be only D and commit C would disappear into the "gap".

I am willing to accept that for my application, because the incremental
merge algorithm can work despite gaps in the history but it cannot work
if the ancestry property is not met.

>> This is my reason for wanting --first-parent and --ancestry-path to work
>> together.
>>
>> For now I'm just running rev-list twice and computing the intersection
>> by hand, but it was surprising that git could not do this for me.
> 
> Wouldn't you be able to read everything you need out of a single
> 
> 	git rev-list --left-right --parents master...branch
> 
> output?
> 
> By the way, there is a fairly major fixes to the revision traversal
> machinery that has been parked on pu, which leads to 141efdba57b1
> (revision.c: make default history consider bottom commits,
> 2013-05-16).  The topic revises the semantics of ancestry-path to
> bring more sanity to it.
> 
> I haven't had time to see how it changes the situation for the use
> case you described in the message I am responding to, but I think it
> is worth checking to see how well it meshes with your expectation,
> and if it doesn't involve Kevin in the design discussion.

I'll look into all of these suggestions; thanks.  I'm also CCing Kevin
on this email.

Michael

-- 
Michael Haggerty
mhagger@alum.mit.edu
http://softwareswirl.blogspot.com/

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