* Google Summer of Code 2008
@ 2008-02-26 22:56 Jakub Narebski
2008-02-26 23:39 ` Johannes Schindelin
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From: Jakub Narebski @ 2008-02-26 22:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: git; +Cc: Shawn O. Pearce
I have just read (via Linux Today news[*1*]) that GSoC 2008
initiative starts early. Applications for organizations open
March 3 and close March 12. Git development community participated
in GSoC 2007 with two projects accepted[*2*]: builtinification
and libification. What do you think about their results for git?
What do you think about participating in this year GSoC?
Cc: Shawn Pearce, who was promary contact for GSoC 2007.
Footnotes:
==========
[1] http://blog.internetnews.com/skerner/2008/02/google-summer-of-code-2008-alr.html
[2] http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/SoC2007Projects
--
Jakub Narebski
Poland
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* Re: Google Summer of Code 2008
2008-02-26 22:56 Google Summer of Code 2008 Jakub Narebski
@ 2008-02-26 23:39 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-02-28 6:36 ` Shawn O. Pearce
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From: Johannes Schindelin @ 2008-02-26 23:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jakub Narebski; +Cc: git, Shawn O. Pearce
Hi,
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008, Jakub Narebski wrote:
> I have just read (via Linux Today news[*1*]) that GSoC 2008 initiative
> starts early. Applications for organizations open March 3 and close
> March 12. Git development community participated in GSoC 2007 with two
> projects accepted[*2*]: builtinification and libification. What do you
> think about their results for git? What do you think about participating
> in this year GSoC?
I think that GSoC2007 was quite nice for us. And with what we learnt, we
would do even better in 2008.
However, I simply do not have the time to serve as primary contact. I am
willing to be mentor again, though.
As for projects, I imagine that Gitorrent, further builtinification and
Windows support would be good candidates.
Ciao,
Dscho
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* Re: Google Summer of Code 2008
2008-02-26 23:39 ` Johannes Schindelin
@ 2008-02-28 6:36 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-02-28 7:03 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
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From: Shawn O. Pearce @ 2008-02-28 6:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Johannes Schindelin; +Cc: Jakub Narebski, git
Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008, Jakub Narebski wrote:
>
> > I have just read (via Linux Today news[*1*]) that GSoC 2008 initiative
> > starts early. Applications for organizations open March 3 and close
> > March 12. Git development community participated in GSoC 2007 with two
> > projects accepted[*2*]: builtinification and libification. What do you
> > think about their results for git? What do you think about participating
> > in this year GSoC?
>
> I think that GSoC2007 was quite nice for us. And with what we learnt, we
> would do even better in 2008.
I agree. Unfortunately though it seems only 3 of us out of 855
current subscribers to the git mailing list have anything to say
on the subject in the past couple of days. :-\
> However, I simply do not have the time to serve as primary contact. I am
> willing to be mentor again, though.
I'd be willing to do it again, as well as mentor a student. I found it
very interesting last year.
> As for projects, I imagine that Gitorrent, further builtinification and
> Windows support would be good candidates.
Yea, Gitorrent would be cool. Especially since send-pack is
somewhat heavy on the server's resources and there are some very
popular projects offered in git format (hello Linux kernel!).
I'd love to see new features added to git-gui, but I'm being selfish.
Ditto with jgit and egit, though I think Robin has done a stellar
job with them thus far. I can still want them to grow.
pack v4 (or maybe v5?! a student could have better ideas then we
have thus far come up with) would also be interesting.
My list could probably go on for a bit.
--
Shawn.
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* Re: Google Summer of Code 2008
2008-02-28 6:36 ` Shawn O. Pearce
@ 2008-02-28 7:03 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2008-02-28 10:27 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-02-28 10:27 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-02-28 13:59 ` Jonas Fonseca
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From: Jeremy Maitin-Shepard @ 2008-02-28 7:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Shawn O. Pearce; +Cc: Johannes Schindelin, Jakub Narebski, git
"Shawn O. Pearce" <spearce@spearce.org> writes:
[snip]
> My list could probably go on for a bit.
Just as a suggested project, it seems that a continuation of the efforts
on libgit-thin would be very useful.
--
Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
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* Re: Google Summer of Code 2008
2008-02-28 6:36 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-02-28 7:03 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
@ 2008-02-28 10:27 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-02-29 12:04 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-02-28 13:59 ` Jonas Fonseca
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From: Johannes Schindelin @ 2008-02-28 10:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Shawn O. Pearce, Robin Rosenberg; +Cc: Jakub Narebski, git
Hi,
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008, Shawn O. Pearce wrote:
> Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
> > On Tue, 26 Feb 2008, Jakub Narebski wrote:
> >
> > > I have just read (via Linux Today news[*1*]) that GSoC 2008
> > > initiative starts early. Applications for organizations open March
> > > 3 and close March 12. Git development community participated in
> > > GSoC 2007 with two projects accepted[*2*]: builtinification and
> > > libification. What do you think about their results for git? What
> > > do you think about participating in this year GSoC?
> >
> > I think that GSoC2007 was quite nice for us. And with what we learnt,
> > we would do even better in 2008.
>
> I agree. Unfortunately though it seems only 3 of us out of 855 current
> subscribers to the git mailing list have anything to say on the subject
> in the past couple of days. :-\
Yes, it is sad. Even if now 4 out of 855 current subscribers said
something.
> > However, I simply do not have the time to serve as primary contact.
> > I am willing to be mentor again, though.
>
> I'd be willing to do it again, as well as mentor a student. I found it
> very interesting last year.
Thanks!
> > As for projects, I imagine that Gitorrent, further builtinification
> > and Windows support would be good candidates.
>
> Yea, Gitorrent would be cool. Especially since send-pack is somewhat
> heavy on the server's resources and there are some very popular projects
> offered in git format (hello Linux kernel!).
>
> I'd love to see new features added to git-gui, but I'm being selfish.
Why? I see that we had many ideas, less student applications, and even
less accepted.
So let's throw ideas out there!
> Ditto with jgit and egit, though I think Robin has done a stellar job
> with them thus far. I can still want them to grow.
Robin, how about it?
> pack v4 (or maybe v5?! a student could have better ideas then we have
> thus far come up with) would also be interesting.
That would need a student who is already familiar with Git, though. A Git
newbie has no chance to learn everything necessary (including the style of
the community) in 3 months _and_ finish the project.
> My list could probably go on for a bit.
Do go ahead! I started the page
http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/SoC2008Ideas
which is utterly incomplete. I just took the ideas of 2007 that I am
still interested in, and removed other people from the Mentor list,
because I do not want to force them. So please, if you are interested in
mentoring one of the existing projects, just add yourself.
And of course add all those cool projects you have in mind.
Shawn, do we have to do the same again, as on this page?
http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/Soc2007Application
Ciao,
Dscho
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* Re: Google Summer of Code 2008
2008-02-28 7:03 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
@ 2008-02-28 10:27 ` Johannes Schindelin
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From: Johannes Schindelin @ 2008-02-28 10:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jeremy Maitin-Shepard; +Cc: Shawn O. Pearce, Jakub Narebski, git
Hi,
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008, Jeremy Maitin-Shepard wrote:
> Just as a suggested project, it seems that a continuation of the efforts
> on libgit-thin would be very useful.
It would be nice if you added that to the Wiki page, and maybe added
yourself as mentor?
Ciao,
Dscho
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* Re: Google Summer of Code 2008
2008-02-28 6:36 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2008-02-28 7:03 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2008-02-28 10:27 ` Johannes Schindelin
@ 2008-02-28 13:59 ` Jonas Fonseca
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From: Jonas Fonseca @ 2008-02-28 13:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Shawn O. Pearce; +Cc: Johannes Schindelin, Jakub Narebski, git
Hello,
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 7:36 AM, Shawn O. Pearce <spearce@spearce.org> wrote:
> Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
> > On Tue, 26 Feb 2008, Jakub Narebski wrote:
> > As for projects, I imagine that Gitorrent, further builtinification and
> > Windows support would be good candidates.
>
> Yea, Gitorrent would be cool. Especially since send-pack is
> somewhat heavy on the server's resources and there are some very
> popular projects offered in git format (hello Linux kernel!).
I will take this opportunity to add a few comments and promote a page.
To help improve chances of success for such a project, perhaps a
"community" edition of the protocol is in order. I have been planning
(and still are) to do a review of the protocol specification with input
from the mailing list. Basically, I am thinking to break the current RFC
document into self-contained chunks: a formal introduction + goals,
meta file and tracker part, and finally repository serialization and peer
wire.
In preparation, I started to populate pages at:
http://gittorrent.googlecode.com/
If there is interest I will try to find time to restart this process.
--
Jonas Fonseca
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* Re: Google Summer of Code 2008
2008-02-28 10:27 ` Johannes Schindelin
@ 2008-02-29 12:04 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-02-29 12:47 ` Julian Phillips
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From: Jakub Narebski @ 2008-02-29 12:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Johannes Schindelin; +Cc: Shawn O. Pearce, Robin Rosenberg, git, John Hawley
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
> Do go ahead! I started the page
>
> http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/SoC2008Ideas
>
> which is utterly incomplete. I just took the ideas of 2007 that I am
> still interested in,
By the way, when looking at 2007 GSoC ideas one can see that some of
them got implemented already outside of GSoC, and are no longer valid;
well, perhaps as "improve <sth>" ideas.
Subproject/submodule support got implemented, Mozilla has decided to use
Mecurial instead of Git (but there are other large-scale imports:
OpenOffice.org, GCC) and cvs2svn supports fast-import output which
means export to git, gitattributes support got much extended.
> and removed other people from the Mentor list,
> because I do not want to force them. So please, if you are interested
> in mentoring one of the existing projects, just add yourself.
>
> And of course add all those cool projects you have in mind.
I have some interesting ideas for GSoC, but unfortunately none (with
perhaps single exception) that I could mentor. So I think I'd list them
here for now, and later I'd add it to SoC2008Ideas page.
Here they are.
First, a few ideas which got partially implemented already, or are
implemented and need improvements. I don't know if current contributors
would want to be mentors, or would they want to submit their work under
GSoC as participants.
* Lazy clone / remote alternates
The idea here is to be able to remotely access objects from a network
based object server, as neededm rather than having them all local.
Goal: A working lazy clone prototype implementation that could be
considered for inclusion, in a nice series of commits (separate
branch/fork)
Language: C
Suggested mentor: Jan Holesovsky, who submitted proof-of-concept
patch for lazy clone
* Partial (subtree) checkout, or its generalization: sparse checkout
The idea is to checkout for example only Documentation subdirectory,
work on it, but commit full tree. Some workflows may be better suited
to this type of usage than using submodules. Optionally should include
partial clone (not needed objects not in repository).
Goal: A working partial checkout prototype implementation, with
technical documentation.
Language: C
Suggested mentors:
gitzilla (sent proposal),
Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy (pclouds), proposed to implements it
* Gitweb caching
Implementing very smart caching in gitweb, to avoid the thundering
herd problem on kernel.org whenever a repository gets updated, or at
least support for caching engines in the form of generating proper
Last-Modified: and ETag: headers, and responding to If-Modified-Since:
and If-None-Match: requests, cheaply.
Perhaps becoming the gitweb maintainer could come of it, or at least
the gitweb admin for kernel.org (sorely needed).
Goal: At minimum, port kernel.org's caching to mainline (git's) gitweb
Language: Perl, HTML, perhaps JavaScript
Suggested mentors:
John 'Warthog9' Hawley (wrote caching for kernel.org's gitweb)
Petr Baudis (repo.or.cz admin)
Lars Hjemli (cgit author, git web interface in C, with caching)
Jakub Narebski (gitweb contributor)
Then, a few ideas which were proposed for GSoC 2007, but never
implemented, and wasn't mentioned in this thread or on wiki for
GSoC 2008 yet
* Git / Subversion Interoperability
The idea here is implement something in Git that speaks the Subversion
protocol on the wire, but uses Git as the backend storage. (This would
be like the existing git-cvsserver.)
There are two potential approaches:
1. git-svnserver
2. write a backend for Subversion
Goal: To be able to access git repository, at minimum read-only, from
a Subversion client, at least svn CLI.
Language: Open for proposal.
Suggested mentors:
Eric Wong (git-svn author)
Matthias Urlichs (git-svnimport author)
Notes: I don't think we could pass it as Subversion SoC project, but
I guess that we could ask for co-mentor for the Subversion protocol,
or Subversion backend part of this task.
I'd send other ideas (including new ones, like translating svn:externals
into git submodules in git-svn; or making git mode for Emacs have all
features of tig, git-gui and gitk; or improving shallow clone support)
in a later post.
> Shawn, do we have to do the same again, as on this page?
>
> http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/Soc2007Application
A few things changes for us: we have participated in GSoC 2007; we need
to find backup organization administrator (was: Martin Langhoff for
GSoC2007), list of mentors would change most probably.
As far as I've checked the application form for organizations didn't
change...
--
Jakub Narebski
Poland
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* Re: Google Summer of Code 2008
2008-02-29 12:04 ` Jakub Narebski
@ 2008-02-29 12:47 ` Julian Phillips
2008-02-29 13:03 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-03-01 0:31 ` Sam Vilain
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From: Julian Phillips @ 2008-02-29 12:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jakub Narebski
Cc: Johannes Schindelin, Shawn O. Pearce, Robin Rosenberg, git,
John Hawley
On Fri, 29 Feb 2008, Jakub Narebski wrote:
> * Git / Subversion Interoperability
>
> The idea here is implement something in Git that speaks the Subversion
> protocol on the wire, but uses Git as the backend storage. (This would
> be like the existing git-cvsserver.)
>
> There are two potential approaches:
>
> 1. git-svnserver
> 2. write a backend for Subversion
>
> Goal: To be able to access git repository, at minimum read-only, from
> a Subversion client, at least svn CLI.
> Language: Open for proposal.
> Suggested mentors:
> Eric Wong (git-svn author)
> Matthias Urlichs (git-svnimport author)
> Notes: I don't think we could pass it as Subversion SoC project, but
> I guess that we could ask for co-mentor for the Subversion protocol,
> or Subversion backend part of this task.
FWIW: I have a partially implemented python git-svnserver that speaks the
svn:// protocol ... so far I can checkout from a git repos using the svn
client, and not much else. It's been on the backburner for a while, but I
had recently thought about revisiting it - but getting someone else to do
the implementation works too ;)
--
Julian
---
"It's men like him that give the Y chromosome a bad name."
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* Re: Google Summer of Code 2008
2008-02-29 12:47 ` Julian Phillips
@ 2008-02-29 13:03 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-03-01 1:37 ` Julian Phillips
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From: Johannes Schindelin @ 2008-02-29 13:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Julian Phillips
Cc: Jakub Narebski, Shawn O. Pearce, Robin Rosenberg, git,
John Hawley
Hi,
On Fri, 29 Feb 2008, Julian Phillips wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Feb 2008, Jakub Narebski wrote:
>
> > * Git / Subversion Interoperability
> >
> > The idea here is implement something in Git that speaks the Subversion
> > protocol on the wire, but uses Git as the backend storage. (This would
> > be like the existing git-cvsserver.)
> >
> > There are two potential approaches:
> >
> > 1. git-svnserver
> > 2. write a backend for Subversion
> >
> > Goal: To be able to access git repository, at minimum read-only, from
> > a Subversion client, at least svn CLI.
> > Language: Open for proposal.
> > Suggested mentors:
> > Eric Wong (git-svn author)
> > Matthias Urlichs (git-svnimport author)
> > Notes: I don't think we could pass it as Subversion SoC project, but
> > I guess that we could ask for co-mentor for the Subversion protocol,
> > or Subversion backend part of this task.
>
> FWIW: I have a partially implemented python git-svnserver that speaks the
> svn:// protocol ... so far I can checkout from a git repos using the svn
> client, and not much else. It's been on the backburner for a while, but I had
> recently thought about revisiting it - but getting someone else to do the
> implementation works too ;)
How about publishing it, so other people can take up the ball?
Ciao,
Dscho
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* Re: Google Summer of Code 2008
2008-02-29 12:04 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-02-29 12:47 ` Julian Phillips
@ 2008-03-01 0:31 ` Sam Vilain
2008-03-01 1:03 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-03-01 23:53 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-03-02 23:04 ` Martin Langhoff
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From: Sam Vilain @ 2008-03-01 0:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jakub Narebski
Cc: Johannes Schindelin, Shawn O. Pearce, Robin Rosenberg, git,
John Hawley, Julian Phillips
Jakub Narebski wrote:
> I have some interesting ideas for GSoC, but unfortunately none (with
> perhaps single exception) that I could mentor. So I think I'd list them
> here for now, and later I'd add it to SoC2008Ideas page.
>
> Here they are.
Great - I've put these all up on the wiki along with GitTorrent, and
noted Julian Phillips as a possible mentor for the git-svnserver. I'll
again point out that I wrote a plan for this effort at
http://utsl.gen.nz/git/git-svnserver.txt - though that may be becoming
more and more irrelevant.
Funnily enough, I'm actually a possible /student/ this year - I'm
studying full-time this year - not in Computer Science, but hey that's
not a requirement ;-), and perhaps finishing my GitTorrent
implementation in my breaks would be a nice way to earn US$5k. It would
be contrary to all of the "goals" of the programme¹, bar the first. I'd
have to get the work done on a slightly different schedule because of
the hemispherical term difference... but possible. Would this be an
abuse of the programme. I leave the moral question open to the list; I
can easily find paid contracting work over the time anyway. But this
would be *fun* :-)
Sam.
¹ http://code.google.com/soc/2008/faqs.html#0.1_goals
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* Re: Google Summer of Code 2008
2008-03-01 0:31 ` Sam Vilain
@ 2008-03-01 1:03 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-03-01 5:07 ` Sam Vilain
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From: Johannes Schindelin @ 2008-03-01 1:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sam Vilain
Cc: Jakub Narebski, Shawn O. Pearce, Robin Rosenberg, git,
John Hawley, Julian Phillips
Hi,
On Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Sam Vilain wrote:
> Funnily enough, I'm actually a possible /student/ this year - I'm
> studying full-time this year - not in Computer Science, but hey that's
> not a requirement ;-), and perhaps finishing my GitTorrent
> implementation in my breaks would be a nice way to earn US$5k.
You have my vote. If this works out, I will be your mentor. As you know,
I will not be easy to work with, but the outcome will be pleasing to you
_and_ me.
I think GitTorrent is a really interesting project. And since I do not
have time to do it myself, I would really appreciate this to be a GSoC
project, preferably a successful one (which is the reason I am willing to
mentor it).
Ciao,
Dscho
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* Re: Google Summer of Code 2008
2008-02-29 13:03 ` Johannes Schindelin
@ 2008-03-01 1:37 ` Julian Phillips
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From: Julian Phillips @ 2008-03-01 1:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Johannes Schindelin
Cc: Jakub Narebski, Shawn O. Pearce, Robin Rosenberg, git,
John Hawley
On Fri, 29 Feb 2008, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, 29 Feb 2008, Julian Phillips wrote:
>
>> FWIW: I have a partially implemented python git-svnserver that speaks the
>> svn:// protocol ... so far I can checkout from a git repos using the svn
>> client, and not much else. It's been on the backburner for a while, but I had
>> recently thought about revisiting it - but getting someone else to do the
>> implementation works too ;)
>
> How about publishing it, so other people can take up the ball?
It did work very well for the builtin fetch, didn't it?
(thanks Daniel)
Progress so far can be found at:
http://git.q42.co.uk/w/git_svn_server.git
>
> Ciao,
> Dscho
>
--
Julian
---
Nature, to be commanded, must be obeyed.
-- Francis Bacon
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* Re: Google Summer of Code 2008
2008-03-01 1:03 ` Johannes Schindelin
@ 2008-03-01 5:07 ` Sam Vilain
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From: Sam Vilain @ 2008-03-01 5:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Johannes Schindelin
Cc: Jakub Narebski, Shawn O. Pearce, Robin Rosenberg, git,
John Hawley, Julian Phillips
Johannes Schindelin wrote:
>> Funnily enough, I'm actually a possible /student/ this year - I'm
>> studying full-time this year - not in Computer Science, but hey that's
>> not a requirement ;-), and perhaps finishing my GitTorrent
>> implementation in my breaks would be a nice way to earn US$5k.
>
> You have my vote. If this works out, I will be your mentor. As you know,
> I will not be easy to work with, but the outcome will be pleasing to you
> _and_ me.
>
> I think GitTorrent is a really interesting project. And since I do not
> have time to do it myself, I would really appreciate this to be a GSoC
> project, preferably a successful one (which is the reason I am willing to
> mentor it).
Excellent, well that was going to be the next question - who would be
the mentor, and what would they do?
I guess I could re-work this RFP to be a proposal to complete it;
http://utsl.gen.nz/git/gittorrent-rfp.txt
So far, the first two milestones on the plan are basically nailed, so
that's something of a head start. The test script fires up two nodes
that connect to each other, sends a choke message and then shuts down.
I'm quite happy with the stack being used (Moose - which is CLOS for
Perl, and Coro - coroutines, similar to stackless python). How about I
brush that up and we can take this discussion off-list.
Sam.
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* Re: Google Summer of Code 2008
2008-02-29 12:04 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-02-29 12:47 ` Julian Phillips
2008-03-01 0:31 ` Sam Vilain
@ 2008-03-01 23:53 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-03-02 16:05 ` Matthieu Moy
2008-03-02 23:04 ` Martin Langhoff
3 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Jakub Narebski @ 2008-03-01 23:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Johannes Schindelin; +Cc: Shawn O. Pearce, Robin Rosenberg, git, John Hawley
On Fri, 29 Feb 2008, Jakub Narebski wrote:
> I'd send other ideas (including new ones, like translating
> svn:externals into git submodules in git-svn; or making git mode
> for Emacs have all features of tig, git-gui and gitk; or improving
> shallow clone support) in a later post.
And here they are.
* GNU Emacs git GUI
Make git mode for Emacs full featured git GUI, and not only commit
tool, following ideas of PCL-CVS... and its limitation. I guess that
DVC (http://download.gna.org/dvc) git mode is one thing to examine
searching for features to implement, but from what I have read in
documentation it is quite a but GNU Arch centric. Other git GUIs, like
git-gui, gitk, qgit, tig could also be inspiration for features.
Goal: Allow creating and switching branches, examining history,
merging, fetching etc. from withing Emacs. Should include modes for
git config file forma and format-patch patches.
Language: Emacs Lisp
Suggested mentors:
Alexandre Julliard
David Kagedal
* git-svn and submodules (and other improvements)
Make git-svn translate svn:externals (full kind) submodules into git
submodules. This might require improvements to submodule support in
git. Other improvements include proper dealing with miscelaneus
Subversion properties (translating them into .gitignore
and .gitattributes entries).
Goal: Succesfull two-way interaction with Subversion repository using
svn: externals for submodules.
Language: Perl
Suggested mentors:
Eric Wong (git-svn author)
Shawn O. Pearce
Johannes Schindelin
* Shallow clone improvements
IIRC the interaction with shallow clone is a bit limited. Lift those
limitations, allowing for example to push from shallow to full clone.
Goal: Push from shallow clone to full clone, or other shallow clone.
Language: C
Suggested mentors: Johannes Schindelin
* blame Merge Strategy
A new merge strategy "merge-blame". It should take advantage of code
(fragment) movement and copying detection in git blame, correctly
applying change to correct place if code was moved (e.g. reorganizing
code) or moving fragment into another file.
This strategy should probably be a function within merge-recursive
that is activated only when merge-recursive is invoked as merge-blame
(or some perhaps some better name). Further it probably should only be
used when a file fails to be merged cleanly, as a "last resort before
asking the developer to do it for me" sort of trick. Rationale here is
the blame computation is non-trivial and will take some CPU time, so
we want to avoid that in the common cases of non-moved code.
Goal: Demonstrate a working merge-blame that can fairly accurately
merge changes made to moved code segments.
Language: probably C
Suggested mentors: unknown
--
Jakub Narebski
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* Re: Google Summer of Code 2008
2008-03-01 23:53 ` Jakub Narebski
@ 2008-03-02 16:05 ` Matthieu Moy
2008-03-02 16:46 ` Jakub Narebski
0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Matthieu Moy @ 2008-03-02 16:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jakub Narebski
Cc: Johannes Schindelin, Shawn O. Pearce, Robin Rosenberg, git,
John Hawley
Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com> writes:
> On Fri, 29 Feb 2008, Jakub Narebski wrote:
>
>> I'd send other ideas (including new ones, like translating
>> svn:externals into git submodules in git-svn; or making git mode
>> for Emacs have all features of tig, git-gui and gitk; or improving
>> shallow clone support) in a later post.
>
> And here they are.
>
> * GNU Emacs git GUI
>
> Make git mode for Emacs full featured git GUI, and not only commit
> tool, following ideas of PCL-CVS... and its limitation. I guess that
> DVC (http://download.gna.org/dvc) git mode is one thing to examine
> searching for features to implement, but from what I have read in
> documentation it is quite a but GNU Arch centric.
The documentation is, but the tool isn't. Actually, DVC started as
"Xtla", which was _only_ a GNU Arch interface. The tool evolved a lot
since then, but the documentation is totally outdated :-(.
--
Matthieu
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* Re: Google Summer of Code 2008
2008-03-02 16:05 ` Matthieu Moy
@ 2008-03-02 16:46 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-03-02 18:05 ` Matthieu Moy
0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Jakub Narebski @ 2008-03-02 16:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Matthieu Moy; +Cc: git
[Cc list culled]
On Sun, 2 Mar 2008, Matthieu Moy wrote:
> Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> * GNU Emacs git GUI
>>
>> Make git mode for Emacs full featured git GUI, and not only commit
>> tool, following ideas of PCL-CVS... and its limitation. I guess that
>> DVC (http://download.gna.org/dvc) git mode is one thing to examine
>> searching for features to implement, but from what I have read in
>> documentation it is quite a but GNU Arch centric.
>
> The documentation is, but the tool isn't. Actually, DVC started as
> "Xtla", which was _only_ a GNU Arch interface. The tool evolved a lot
> since then, but the documentation is totally outdated :-(.
I wanted then tro try DVC out, but when comiling it I get the
following error message:
Cannot open load file: dvc-site
make[1]: *** [clean-some] Error 255
make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/dvc-snapshot/++build/lisp'
make: *** [dvc] Error 2
GNU Emacs 21.4.1, after running autoconf and ./configure.
Today's snapshot.
--
Jakub Narebski
Poland
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* Re: Google Summer of Code 2008
2008-03-02 16:46 ` Jakub Narebski
@ 2008-03-02 18:05 ` Matthieu Moy
0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Matthieu Moy @ 2008-03-02 18:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jakub Narebski; +Cc: git
Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com> writes:
> [Cc list culled]
>
> On Sun, 2 Mar 2008, Matthieu Moy wrote:
>> Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>> * GNU Emacs git GUI
>>>
>>> Make git mode for Emacs full featured git GUI, and not only commit
>>> tool, following ideas of PCL-CVS... and its limitation. I guess that
>>> DVC (http://download.gna.org/dvc) git mode is one thing to examine
>>> searching for features to implement, but from what I have read in
>>> documentation it is quite a but GNU Arch centric.
>>
>> The documentation is, but the tool isn't. Actually, DVC started as
>> "Xtla", which was _only_ a GNU Arch interface. The tool evolved a lot
>> since then, but the documentation is totally outdated :-(.
>
> I wanted then tro try DVC out, but when comiling it I get the
> following error message:
>
> Cannot open load file: dvc-site
> make[1]: *** [clean-some] Error 255
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/dvc-snapshot/++build/lisp'
> make: *** [dvc] Error 2
>
> GNU Emacs 21.4.1, after running autoconf and ./configure.
> Today's snapshot.
Best is to try the DVC's mailing list. I'm CC-ing it (it's a moderated
list for non-subscribers, your messages will take some time).
I used to be an active DVC contributor, but by lack of time, I didn't
follow closely recent development. I'm not sure Emacs 21 is still
supported (and at least, it's not well tested since most developers
run Emacs 22 themselves).
--
Matthieu
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* Re: Google Summer of Code 2008
2008-02-29 12:04 ` Jakub Narebski
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2008-03-01 23:53 ` Jakub Narebski
@ 2008-03-02 23:04 ` Martin Langhoff
2008-03-02 23:35 ` Johannes Schindelin
3 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Martin Langhoff @ 2008-03-02 23:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jakub Narebski
Cc: Johannes Schindelin, Shawn O. Pearce, Robin Rosenberg, git,
John Hawley
On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 1:04 AM, Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com> wrote:
> A few things changes for us: we have participated in GSoC 2007; we need
> to find backup organization administrator (was: Martin Langhoff for
> GSoC2007), list of mentors would change most probably.
Unfortunately, this year I'm seriously swamped, as I'll probably be
mentoring a few GSoC projects for Moodle and OLPC (due to
http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-February/011314.html ).
Within OLPC I will be using bits and pieces of git, so I may come up
woth something git related.
cheers,
martin
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* Re: Google Summer of Code 2008
2008-03-02 23:04 ` Martin Langhoff
@ 2008-03-02 23:35 ` Johannes Schindelin
0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Johannes Schindelin @ 2008-03-02 23:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Martin Langhoff
Cc: Jakub Narebski, Shawn O. Pearce, Robin Rosenberg, git,
John Hawley
Hi,
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008, Martin Langhoff wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 1:04 AM, Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com> wrote:
> > A few things changes for us: we have participated in GSoC 2007; we need
> > to find backup organization administrator (was: Martin Langhoff for
> > GSoC2007), list of mentors would change most probably.
>
> Unfortunately, this year I'm seriously swamped, as I'll probably be
> mentoring a few GSoC projects for Moodle and OLPC (due to
> http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-February/011314.html ).
> Within OLPC I will be using bits and pieces of git, so I may come up
> woth something git related.
Okay, if all else fails, I volunteer to be the backup admin.
Ciao,
Dscho
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