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From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
Cc: Emily Shaffer <emilyshaffer@google.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Albert Cui <albertcui@google.com>,
	Phillip Wood <phillip.wood123@gmail.com>,
	Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Matheus Tavares Bernardino <matheus.bernardino@usp.br>,
	Jacob Keller <jacob.keller@gmail.com>,
	Atharva Raykar <raykar.ath@gmail.com>,
	Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>,
	Jonathan Tan <jonathantanmy@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 0/5] teach submodules to know they're submodules
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2022 21:35:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <220212.864k53yfws.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YgF5V2Y0Btr8B4cd@google.com>


On Mon, Feb 07 2022, Jonathan Nieder wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 03 2022, Emily Shaffer wrote:
>
>>> To be honest, I'm not all that interested in performance
>>> - I want the config added for correctness, instead.
>>
>> And I'm honestly still at the point of not even being against this whole
>> thing, although it probably sounds like that. I'm really not.
>>
>> I just genuinely don't get where this is headed. I.e. for the last
>> iteration I did a demo patch on top that showed that there was no case
>> added by the series where the on-the-fly discovery wasn't equivalent to
>> the set-in-config value[4].
>
> Here's a few examples:

I've read the downthread, but it's probably best to reply to this...

> 1. Suppose I track my $HOME directory as a git repository.  Within my
>    home directory, I have a src/git/ subdirectory with a clone of
>    git.git, but I never intended to treat this as a submodule.
>
>    If I run "git rev-parse --show-superproject-working-tree", then it
>    will discover my home directory repository, run ls-files in there
>    to see if it has GITLINK entries, and either see one for src/git if
>    I had "git add"ed it by mistake or not see one.  In either case,
>    it would it would view my src/git/ directory as being a submodule
>    of my home directory even though I hadn't intended it to be so.
>
> 2. Suppose I have a copy of a repository such as
>    https://gerrit.googlesource.com/gerrit/, with all its submodules.
>    I am in the plugins/replication/ directory.
>
>    If I run "git rev-parse --show-superproject-working-tree", then it
>    will discover my gerrit repository, run ls-files in there to see if
>    it has GITLINK entries, and use the result to decide whether the
>    cwd is a submodule.  So for example, if I had run "git rm --cached
>    plugins/replication" to _prepare to_ remove the plugins/replication
>    submodule, then "git rev-parse --show-superproject-working-tree"
>    will produce the wrong result.

These both seem like valid edge cases, but they're still going to be the
same edge case on the "parent" side even with a proposed cache (whether
it's a boolean or a path).

I.e. the question here is really not one of caching, but of what it
means for Y to be a submodule of X.

I assumed that we'd prefer a 1=1 relationship between the parent
reporting that Y is a submodule of it, and Y reporting that it is a
submodule (of the parent at some <path>).

If that's the case we can walk up and ask parent .git's whether they
think the <path> is their submodule.

If it's not the case perhaps a config is needed, but then that surely
has wider implications. I.e. won't it be the case that we can't add the
config after-the-fact as this series proposes in those some ambiguous
cases?xo

> 3. Suppose I am not using submodules at all.  I have a clone of
>    mawk.git and I am working there.
>
>    If I run "git rev-parse --show-superproject-working-tree", then I'm
>    presumably interested in doing something submodule-specific;
>    nothing wrong with that.  But the series we're responding to is
>    meant to support a wider variety of operations --- for example,
>    suppose I am running a plain "git status" operation.
>
>    If "git status" runs "git rev-parse
>    --show-superproject-working-tree", then git would walk up the
>    filesystem above my mawk/ directory, looking for another .git dir.
>    We can reach an NFS automounter directory and just hang.  Even
>    without an NFS automounter, we'd expect this to take a while
>    because, unlike normal repository discovery, we have no reason to
>    believe that the walk is going to quickly discover a .git directory
>    and terminate.  So this would violate user expectations.

We have a /a/b/c/d.git mounted, but not a parent /a/b/, and walking
upwards causes it to be mounted?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-02-12 20:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-17  0:56 [PATCH v6 0/5] teach submodules to know they're submodules Emily Shaffer
2021-11-17  0:56 ` [PATCH v6 1/5] t7400-submodule-basic: modernize inspect() helper Emily Shaffer
2021-11-17  0:56 ` [PATCH v6 2/5] introduce submodule.superprojectGitDir record Emily Shaffer
2021-11-17 23:43   ` Jonathan Tan
2021-11-17  0:56 ` [PATCH v6 3/5] submodule: record superproject gitdir during absorbgitdirs Emily Shaffer
2021-11-17  0:57 ` [PATCH v6 4/5] submodule: record superproject gitdir during 'update' Emily Shaffer
2021-11-17  0:57 ` [PATCH v6 5/5] submodule: use config to find superproject worktree Emily Shaffer
2021-11-17 11:43 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] submodule: test what happens if submodule.superprojectGitDir isn't around Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-17 11:43   ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] submodule tests: fix potentially broken "config .. --unset" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-17 11:43   ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] submodule: add test mode for checking absence of "superProjectGitDir" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-23 20:08   ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] submodule: test what happens if submodule.superprojectGitDir isn't around Emily Shaffer
2021-11-24  1:38     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-17 23:28 ` [PATCH v6 0/5] teach submodules to know they're submodules Jonathan Tan
2021-11-23 20:28   ` Emily Shaffer
2022-02-03 21:59 ` Emily Shaffer
2022-02-03 21:59   ` [PATCH v7 1/4] t7400-submodule-basic: modernize inspect() helper Emily Shaffer
2022-02-03 21:59   ` [PATCH v7 2/4] introduce submodule.superprojectGitDir record Emily Shaffer
2022-02-03 21:59   ` [PATCH v7 3/4] submodule: record superproject gitdir during absorbgitdirs Emily Shaffer
2022-02-03 21:59   ` [PATCH v7 4/4] submodule: record superproject gitdir during 'update' Emily Shaffer
2022-02-03 22:39   ` [PATCH v6 0/5] teach submodules to know they're submodules Junio C Hamano
2022-02-04  1:15   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-04 16:20     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-07 19:56     ` Jonathan Nieder
2022-02-07 23:21       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-08  1:18         ` Jonathan Nieder
2022-02-08 18:24           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-10 22:12             ` Emily Shaffer
2022-02-10 22:53               ` Jonathan Nieder
2022-02-12 20:35       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2022-02-13  6:25         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-01  0:26   ` [PATCH v8 0/3] " Emily Shaffer
2022-03-01  0:26     ` [PATCH v8 1/3] t7400-submodule-basic: modernize inspect() helper Emily Shaffer
2022-03-01  0:26     ` [PATCH v8 2/3] introduce submodule.hasSuperproject record Emily Shaffer
2022-03-01  7:00       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-08 20:04         ` Emily Shaffer
2022-03-08 22:13       ` Glen Choo
2022-03-08 22:29         ` Glen Choo
2022-03-01  0:26     ` [PATCH v8 3/3] rev-parse: short-circuit superproject worktree when config unset Emily Shaffer
2022-03-01  7:06       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-09  0:38         ` Emily Shaffer
2022-03-01  3:08     ` [PATCH v8 0/3] teach submodules to know they're submodules Junio C Hamano
2022-03-08 18:54       ` Emily Shaffer
2022-03-10  0:44     ` [PATCH v9 " Emily Shaffer
2022-03-10  0:44       ` [PATCH v9 1/3] t7400-submodule-basic: modernize inspect() helper Emily Shaffer
2022-03-10  0:44       ` [PATCH v9 2/3] introduce submodule.hasSuperproject record Emily Shaffer
2022-03-10  2:09         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-10 21:29           ` Glen Choo
2022-03-10 21:40           ` Glen Choo
2022-03-10 22:10             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-10 23:42               ` Glen Choo
2022-03-10 23:53                 ` Glen Choo
2022-03-15 20:48                   ` Emily Shaffer
2022-03-15 20:56                     ` Emily Shaffer
2022-03-15 21:19                       ` Glen Choo
2022-03-15 18:39               ` Emily Shaffer
2022-03-15 19:19                 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-10  2:32         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-10 21:54         ` Glen Choo
2022-03-15 18:27           ` Emily Shaffer
2022-03-10  0:44       ` [PATCH v9 3/3] rev-parse: short-circuit superproject worktree when config unset Emily Shaffer
2022-03-10  1:47         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-10  4:39           ` Eric Sunshine
2022-03-11  9:09       ` [PATCH v9 0/3] teach submodules to know they're submodules Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-13  5:43         ` Junio C Hamano

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