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From: Jonathan Tan <jonathantanmy@google.com>
To: emilyshaffer@google.com
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, albertcui@google.com,
	phillip.wood123@gmail.com, Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de,
	avarab@gmail.com, gitster@pobox.com, matheus.bernardino@usp.br,
	jrnieder@gmail.com, jacob.keller@gmail.com, raykar.ath@gmail.com,
	stolee@gmail.com, jonathantanmy@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 0/5] teach submodules to know they're submodules
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2021 15:28:46 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211117232846.2596110-1-jonathantanmy@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211117005701.371808-1-emilyshaffer@google.com>

Emily Shaffer <emilyshaffer@google.com> writes:
> For the original cover letter, see
> https://lore.kernel.org/git/20210611225428.1208973-1-emilyshaffer%40google.com.

Also for reference, v4 and v5 (as a reply to v4) can be found here:
https://lore.kernel.org/git/20211014203416.2802639-1-emilyshaffer@google.com/

> Since v5:
> 
> A couple things. Firstly, a semantics change *back* to the semantics of
> v3 - we map from gitdir to gitdir, *not* from common dir to common dir,
> so that theoretically a submodule with multiple worktrees in multiple
> superproject worktrees will be able to figure out which worktree of the
> superproject it's in. (Realistically, that's not really possible right
> now, but I'd like to change that soon.)

Makes sense. Also, thanks for the tests covering what happens when this
is run from worktrees.

> Secondly, a rewording of comments and commit messages to indicate that
> this isn't a cache of some expensive operation, but rather intended to
> be the source of truth for all submodules. I also added a fifth commit
> rewriting `git rev-parse --show-superproject-working-tree` to
> demonstrate what that means in practice - but from a practical
> standpoint, I'm a little worried about that fifth patch. More details in
> the patch 5 description.

OK - this is not the "this variable being missing is OK" idea that I had
[1], but we want to be able to depend on it to some extent. (And it is
not a cache either - we are not planning to perform an operation to
obtain the superproject gitdir if the cache is missing, but we are just
going to assume that there is no superproject.)

To that end, the 5th patch is misleading - it is behaving exactly like a
cache. I think it's better to drop it.

What would make sense to me (and seems to be in the spirit of this patch
set) is to describe this as something that Git commands can rely on to
determine if the current repo is a submodule, for performance reasons.
So maybe Git commands/parameters that directly reference the submodule
concept like "--show-superproject-working-tree" will work hard to find
the superproject (by searching the filesystem), but those that do not
(e.g. "git status") can make assumptions.

Making this variable a source of truth wouldn't work, I think, because
the source of truth is whether this repo appears in a .gitmodules file
(and that hasn't changed).

To this end, I'll comment on the changes I'd like to see on the
individual patches too.

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/git/20210727174650.2462099-1-jonathantanmy@google.com/

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-11-17 23:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-17  0:56 [PATCH v6 0/5] teach submodules to know they're submodules Emily Shaffer
2021-11-17  0:56 ` [PATCH v6 1/5] t7400-submodule-basic: modernize inspect() helper Emily Shaffer
2021-11-17  0:56 ` [PATCH v6 2/5] introduce submodule.superprojectGitDir record Emily Shaffer
2021-11-17 23:43   ` Jonathan Tan
2021-11-17  0:56 ` [PATCH v6 3/5] submodule: record superproject gitdir during absorbgitdirs Emily Shaffer
2021-11-17  0:57 ` [PATCH v6 4/5] submodule: record superproject gitdir during 'update' Emily Shaffer
2021-11-17  0:57 ` [PATCH v6 5/5] submodule: use config to find superproject worktree Emily Shaffer
2021-11-17 11:43 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] submodule: test what happens if submodule.superprojectGitDir isn't around Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-17 11:43   ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] submodule tests: fix potentially broken "config .. --unset" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-17 11:43   ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] submodule: add test mode for checking absence of "superProjectGitDir" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-23 20:08   ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] submodule: test what happens if submodule.superprojectGitDir isn't around Emily Shaffer
2021-11-24  1:38     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-17 23:28 ` Jonathan Tan [this message]
2021-11-23 20:28   ` [PATCH v6 0/5] teach submodules to know they're submodules Emily Shaffer
2022-02-03 21:59 ` Emily Shaffer
2022-02-03 21:59   ` [PATCH v7 1/4] t7400-submodule-basic: modernize inspect() helper Emily Shaffer
2022-02-03 21:59   ` [PATCH v7 2/4] introduce submodule.superprojectGitDir record Emily Shaffer
2022-02-03 21:59   ` [PATCH v7 3/4] submodule: record superproject gitdir during absorbgitdirs Emily Shaffer
2022-02-03 21:59   ` [PATCH v7 4/4] submodule: record superproject gitdir during 'update' Emily Shaffer
2022-02-03 22:39   ` [PATCH v6 0/5] teach submodules to know they're submodules Junio C Hamano
2022-02-04  1:15   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-04 16:20     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-07 19:56     ` Jonathan Nieder
2022-02-07 23:21       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-08  1:18         ` Jonathan Nieder
2022-02-08 18:24           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-10 22:12             ` Emily Shaffer
2022-02-10 22:53               ` Jonathan Nieder
2022-02-12 20:35       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-13  6:25         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-01  0:26   ` [PATCH v8 0/3] " Emily Shaffer
2022-03-01  0:26     ` [PATCH v8 1/3] t7400-submodule-basic: modernize inspect() helper Emily Shaffer
2022-03-01  0:26     ` [PATCH v8 2/3] introduce submodule.hasSuperproject record Emily Shaffer
2022-03-01  7:00       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-08 20:04         ` Emily Shaffer
2022-03-08 22:13       ` Glen Choo
2022-03-08 22:29         ` Glen Choo
2022-03-01  0:26     ` [PATCH v8 3/3] rev-parse: short-circuit superproject worktree when config unset Emily Shaffer
2022-03-01  7:06       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-09  0:38         ` Emily Shaffer
2022-03-01  3:08     ` [PATCH v8 0/3] teach submodules to know they're submodules Junio C Hamano
2022-03-08 18:54       ` Emily Shaffer
2022-03-10  0:44     ` [PATCH v9 " Emily Shaffer
2022-03-10  0:44       ` [PATCH v9 1/3] t7400-submodule-basic: modernize inspect() helper Emily Shaffer
2022-03-10  0:44       ` [PATCH v9 2/3] introduce submodule.hasSuperproject record Emily Shaffer
2022-03-10  2:09         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-10 21:29           ` Glen Choo
2022-03-10 21:40           ` Glen Choo
2022-03-10 22:10             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-10 23:42               ` Glen Choo
2022-03-10 23:53                 ` Glen Choo
2022-03-15 20:48                   ` Emily Shaffer
2022-03-15 20:56                     ` Emily Shaffer
2022-03-15 21:19                       ` Glen Choo
2022-03-15 18:39               ` Emily Shaffer
2022-03-15 19:19                 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-10  2:32         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-10 21:54         ` Glen Choo
2022-03-15 18:27           ` Emily Shaffer
2022-03-10  0:44       ` [PATCH v9 3/3] rev-parse: short-circuit superproject worktree when config unset Emily Shaffer
2022-03-10  1:47         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-03-10  4:39           ` Eric Sunshine
2022-03-11  9:09       ` [PATCH v9 0/3] teach submodules to know they're submodules Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-13  5:43         ` Junio C Hamano

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