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From: Emily Shaffer <emilyshaffer@google.com>
To: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
Cc: Jonathan Tan <jonathantanmy@google.com>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 8/9] commit: use config-based hooks
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2020 12:08:42 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201006190842.GJ331156@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201005234839.GF1393696@google.com>

On Mon, Oct 05, 2020 at 04:48:39PM -0700, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
> 
> Emily Shaffer wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 04:47:34PM -0700, Jonathan Tan wrote:
> 
> >>  - As for whether (1) it is OK for none of the hooks to be converted (and
> >>    instead rely on the user to edit their hook scripts to call "git hook
> >>    run ???"), or if (2) we should require some hooks to be
> >>    converted, or if (3) we should require all hooks to be converted: I'd
> >>    rather have (2) or (3) so that we don't have dead code. I prefer (3),
> >>    especially since a reviewer wouldn't have to worry about leftover
> >>    usages of old functions like find_hook() (as I mentioned at the start
> >>    of this email), but I'm not fully opposed to (2) either.
> >
> > I personally prefer (3) - I think the user experience with (2) in a
> > release (or even in 'next', which all Googlers use) is pretty bad. The
> > downside, of course, is that a large topic gets merged all at once and
> > makes some pretty nasty reviewer overhead.
> 
> One approach is to build up a series with "git hook run" and "git hook
> list" demonstrating and testing the functionality and [PATCH n+1/n]
> extra patches at the end converting existing hooks.  The user
> experience from "git hook run" and even "git hook list" supporting a
> preview of the future without built-in commands living in that future
> yet would not be so bad, methinks.  And then a final series could
> update the built-in commands' usage of hooks and would still be fairly
> small.
> 
> In other words, I think I like (1), except *without* the
> recommendation for users to edit their hook scripts to call "git hook
> run" --- instead, the recommendation would be "try running this
> command if you want to see what hooks will do in the future".

Ok. I'll fix up the wording in the design doc and follow through with my
plan to split the series into two parts.

 - Emily

  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-06 19:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 170+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-21 18:54 [PATCH v2 0/4] propose config-based hooks Emily Shaffer
2020-05-21 18:54 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] doc: propose hooks managed by the config Emily Shaffer
2020-05-22 10:13   ` Phillip Wood
2020-06-09 20:26     ` Emily Shaffer
2020-05-21 18:54 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] hook: scaffolding for git-hook subcommand Emily Shaffer
2020-05-21 18:54 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] hook: add list command Emily Shaffer
2020-05-22 10:27   ` Phillip Wood
2020-06-09 21:49     ` Emily Shaffer
2020-08-17 13:36       ` Phillip Wood
2020-05-24 23:00   ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-05-27 23:37     ` Emily Shaffer
2020-05-21 18:54 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] hook: add --porcelain to " Emily Shaffer
2020-05-24 23:00   ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-05-25  0:29     ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-07-28 22:24 ` [PATCH v3 0/6] propose config-based hooks Emily Shaffer
2020-07-28 22:24   ` [PATCH v3 1/6] doc: propose hooks managed by the config Emily Shaffer
2020-07-28 22:24   ` [PATCH v3 2/6] hook: scaffolding for git-hook subcommand Emily Shaffer
2020-07-28 22:24   ` [PATCH v3 3/6] hook: add list command Emily Shaffer
2020-07-28 22:24   ` [PATCH v3 4/6] hook: add --porcelain to " Emily Shaffer
2020-07-28 22:24   ` [RFC PATCH v3 5/6] parse-options: parse into argv_array Emily Shaffer
2020-07-29 19:33     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-07-30 23:41       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-07-28 22:24   ` [RFC PATCH v3 6/6] hook: add 'run' subcommand Emily Shaffer
2020-09-09  0:49   ` [PATCH v4 0/9] propose config-based hooks Emily Shaffer
2020-09-09  0:49     ` [PATCH v4 1/9] doc: propose hooks managed by the config Emily Shaffer
2020-09-23 22:59       ` Jonathan Tan
2020-09-24 21:54         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-10-07  9:23       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2020-10-22  0:58         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-10-23 19:10           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2020-10-29 15:38             ` Emily Shaffer
2020-10-29 20:04               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2020-09-09  0:49     ` [PATCH v4 2/9] hook: scaffolding for git-hook subcommand Emily Shaffer
2020-10-05 23:24       ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-10-06 19:06         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-09-09  0:49     ` [PATCH v4 3/9] hook: add list command Emily Shaffer
2020-09-11 13:27       ` Phillip Wood
2020-09-11 16:51         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-09-23 23:04       ` Jonathan Tan
2020-10-06 20:46         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-09-27 19:23       ` Martin Ågren
2020-10-06 20:20         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-10-05 23:27       ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-09-09  0:49     ` [PATCH v4 4/9] hook: add --porcelain to " Emily Shaffer
2020-09-28 19:29       ` Josh Steadmon
2020-09-09  0:49     ` [PATCH v4 5/9] parse-options: parse into strvec Emily Shaffer
2020-10-05 23:30       ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-10-06  4:49         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-09-09  0:49     ` [PATCH v4 6/9] hook: add 'run' subcommand Emily Shaffer
2020-09-11 13:30       ` Phillip Wood
2020-09-28 19:29       ` Josh Steadmon
2020-10-05 23:39       ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-10-06 22:57         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-09-09  0:49     ` [PATCH v4 7/9] hook: replace run-command.h:find_hook Emily Shaffer
2020-09-09 20:32       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-09-10 19:08         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-09-23 23:20       ` Jonathan Tan
2020-10-05 23:42       ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-09-09  0:49     ` [PATCH v4 8/9] commit: use config-based hooks Emily Shaffer
2020-09-10 13:50       ` Phillip Wood
2020-09-10 22:21         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-09-23 23:47       ` Jonathan Tan
2020-10-05 21:27         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-10-05 23:48           ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-10-06 19:08             ` Emily Shaffer [this message]
2020-09-09  0:49     ` [PATCH v4 9/9] run_commit_hook: take strvec instead of varargs Emily Shaffer
2020-09-10 14:16       ` Phillip Wood
2020-09-11 13:20         ` Phillip Wood
2020-09-09 21:04     ` [PATCH v4 0/9] propose config-based hooks Junio C Hamano
2020-10-14 23:24     ` [PATCH v5 0/8] propose config-based hooks (part I) Emily Shaffer
2020-10-14 23:24       ` [PATCH v5 1/8] doc: propose hooks managed by the config Emily Shaffer
2020-10-15 16:31         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2020-10-16 17:29           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-21 23:37           ` Emily Shaffer
2020-10-14 23:24       ` [PATCH v5 2/8] hook: scaffolding for git-hook subcommand Emily Shaffer
2020-10-14 23:24       ` [PATCH v5 3/8] hook: add list command Emily Shaffer
2020-10-14 23:24       ` [PATCH v5 4/8] hook: include hookdir hook in list Emily Shaffer
2020-10-14 23:24       ` [PATCH v5 5/8] hook: implement hookcmd.<name>.skip Emily Shaffer
2020-10-14 23:24       ` [PATCH v5 6/8] parse-options: parse into strvec Emily Shaffer
2020-10-14 23:24       ` [PATCH v5 7/8] hook: add 'run' subcommand Emily Shaffer
2020-10-14 23:24       ` [PATCH v5 8/8] hook: replace find_hook() with hook_exists() Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:45       ` [PATCH v6 00/17] propose config-based hooks (part I) Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:45         ` [PATCH 01/17] doc: propose hooks managed by the config Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:45         ` [PATCH 02/17] hook: scaffolding for git-hook subcommand Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:45         ` [PATCH 03/17] hook: add list command Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:45         ` [PATCH 04/17] hook: include hookdir hook in list Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:45         ` [PATCH 05/17] hook: respect hook.runHookDir Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:45         ` [PATCH 06/17] hook: implement hookcmd.<name>.skip Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:45         ` [PATCH 07/17] parse-options: parse into strvec Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:45         ` [PATCH 08/17] hook: add 'run' subcommand Emily Shaffer
2020-12-11 10:15           ` Phillip Wood
2020-12-15 21:41             ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:45         ` [PATCH 09/17] hook: replace find_hook() with hook_exists() Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:46         ` [PATCH 10/17] hook: support passing stdin to hooks Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:46         ` [PATCH 11/17] run-command: allow stdin for run_processes_parallel Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:46         ` [PATCH 12/17] hook: allow parallel hook execution Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:46         ` [PATCH 13/17] hook: allow specifying working directory for hooks Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:46         ` [PATCH 14/17] run-command: add stdin callback for parallelization Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:46         ` [PATCH 15/17] hook: provide stdin by string_list or callback Emily Shaffer
2020-12-08 21:09           ` SZEDER Gábor
2020-12-08 22:11             ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:46         ` [PATCH 16/17] run-command: allow capturing of collated output Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:46         ` [PATCH 17/17] hooks: allow callers to capture output Emily Shaffer
2020-12-16  0:34         ` [PATCH v6 00/17] propose config-based hooks (part I) Josh Steadmon
2020-12-16  0:56           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-16 20:16             ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-16 23:32               ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-18  2:07                 ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-18  5:29                   ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-22  0:02         ` [PATCH v7 " Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 01/17] doc: propose hooks managed by the config Emily Shaffer
2021-01-23 15:38             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-01-29 23:52               ` Emily Shaffer
2021-02-01 22:11             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-10 19:30               ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 02/17] hook: scaffolding for git-hook subcommand Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 03/17] hook: add list command Emily Shaffer
2021-01-31  3:10             ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-09 21:06               ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 04/17] hook: include hookdir hook in list Emily Shaffer
2021-01-31  3:20             ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-09 22:05               ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 05/17] hook: respect hook.runHookDir Emily Shaffer
2021-01-31  3:35             ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-09 22:31               ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 06/17] hook: implement hookcmd.<name>.skip Emily Shaffer
2021-01-31  3:40             ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-09 22:57               ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 07/17] parse-options: parse into strvec Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 08/17] hook: add 'run' subcommand Emily Shaffer
2021-01-31  4:22             ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-11 22:44               ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 09/17] hook: replace find_hook() with hook_exists() Emily Shaffer
2021-01-31  4:39             ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-12 22:15               ` Emily Shaffer
2021-02-18 22:23               ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 10/17] hook: support passing stdin to hooks Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 11/17] run-command: allow stdin for run_processes_parallel Emily Shaffer
2021-02-01  5:38             ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-19 20:23               ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 12/17] hook: allow parallel hook execution Emily Shaffer
2021-02-01  6:04             ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-22 21:46               ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 13/17] hook: allow specifying working directory for hooks Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 14/17] run-command: add stdin callback for parallelization Emily Shaffer
2021-02-01  6:51             ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-22 23:38               ` Emily Shaffer
2021-02-23 19:33                 ` Jonathan Tan
2021-03-10 18:24                   ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 15/17] hook: provide stdin by string_list or callback Emily Shaffer
2021-02-01  7:04             ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-23 19:52               ` Emily Shaffer
2021-02-25 20:56                 ` Jonathan Tan
2021-03-02  1:47                   ` Emily Shaffer
2021-03-02 23:33                     ` Jonathan Tan
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 16/17] run-command: allow capturing of collated output Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 17/17] hooks: allow callers to capture output Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  2:11           ` [PATCH v7 00/17] propose config-based hooks (part I) Junio C Hamano
2020-12-28 18:34             ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-28 22:50               ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-28 22:37           ` [PATCH v3 18/17] doc: make git-hook.txt point of truth Emily Shaffer
2020-12-28 22:39             ` Emily Shaffer
2021-01-29 23:59           ` [PATCH v7 00/17] propose config-based hooks (part I) Emily Shaffer
2021-02-16 19:46           ` Josh Steadmon
2021-02-16 22:47             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-17 21:21               ` Josh Steadmon
2021-02-17 23:07                 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-25 19:50                   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-01 21:51                     ` Emily Shaffer
2021-03-01 22:19                       ` Junio C Hamano

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