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From: Emily Shaffer <emilyshaffer@google.com>
To: Jonathan Tan <jonathantanmy@google.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/9] doc: propose hooks managed by the config
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 14:54:11 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200924215411.GG331156@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200923225910.1276940-1-jonathantanmy@google.com>

On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 03:59:10PM -0700, Jonathan Tan wrote:
> 
> For this review, I'll just concern myself with overall design and
> structure.

Thanks - the design doc is now slightly old, so it's nice to have some
fresh eyes on it.

> 
> For this patch, overall I think it's better if there's a clear
> distinction between what we are implementing now and what we are
> implementing later.

I took a light hand when I checked for this - the topic isn't complete
yet, and there's some work in the design doc which I want to include in
this topic, but which hasn't been sent around (or written) yet.

> 
> > +[[motivation]]
> > +== Motivation
> > +
> > +Treat hooks as a first-class citizen by replacing the .git/hook/hookname path as
> > +the only source of hooks to execute, in a way which is friendly to users with
> > +multiple repos which have similar needs.
> 
> I don't understand what "first-class citizen" here means - probably
> better to just omit that phrase and describe the new way of doing hooks.

Sure.

> 
> > +[[config-schema-hook]]
> > +==== `hook`
> > +
> > +Primarily contains subsections for each hook event. These order of these
> > +subsections defines the hook command execution order
> 
> The execution order is defined by the order of a multivalue config
> variable, I think, not the order of subsections? Besides, I believe that
> there's one subsection per hook event (e.g. hook."pre-commit"), not one
> subsection per command.

Ok. Have changed to "The order of variables in these subsections
defines..."

> 
> > ; hook commands can be
> > +specified by setting the value directly to the command if no additional
> > +configuration is needed, or by setting the value as the name of a `hookcmd`. If
> > +Git does not find a `hookcmd` whose subsection matches the value of the given
> > +command string, Git will try to execute the string directly. Hooks are executed
> > +by passing the resolved command string to the shell.
> 
> [snip]
> 
> > Hook event subsections can
> > +also contain per-hook-event settings.
> 
> If this is not yet implemented, maybe list under "future work".

Good idea. Done.

> 
> > +
> > +Also contains top-level hook execution settings, for example,
> > +`hook.warnHookDir`, `hook.runHookDir`, or `hook.disableAll`. (These settings are
> > +described more in <<library,Library>>.)
> 
> I think it's clearer if you list this under "future work" - I didn't see
> any implementation of this.

Yeah, this is out of sync with what the implementation ended up looking
like; disableAll might still be a useful thing to include in the initial
feature topic, so I won't remove it, but warnHookDir is not necessary.

> 
> > +[hook "pre-commit"]
> > +  command = perl-linter
> > +  command = /usr/bin/git-secrets --pre-commit
> > +
> > +[hook "pre-applypatch"]
> > +  command = perl-linter
> > +  error = ignore
> 
> Is "error" implemented?

No, have marked it with a comment.

> 
> > +
> > +[hook]
> > +  runHookDir = interactive
> 
> Same question for "runHookDir".

It is in the reroll I'm trying to get out this week :)

> 
> > +[[config-schema-hookcmd]]
> > +==== `hookcmd`
> > +
> > +Defines a hook command and its attributes, which will be used when a hook event
> > +occurs. Unqualified attributes are assumed to apply to this hook during all hook
> > +events, but event-specific attributes can also be supplied. The example runs
> > +`/usr/bin/lint-it --language=perl <args passed by Git>`, but for repos which
> > +include this config, the hook command will be skipped for all events to which
> > +it's normally subscribed _except_ `pre-commit`.
> > +
> > +----
> > +[hookcmd "perl-linter"]
> > +  command = /usr/bin/lint-it --language=perl
> > +  skip = true
> > +  pre-commit-skip = false
> > +----
> 
> And the skips. (And several more below which I will skip.)

Again, this is in the reroll I'm working on.

> 
> > +If the caller wants to do something more complicated, the hook library can also
> > +provide a callback API:
> > +
> > +*`int for_each_hookcmd(const char *hookname, hookcmd_function *cb)`*
> 
> Is there a use case that would need such a function?

I'm not sure yet - but I'm not quite ready to cut it from the design
doc, until I finish migrating the existing hooks and know that it's not
needed. At that point it'll make sense to move it into the future work
section.

> 
> > +[[migration]]
> > +=== Migration path
> > +
> > +[[stage-0]]
> > +==== Stage 0
> > +
> > +Hooks are called by running `run-command.h:find_hook()` with the hookname and
> > +executing the result. The hook library and builtin do not exist. Hooks only
> > +exist as specially named scripts within `.git/hooks/`.
> > +
> > +[[stage-1]]
> > +==== Stage 1
> > +
> > +`git hook list --porcelain <hook-event>` is implemented. Users can replace their
> > +`.git/hooks/<hook-event>` scripts with a trampoline based on `git hook list`'s
> > +output. Modifier commands like `git hook add` and `git hook edit` can be
> > +implemented around this time as well.
> 
> This seems to contradict patch 8, which teaches Git to use the configs
> directly without any change to .git/hooks/<hook-event> (at least for
> certain commit-related hooks).

Yeah, I think this needs to be rephrased; at this point locally I've
completely removed the --porcelain patch - I'm pretty sure it needs to
be a format string instead.

> 
> > +[[future-work]]
> > +== Future work
> > +
> > +[[execution-ordering]]
> > +=== Execution ordering
> > +
> > +We may find that config order is insufficient for some users; for example,
> > +config order makes it difficult to add a new hook to the system or global config
> > +which runs at the end of the hook list. A new ordering schema should be:
> > +
> > +1) Specified by a `hook.order` config, so that users will not unexpectedly see
> > +their order change;
> > +
> > +2) Either dependency or numerically based.
> > +
> > +Dependency-based ordering is prone to classic linked-list problems, like a
> > +cycles and handling of missing dependencies. But, it paves the way for enabling
> > +parallelization if some tasks truly depend on others.
> > +
> > +Numerical ordering makes it tricky for Git to generate suggested ordering
> > +numbers for each command, but is easy to determine a definitive order.
> 
> With this schema, and with the "skip" behavior described above (but not
> implemented in this patch set), rudimentary ordering can already be
> done; because a hook is removed and reinserted whenever it appears in
> the config, even a hook X in the system config can be made to run after a
> hook Y in the worktree config by adding Y then X in the worktree config,
> and if we want to disable X instead, we can just add "skip" to X.

Yep, that's why reordering is in the future work section :)

The problem with config ordering is like such: if I want everyone in
my enterprise to run 'git-secrets --prepare-commit-msg' as the very last
prepare-commit-msg hook, but I can only ship them an /etc/gitconfig,
then the best I can do is email my users and ask them to run 'git config
hook.prepare-commit-msg.command git-secrets-prepare-commit-msg' in every
new repo and include a 'hookcmd.git-secrets-prepare-commit-msg.command'
config in the /etc/gitconfig I ship. (I mention git-secrets here because
it's possible other hooks could have introduced credential secrets into
my user's commit message after git-secrets already ran.)

 - Emily

  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-24 21:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 170+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-21 18:54 [PATCH v2 0/4] propose config-based hooks Emily Shaffer
2020-05-21 18:54 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] doc: propose hooks managed by the config Emily Shaffer
2020-05-22 10:13   ` Phillip Wood
2020-06-09 20:26     ` Emily Shaffer
2020-05-21 18:54 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] hook: scaffolding for git-hook subcommand Emily Shaffer
2020-05-21 18:54 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] hook: add list command Emily Shaffer
2020-05-22 10:27   ` Phillip Wood
2020-06-09 21:49     ` Emily Shaffer
2020-08-17 13:36       ` Phillip Wood
2020-05-24 23:00   ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-05-27 23:37     ` Emily Shaffer
2020-05-21 18:54 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] hook: add --porcelain to " Emily Shaffer
2020-05-24 23:00   ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-05-25  0:29     ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-07-28 22:24 ` [PATCH v3 0/6] propose config-based hooks Emily Shaffer
2020-07-28 22:24   ` [PATCH v3 1/6] doc: propose hooks managed by the config Emily Shaffer
2020-07-28 22:24   ` [PATCH v3 2/6] hook: scaffolding for git-hook subcommand Emily Shaffer
2020-07-28 22:24   ` [PATCH v3 3/6] hook: add list command Emily Shaffer
2020-07-28 22:24   ` [PATCH v3 4/6] hook: add --porcelain to " Emily Shaffer
2020-07-28 22:24   ` [RFC PATCH v3 5/6] parse-options: parse into argv_array Emily Shaffer
2020-07-29 19:33     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-07-30 23:41       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-07-28 22:24   ` [RFC PATCH v3 6/6] hook: add 'run' subcommand Emily Shaffer
2020-09-09  0:49   ` [PATCH v4 0/9] propose config-based hooks Emily Shaffer
2020-09-09  0:49     ` [PATCH v4 1/9] doc: propose hooks managed by the config Emily Shaffer
2020-09-23 22:59       ` Jonathan Tan
2020-09-24 21:54         ` Emily Shaffer [this message]
2020-10-07  9:23       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2020-10-22  0:58         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-10-23 19:10           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2020-10-29 15:38             ` Emily Shaffer
2020-10-29 20:04               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2020-09-09  0:49     ` [PATCH v4 2/9] hook: scaffolding for git-hook subcommand Emily Shaffer
2020-10-05 23:24       ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-10-06 19:06         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-09-09  0:49     ` [PATCH v4 3/9] hook: add list command Emily Shaffer
2020-09-11 13:27       ` Phillip Wood
2020-09-11 16:51         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-09-23 23:04       ` Jonathan Tan
2020-10-06 20:46         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-09-27 19:23       ` Martin Ågren
2020-10-06 20:20         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-10-05 23:27       ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-09-09  0:49     ` [PATCH v4 4/9] hook: add --porcelain to " Emily Shaffer
2020-09-28 19:29       ` Josh Steadmon
2020-09-09  0:49     ` [PATCH v4 5/9] parse-options: parse into strvec Emily Shaffer
2020-10-05 23:30       ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-10-06  4:49         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-09-09  0:49     ` [PATCH v4 6/9] hook: add 'run' subcommand Emily Shaffer
2020-09-11 13:30       ` Phillip Wood
2020-09-28 19:29       ` Josh Steadmon
2020-10-05 23:39       ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-10-06 22:57         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-09-09  0:49     ` [PATCH v4 7/9] hook: replace run-command.h:find_hook Emily Shaffer
2020-09-09 20:32       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-09-10 19:08         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-09-23 23:20       ` Jonathan Tan
2020-10-05 23:42       ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-09-09  0:49     ` [PATCH v4 8/9] commit: use config-based hooks Emily Shaffer
2020-09-10 13:50       ` Phillip Wood
2020-09-10 22:21         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-09-23 23:47       ` Jonathan Tan
2020-10-05 21:27         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-10-05 23:48           ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-10-06 19:08             ` Emily Shaffer
2020-09-09  0:49     ` [PATCH v4 9/9] run_commit_hook: take strvec instead of varargs Emily Shaffer
2020-09-10 14:16       ` Phillip Wood
2020-09-11 13:20         ` Phillip Wood
2020-09-09 21:04     ` [PATCH v4 0/9] propose config-based hooks Junio C Hamano
2020-10-14 23:24     ` [PATCH v5 0/8] propose config-based hooks (part I) Emily Shaffer
2020-10-14 23:24       ` [PATCH v5 1/8] doc: propose hooks managed by the config Emily Shaffer
2020-10-15 16:31         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2020-10-16 17:29           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-21 23:37           ` Emily Shaffer
2020-10-14 23:24       ` [PATCH v5 2/8] hook: scaffolding for git-hook subcommand Emily Shaffer
2020-10-14 23:24       ` [PATCH v5 3/8] hook: add list command Emily Shaffer
2020-10-14 23:24       ` [PATCH v5 4/8] hook: include hookdir hook in list Emily Shaffer
2020-10-14 23:24       ` [PATCH v5 5/8] hook: implement hookcmd.<name>.skip Emily Shaffer
2020-10-14 23:24       ` [PATCH v5 6/8] parse-options: parse into strvec Emily Shaffer
2020-10-14 23:24       ` [PATCH v5 7/8] hook: add 'run' subcommand Emily Shaffer
2020-10-14 23:24       ` [PATCH v5 8/8] hook: replace find_hook() with hook_exists() Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:45       ` [PATCH v6 00/17] propose config-based hooks (part I) Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:45         ` [PATCH 01/17] doc: propose hooks managed by the config Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:45         ` [PATCH 02/17] hook: scaffolding for git-hook subcommand Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:45         ` [PATCH 03/17] hook: add list command Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:45         ` [PATCH 04/17] hook: include hookdir hook in list Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:45         ` [PATCH 05/17] hook: respect hook.runHookDir Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:45         ` [PATCH 06/17] hook: implement hookcmd.<name>.skip Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:45         ` [PATCH 07/17] parse-options: parse into strvec Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:45         ` [PATCH 08/17] hook: add 'run' subcommand Emily Shaffer
2020-12-11 10:15           ` Phillip Wood
2020-12-15 21:41             ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:45         ` [PATCH 09/17] hook: replace find_hook() with hook_exists() Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:46         ` [PATCH 10/17] hook: support passing stdin to hooks Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:46         ` [PATCH 11/17] run-command: allow stdin for run_processes_parallel Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:46         ` [PATCH 12/17] hook: allow parallel hook execution Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:46         ` [PATCH 13/17] hook: allow specifying working directory for hooks Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:46         ` [PATCH 14/17] run-command: add stdin callback for parallelization Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:46         ` [PATCH 15/17] hook: provide stdin by string_list or callback Emily Shaffer
2020-12-08 21:09           ` SZEDER Gábor
2020-12-08 22:11             ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:46         ` [PATCH 16/17] run-command: allow capturing of collated output Emily Shaffer
2020-12-05  1:46         ` [PATCH 17/17] hooks: allow callers to capture output Emily Shaffer
2020-12-16  0:34         ` [PATCH v6 00/17] propose config-based hooks (part I) Josh Steadmon
2020-12-16  0:56           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-16 20:16             ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-16 23:32               ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-18  2:07                 ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-18  5:29                   ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-22  0:02         ` [PATCH v7 " Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 01/17] doc: propose hooks managed by the config Emily Shaffer
2021-01-23 15:38             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-01-29 23:52               ` Emily Shaffer
2021-02-01 22:11             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-10 19:30               ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 02/17] hook: scaffolding for git-hook subcommand Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 03/17] hook: add list command Emily Shaffer
2021-01-31  3:10             ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-09 21:06               ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 04/17] hook: include hookdir hook in list Emily Shaffer
2021-01-31  3:20             ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-09 22:05               ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 05/17] hook: respect hook.runHookDir Emily Shaffer
2021-01-31  3:35             ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-09 22:31               ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 06/17] hook: implement hookcmd.<name>.skip Emily Shaffer
2021-01-31  3:40             ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-09 22:57               ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 07/17] parse-options: parse into strvec Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 08/17] hook: add 'run' subcommand Emily Shaffer
2021-01-31  4:22             ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-11 22:44               ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 09/17] hook: replace find_hook() with hook_exists() Emily Shaffer
2021-01-31  4:39             ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-12 22:15               ` Emily Shaffer
2021-02-18 22:23               ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 10/17] hook: support passing stdin to hooks Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 11/17] run-command: allow stdin for run_processes_parallel Emily Shaffer
2021-02-01  5:38             ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-19 20:23               ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 12/17] hook: allow parallel hook execution Emily Shaffer
2021-02-01  6:04             ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-22 21:46               ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 13/17] hook: allow specifying working directory for hooks Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 14/17] run-command: add stdin callback for parallelization Emily Shaffer
2021-02-01  6:51             ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-22 23:38               ` Emily Shaffer
2021-02-23 19:33                 ` Jonathan Tan
2021-03-10 18:24                   ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 15/17] hook: provide stdin by string_list or callback Emily Shaffer
2021-02-01  7:04             ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-23 19:52               ` Emily Shaffer
2021-02-25 20:56                 ` Jonathan Tan
2021-03-02  1:47                   ` Emily Shaffer
2021-03-02 23:33                     ` Jonathan Tan
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 16/17] run-command: allow capturing of collated output Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  0:02           ` [PATCH v7 17/17] hooks: allow callers to capture output Emily Shaffer
2020-12-22  2:11           ` [PATCH v7 00/17] propose config-based hooks (part I) Junio C Hamano
2020-12-28 18:34             ` Emily Shaffer
2020-12-28 22:50               ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-28 22:37           ` [PATCH v3 18/17] doc: make git-hook.txt point of truth Emily Shaffer
2020-12-28 22:39             ` Emily Shaffer
2021-01-29 23:59           ` [PATCH v7 00/17] propose config-based hooks (part I) Emily Shaffer
2021-02-16 19:46           ` Josh Steadmon
2021-02-16 22:47             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-17 21:21               ` Josh Steadmon
2021-02-17 23:07                 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-25 19:50                   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-01 21:51                     ` Emily Shaffer
2021-03-01 22:19                       ` Junio C Hamano

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