From: "SZEDER Gábor" <szeder.dev@gmail.com>
To: Emily Shaffer <emilyshaffer@google.com>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
git@vger.kernel.org, Denton Liu <liu.denton@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] MyFirstContribution: add avenues for getting help
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 19:49:19 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191119184919.GM23183@szeder.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191118214519.GH22855@google.com>
On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 01:45:19PM -0800, Emily Shaffer wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 12:05:45PM +0900, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> > > +==== https://public-inbox.org/git[git@vger.kernel.org]
> > > +
> > > +This is the main Git project mailing list where code reviews, version
> > > +announcements, design discussions, and more take place. If you fail to receive
> > > +help via the channels above, you can ask your question here. The Git list
> > > +requires plain-text-only emails and prefers inline and bottom-posting when
> > > +replying to mail; you will be CC'd in all replies to you. Optionally, you can
> > > +subscribe to the list by sending an email to majordomo@vger.kernel.org with
> > > +"subscribe git" in the body.
> >
> > Sounds good; I agree with Denton, especially with the mention of
> > "you must join" on the other mailing list, that it is a good idea to
> > explicitly say that subscription is optional in this entry.
> >
> > You can ask questions even if you haven't tried other avenues and
> > failed, but this entry makes it sound as if an earlier failure
> > elsewhere is a prerequisite for asking for help here.
>
> I envision an exchange sort of like this:
>
> Newbie to git@vger.kernel.org: "I'm having trouble compiling Git and I
> want to write a patch, I'm getting X error"
>
> Veteran to Newbie, cc git-mentoring, bcc git@vger.kernel.org:
> "Please build with blah flag and paste console output, plus let us know
> system information blah blah blah"
That won't work if the veteran is not registered to the mentoring
list, and we can't assume that the newbie is registered there either.
I don't think that we should send anyone who asked a question here to
somewhere else, especially if that elsewhere requires registration.
> I don't mind the idea of pushing folks to ask on the mentoring list
> first. It's pretty well attended already - just now I count 16 list
> members, a pretty significant majority of which are project veterans. I
> have no problem suggesting newbies ask their questions, which others
> probably had and solved before them, in a space separate from the main
> mailing list.
>
> Of course if you want to encourage newbies to ask in any of these three
> venues, weighted equally, I can change the language. But suggesting the
> main list as a last resort was intentional.
git@vger is the ultimate source of all wisdom :) and it is openly
accessible for anyone for writing, reading, and searching. Therefore
these three venues cannot be weighted equally, but git@vger should be
the explicitly preferred venue. Only if the newbie has some other
preferences should the other two be considered; e.g. if more
interactive, chatty communication is preferred, then try #git-devel.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-11-19 18:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-11-15 21:53 [PATCH] MyFirstContribution: add avenues for getting help Emily Shaffer
2019-11-15 22:05 ` Denton Liu
2019-11-15 23:03 ` Emily Shaffer
2019-11-15 23:06 ` [PATCH v2] " Emily Shaffer
2019-11-15 23:38 ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-11-16 0:09 ` Jonathan Nieder
2019-11-16 3:05 ` Junio C Hamano
2019-11-18 21:45 ` Emily Shaffer
2019-11-19 1:45 ` Junio C Hamano
2019-11-19 18:49 ` SZEDER Gábor [this message]
2019-11-19 21:29 ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-11-19 21:41 ` SZEDER Gábor
2019-11-20 1:50 ` Eric Wong
2019-11-20 11:41 ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-11-20 23:40 ` SZEDER Gábor
2019-11-20 10:45 ` Kerry, Richard
2019-11-20 11:37 ` Junio C Hamano
2019-11-19 18:25 ` SZEDER Gábor
2019-12-13 1:31 ` [PATCH v3] " Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13 3:00 ` Derrick Stolee
2019-12-13 4:14 ` Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13 4:16 ` [PATCH v4] " Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13 17:20 ` [PATCH v3] " Junio C Hamano
2019-12-13 17:49 ` Emily Shaffer
2019-12-13 18:40 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-01-24 20:09 ` [PATCH v5] " emilyshaffer
2020-01-24 20:35 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-01-24 20:50 ` Emily Shaffer
2020-01-24 20:54 ` Emily Shaffer
2020-01-24 21:11 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-01-24 21:01 ` [PATCH v6] " Emily Shaffer
2020-01-24 21:18 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-01-24 21:20 ` Emily Shaffer
2020-01-24 21:26 ` [PATCH v7] " Emily Shaffer
2020-01-24 21:56 ` SZEDER Gábor
2020-01-24 23:44 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-06 1:07 ` SZEDER Gábor
2020-02-06 16:33 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-06 19:49 ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-06 22:13 ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-14 2:03 ` [PATCH] MyFirstContribution: rephrase contact info Emily Shaffer
2020-02-14 2:10 ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-02-14 17:36 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-01-24 22:05 ` [PATCH v7] MyFirstContribution: add avenues for getting help Junio C Hamano
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