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From: Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, ericsunshine@sunshineco.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 2/2] builtin/config.c: support `--type=<type>` as preferred alias for `--type`
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 19:17:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180410021757.GB937@syl.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqsh834yz1.fsf@gitster-ct.c.googlers.com>

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 10:44:18AM +0900, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com> writes:
>
> > `git config` has long allowed the ability for callers to provide a 'type
> > specifier', which instructs `git config` to (1) ensure that incoming
> > values are satisfiable under that type, and (2) that outgoing values are
> > canonicalized under that type.
>
> Hmm, "satisfiable" is not the first word that comes to my mind to
> describe "when you give me a string 'frotz', we cannot take it as an
> integer".  s/are satisfiable under/can be interpreted as/ perhaps?

Sure; I think that "can be interpreted as" is clearer. I have amended my
patch locally, and will include this in the next re-roll, should one
exist.

> > In another series, we propose to extend this functionality with
> > `--type=color` and `--default` to replace `--get-color`.
> >
> > However, we traditionally use `--color` to mean "colorize this output",
> > instead of "this value should be treated as a color".
>
> Makes sense.
>
> > Currently, `git config` does not support this kind of colorization, but
> > we should be careful to avoid inhabiting this option too soon, so that
> > `git config` can support `--type=color` (in the traditional sense) in
> > the future, if that is desired.
>
> Shouldn't the above `--color` instead?  That is, we avoid squatting
> on `--color` because we might later want to use it in the
> traditional way.  Also my reading stuttered around "inhabiting".  It
> might be just me, but perhaps s/inhabiting/squating on/?

Ack, yes to both.

> > In this patch, we support `--type=<int|bool|bool-or-int|...>` in
> > addition to `--int`, `--bool`, and etc. This allows the aforementioned
> > upcoming patch to support querying a color value with a default via
> > `--type=color --default=...`, without squandering `--color`.
>
> Good.
>
> > @@ -160,30 +158,39 @@ See also <<FILES>>.
> >  --list::
> >  	List all variables set in config file, along with their values.
> >
> > ---bool::
> > -	'git config' will ensure that the output is "true" or "false"
> > +--type <type>::
> > +  'git config' will ensure that any input or output is valid under the given
> > +  type constraint(s), and will canonicalize outgoing values in `<type>`'s
> > +  canonical form.
> > ++
> > +Valid `<type>`'s include:
> > ++
> > +- 'bool': canonicalize values as either "true" or "false".
> > +- 'int': canonicalize values as simple decimal numbers. An optional suffix of
> > +  'k', 'm', or 'g' will cause the value to be multiplied by 1024, 1048576, or
> > +  1073741824 prior to output.
>
> It is not a new problem introduced by this patch, but these place
> too much weight on the output side and may end up giving a flawed
> mental model to the readers, I am afraid.
>
> It's not like an 'int' value internally is "2k" and shown it as 2048
> when output.  In reality, we internalize it 2048 upon input and we
> do not do anything special when showing, no?  A 'bool' value given
> with a string 'no' internally becomes 0 upon input and is shown as
> 'false' upon output.
>
> I suspect s/prior to output/upon input/ may alleviate the issue
> quite a bit.

I share your concern, and I think that your suggestion would alleviate
the issue entirely.

I have applied these suggestions locally. :-)

Thanks,
Taylor

  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-10  2:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-28 23:47 [PATCH] builtin/config.c: prefer `--type=bool` over `--bool`, etc Taylor Blau
2018-03-29 20:18 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-03-29 22:11 ` Jeff King
2018-03-30  5:27   ` Taylor Blau
2018-03-30 13:53     ` Jeff King
2018-03-30 16:00       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-03-30 18:27         ` Jeff King
2018-03-30  5:28 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] builtin/config.c: treat type specifiers singularly Taylor Blau
2018-03-30  5:28   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] builtin/config.c: prefer `--type=bool` over `--bool`, etc Taylor Blau
2018-03-30  6:17     ` René Scharfe
2018-03-30 13:48     ` Jeff King
2018-03-30 13:41   ` [PATCH v2 1/2] builtin/config.c: treat type specifiers singularly Jeff King
2018-04-04  6:07 ` [PATCH v3 0/2] builtin/config.c: prefer `--type=bool` over `--bool`, etc Taylor Blau
2018-04-04  6:07   ` [PATCH v3 1/2] builtin/config.c: treat type specifiers singularly Taylor Blau
2018-04-04  7:57     ` Eric Sunshine
2018-04-05  1:53       ` Taylor Blau
2018-04-05 21:51         ` Jeff King
2018-04-04  6:07   ` [PATCH v3 2/2] builtin/config.c: prefer `--type=bool` over `--bool`, etc Taylor Blau
2018-04-04  7:27     ` Eric Sunshine
2018-04-05  1:47       ` Taylor Blau
2018-04-05  2:00 ` [PATCH v4 0/2] " Taylor Blau
2018-04-05 21:58   ` Jeff King
2018-04-05 22:15     ` Taylor Blau
     [not found] ` <cover.1522893363.git.me@ttaylorr.com>
2018-04-05  2:00   ` [PATCH v4 1/2] builtin/config.c: treat type specifiers singularly Taylor Blau
2018-04-05  2:00   ` [PATCH v4 2/2] builtin/config.c: prefer `--type=bool` over `--bool`, etc Taylor Blau
2018-04-05 22:29     ` Eric Sunshine
2018-04-05 22:40       ` Jeff King
2018-04-06  5:19         ` Taylor Blau
2018-04-06  5:17       ` Taylor Blau
2018-04-05  2:02   ` Taylor Blau
2018-04-05 22:12     ` Jeff King
2018-04-05 22:15       ` Taylor Blau
2018-04-06  5:08       ` Taylor Blau
2018-04-06  6:38 ` [PATCH v6 0/2] builtin/config.c: support `--type=<type>` as preferred alias for `--type` Taylor Blau
     [not found] ` <cover.1522996619.git.me@ttaylorr.com>
2018-04-06  6:39   ` [PATCH v6 1/2] builtin/config.c: treat type specifiers singularly Taylor Blau
2018-04-06  6:39   ` [PATCH v6 2/2] builtin/config.c: support `--type=<type>` as preferred alias for `--type` Taylor Blau
2018-04-06  7:04     ` Eric Sunshine
2018-04-07  0:39       ` Taylor Blau
2018-04-07  8:25         ` Eric Sunshine
2018-04-09 22:46 ` [PATCH v7 0/2] " Taylor Blau
2018-04-09 23:11   ` Eric Sunshine
     [not found] ` <cover.1523313730.git.me@ttaylorr.com>
2018-04-09 22:46   ` [PATCH v7 1/2] builtin/config.c: treat type specifiers singularly Taylor Blau
2018-04-10  1:22     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-10  2:12       ` Taylor Blau
2018-04-10  4:13         ` Eric Sunshine
2018-04-09 22:46   ` [PATCH v7 2/2] builtin/config.c: support `--type=<type>` as preferred alias for `--type` Taylor Blau
2018-04-10  1:44     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-10  2:17       ` Taylor Blau [this message]
2018-04-11  1:06 ` [PATCH v8 0/2] " Taylor Blau
2018-04-11  1:24   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-11  1:33     ` Taylor Blau
2018-04-11  3:11       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-11  3:49         ` Taylor Blau
     [not found] ` <cover.1523408336.git.me@ttaylorr.com>
2018-04-11  1:06   ` [PATCH v8 1/2] builtin/config.c: treat type specifiers singularly Taylor Blau
2018-04-11  1:07   ` [PATCH v8 2/2] builtin/config.c: support `--type=<type>` as preferred alias for `--type` Taylor Blau
2018-04-18 21:43 ` [PATCH v9 0/2] " Taylor Blau
     [not found] ` <cover.1524087557.git.me@ttaylorr.com>
2018-04-18 21:43   ` [PATCH v9 1/2] builtin/config.c: treat type specifiers singularly Taylor Blau
2018-04-18 21:43   ` [PATCH v9 2/2] builtin/config.c: support `--type=<type>` as preferred alias for `--type` Taylor Blau
2018-04-19  2:47     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-19  3:01       ` Taylor Blau

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