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From: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/7] read_in_full: reset errno before reading
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 17:13:54 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170926001354.GN27425@aiede.mtv.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170926000117.y3solltovyueq3zc@sigill.intra.peff.net>

Jeff King wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 04:55:10PM -0700, Jonathan Nieder wrote:

>> All that really matters is the strerror() that the user would see.
>
> Agreed, though I didn't think those were necessarily standardized.

The standard allows them to vary for the sake of internationalization,
but they are de facto constants (probably because of application authors
like us abusing them ;-)).

[...]
>> Of course, it's even
>> better if we fix the callers and don't try to wedge this into errno.
>
> Yes. This patch is just a stop-gap. Perhaps we should abandon it
> entirely. But I couldn't find a way to fix all the callers. If you have
> a function that just returns "-1" when it sees a read_in_full() error,
> how does _its_ caller tell the difference?
>
> I guess the answer is that the interface of the sub-function calling
> read_in_full() needs to change.

Yes. :/

>> If you are okay with the too-long/too-short confusion in EOVERFLOW, then
>> there is EMSGSIZE:
>>
>> 	Message too long
>
> I don't really like that one either.
>
> I actually prefer "0" of the all of the options discussed. At least it
> is immediately clear that it is not a syscall error.

I have a basic aversion to ": Success" in error messages.  Whenever I
see such an error message, I stop trusting the program that produced it
not to be seriously buggy.  Maybe I'm the only one?

If no actual errno works, we could make a custom strerror-like function
with our own custom errors (making them negative to avoid clashing with
standard errno values), but this feels like overkill.

In the same spirit of misleadingly confusing too-long and too-short,
there is also ERANGE ("Result too large"), which doesn't work here.
There's also EPROTO "Protocol error", but that's about protocols, not
file formats.  More vague and therefor maybe more applicable is EBADMSG
"Bad message".  There's also ENOMSG "No message of the desired type".

If the goal is to support debugging, an error like EPIPE "Broken pipe"
or ESPIPE "Invalid seek" would be likely to lead me in the right
direction (wrong file size), even though it is misleading about how
the error surfaced.

We could also avoid trying to be cute and use something generic like
EIO "Input/output error".

Jonathan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-09-26  0:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-25 20:26 [PATCH 0/7] read/write_in_full leftovers Jeff King
2017-09-25 20:27 ` [PATCH 1/7] files-backend: prefer "0" for write_in_full() error check Jeff King
2017-09-25 21:59   ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-25 23:13     ` Jeff King
2017-09-25 20:27 ` [PATCH 2/7] notes-merge: drop dead zero-write code Jeff King
2017-09-25 21:59   ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-25 20:29 ` [PATCH 3/7] read_in_full: reset errno before reading Jeff King
2017-09-25 22:09   ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-25 23:23     ` Jeff King
2017-09-25 23:33       ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-25 23:37         ` Jeff King
2017-09-25 23:45           ` Jeff King
2017-09-25 23:55             ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-26  0:01               ` Jeff King
2017-09-26  0:06                 ` Stefan Beller
2017-09-26  0:09                   ` Jeff King
2017-09-26  0:16                     ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-26  0:17                       ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-26  0:19                         ` Jeff King
2017-09-26  0:22                           ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-26  4:11                           ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-27  4:07                             ` Jeff King
2017-09-27  4:27                               ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-26  0:13                 ` Jonathan Nieder [this message]
2017-09-26  0:17                   ` Jeff King
2017-09-26  0:20                     ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-26  0:25                       ` Jeff King
2017-09-26  0:28                         ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-25 23:52           ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-25 20:29 ` [PATCH 4/7] get-tar-commit-id: prefer "!=" for read_in_full() error check Jeff King
2017-09-25 22:10   ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-25 20:30 ` [PATCH 5/7] worktree: use xsize_t to access file size Jeff King
2017-09-25 22:11   ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-25 20:31 ` [PATCH 6/7] worktree: check the result of read_in_full() Jeff King
2017-09-25 22:14   ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-25 23:25     ` Jeff King
2017-09-25 20:33 ` [PATCH 7/7] add xread_in_full() helper Jeff King
2017-09-25 22:16   ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-25 23:27     ` Jeff King
2017-09-27  5:54 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] read/write_in_full leftovers Jeff King
2017-09-27  6:00   ` [PATCH v2 1/7] files-backend: prefer "0" for write_in_full() error check Jeff King
2017-09-27  6:00   ` [PATCH v2 2/7] notes-merge: drop dead zero-write code Jeff King
2017-09-27  6:00   ` [PATCH v2 3/7] prefer "!=" when checking read_in_full() result Jeff King
2017-09-27  6:59     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-27  7:09       ` Jeff King
2017-09-27  6:01   ` [PATCH v2 4/7] avoid looking at errno for short read_in_full() returns Jeff King
2017-09-27  6:59     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-27  6:02   ` [PATCH v2 5/7] distinguish error versus short read from read_in_full() Jeff King
2017-09-27  6:02   ` [PATCH v2 6/7] worktree: use xsize_t to access file size Jeff King
2017-09-27  6:02   ` [PATCH v2 7/7] worktree: check the result of read_in_full() Jeff King
2017-09-27  6:57   ` [PATCH v2 0/7] read/write_in_full leftovers Junio C Hamano

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