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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/7] read_in_full: reset errno before reading
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 19:45:41 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170925234541.l6qcislhfwtnxf5m@sigill.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170925233732.4lqavl56qwpfjuxy@sigill.intra.peff.net>

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 07:37:32PM -0400, Jeff King wrote:

> > Correct.  Actually more than "frown on": except for with the few calls
> > like strtoul that are advertised to work this way, POSIX does not make
> > the guarantee the above code would rely on, at all.
> > 
> > So it's not just frowned upon: it's so unportable that the standard
> > calls it out as something that won't work.
> 
> Is it unportable? Certainly read() is free reset errno to zero on
> success. But is it allowed to set it to another random value?
> 
> I think we're getting pretty academic here, but I'm curious if you have
> a good reference.

Answering my own question. POSIX says:

  No function in this volume of IEEE Std 1003.1-2001 shall set errno to
  0. The setting of errno after a successful call to a function is
  unspecified unless the description of that function specifies that
  errno shall not be modified.

So that does seem to outlaw errno-only checks for most functions.

It makes me wonder if the recent getdelim() fix is technically violating
this. It should instead be explicitly checking for feof().

> IMHO as long as it _is_ deterministic and recognize as not an error from
> read(), that's the best we can do. Which is why I went with "0" in the
> first place. Seeing "read error: success" is a common-ish idiom (to me
> anyway) for "read didn't fail, but some user-space logic did", if only
> because it often happens accidentally.

Another option I ran across from POSIX:

  [EOVERFLOW]
    The file is a regular file, nbyte is greater than 0, the starting
    position is before the end-of-file, and the starting position is
    greater than or equal to the offset maximum established in the open
    file description associated with fildes.

That's not _exactly_ what's going on here, but it's pretty close. And is
what you would get if you implemented read_exactly() in terms of
something like pread().

-Peff

  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-25 23:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-25 20:26 [PATCH 0/7] read/write_in_full leftovers Jeff King
2017-09-25 20:27 ` [PATCH 1/7] files-backend: prefer "0" for write_in_full() error check Jeff King
2017-09-25 21:59   ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-25 23:13     ` Jeff King
2017-09-25 20:27 ` [PATCH 2/7] notes-merge: drop dead zero-write code Jeff King
2017-09-25 21:59   ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-25 20:29 ` [PATCH 3/7] read_in_full: reset errno before reading Jeff King
2017-09-25 22:09   ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-25 23:23     ` Jeff King
2017-09-25 23:33       ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-25 23:37         ` Jeff King
2017-09-25 23:45           ` Jeff King [this message]
2017-09-25 23:55             ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-26  0:01               ` Jeff King
2017-09-26  0:06                 ` Stefan Beller
2017-09-26  0:09                   ` Jeff King
2017-09-26  0:16                     ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-26  0:17                       ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-26  0:19                         ` Jeff King
2017-09-26  0:22                           ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-26  4:11                           ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-27  4:07                             ` Jeff King
2017-09-27  4:27                               ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-26  0:13                 ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-26  0:17                   ` Jeff King
2017-09-26  0:20                     ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-26  0:25                       ` Jeff King
2017-09-26  0:28                         ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-25 23:52           ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-25 20:29 ` [PATCH 4/7] get-tar-commit-id: prefer "!=" for read_in_full() error check Jeff King
2017-09-25 22:10   ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-25 20:30 ` [PATCH 5/7] worktree: use xsize_t to access file size Jeff King
2017-09-25 22:11   ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-25 20:31 ` [PATCH 6/7] worktree: check the result of read_in_full() Jeff King
2017-09-25 22:14   ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-25 23:25     ` Jeff King
2017-09-25 20:33 ` [PATCH 7/7] add xread_in_full() helper Jeff King
2017-09-25 22:16   ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-25 23:27     ` Jeff King
2017-09-27  5:54 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] read/write_in_full leftovers Jeff King
2017-09-27  6:00   ` [PATCH v2 1/7] files-backend: prefer "0" for write_in_full() error check Jeff King
2017-09-27  6:00   ` [PATCH v2 2/7] notes-merge: drop dead zero-write code Jeff King
2017-09-27  6:00   ` [PATCH v2 3/7] prefer "!=" when checking read_in_full() result Jeff King
2017-09-27  6:59     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-27  7:09       ` Jeff King
2017-09-27  6:01   ` [PATCH v2 4/7] avoid looking at errno for short read_in_full() returns Jeff King
2017-09-27  6:59     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-27  6:02   ` [PATCH v2 5/7] distinguish error versus short read from read_in_full() Jeff King
2017-09-27  6:02   ` [PATCH v2 6/7] worktree: use xsize_t to access file size Jeff King
2017-09-27  6:02   ` [PATCH v2 7/7] worktree: check the result of read_in_full() Jeff King
2017-09-27  6:57   ` [PATCH v2 0/7] read/write_in_full leftovers Junio C Hamano

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