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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Philip Oakley <philipoakley@iee.org>,
	Kevin Willford <kcwillford@gmail.com>,
	Kevin Willford <kewillf@microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] progress: simplify "delayed" progress API
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2017 03:43:19 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170820074318.3fchxwbuux5zbkah@sigill.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqy3qf8nj6.fsf_-_@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com>

On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 10:39:41AM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:

> We used to expose the full power of the delayed progress API to the
> callers, so that they can specify, not just the message to show and
> expected total amount of work that is used to compute the percentage
> of work performed so far, the percent-threshold parameter P and the
> delay-seconds parameter N.  The progress meter starts to show at N
> seconds into the operation only if the amount of work completed
> exceeds P.
> 
> Most callers used either (0%, 2s) or (50%, 1s) as (P, N), but there
> are oddballs that chose more random-looking values like 95%.
> 
> For a smoother workload, (50%, 1s) would allow us to start showing
> the progress meter earlier than (0%, 2s), while keeping the chance
> of not showing progress meter for long running operation the same as
> the latter.  For a task that would take 2s or more to complete, it
> is likely that less than half of it would complete within the first
> second, if the workload is smooth.  But for a spiky workload whose
> earlier part is easier, such a setting is likely to fail to show the
> progress meter entirely and (0%, 2s) is more appropriate.
> 
> But that is merely a theory.  Realistically, it is of dubious value
> to ask each codepath to carefully consider smoothness of their
> workload and specify their own setting by passing two extra
> parameters.  Let's simplify the API by dropping both parameters and
> have everybody use (0%, 2s).

Nicely explained (modulo the reversal you noticed in the first
paragraph). The patch looks good to me.

> Oh, by the way, the percent-threshold parameter and the structure
> member were consistently misspelled, which also is now fixed ;-)

Heh, that was bugging me, too. :)

>  * So before I forget all about this topic, here is a patch to
>    actually do this.
> 
>    > So I'd vote to drop that parameter entirely. And if 1 second seems
>    > noticeably snappier, then we should probably just move everything to a 1
>    > second delay (I don't have a strong feeling either way).
> 
>    I was also tempted to do this, but decided to keep it closer to
>    the original for majority of callers by leaving the delay at 2s.
>    With this patch, such a change as a follow-up is made a lot
>    easier (somebody may want to even make a configuration out of it,
>    but that would not be me).

Yeah, I agree that it can come later on top (if at all).

Thanks for finishing this off.

-Peff

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-08-20  7:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-31 15:04 [PATCH 0/2] Add progress to format-patch and rebase Kevin Willford
2017-05-31 15:04 ` [PATCH 1/2] format-patch: have progress option while generating patches Kevin Willford
2017-05-31 18:40   ` Stefan Beller
2017-05-31 19:31     ` Kevin Willford
2017-05-31 22:01   ` Jeff King
2017-06-01  4:10     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-06-01 11:15     ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-06-01 15:54       ` Jeff King
2017-05-31 15:04 ` [PATCH 2/2] rebase: turn on progress option by default for format-patch Kevin Willford
2017-05-31 19:08   ` Stefan Beller
2017-05-31 19:46     ` Kevin Willford
2017-05-31 20:27       ` Stefan Beller
2017-06-01 11:11     ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-05-31 22:11   ` Jeff King
2017-06-03 23:45     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-08-10 18:32 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] Add progress for format-patch and rebase Kevin Willford
2017-08-10 22:48   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-08-10 23:17     ` Jeff King
2017-08-10 18:32 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] format-patch: have progress option while generating patches Kevin Willford
2017-08-10 23:20   ` Jeff King
2017-08-11 22:18     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-08-12  8:06       ` Philip Oakley
2017-08-13  4:39         ` Jeff King
2017-08-14 16:45           ` Junio C Hamano
2017-08-14 18:35             ` Junio C Hamano
2017-08-14 22:29               ` Jeff King
2017-08-14 22:42                 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-08-14 23:08                   ` Jeff King
2017-08-14 23:23                     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-08-19 17:39                 ` [PATCH] progress: simplify "delayed" progress API Junio C Hamano
2017-08-19 20:58                   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-08-20  7:43                   ` Jeff King [this message]
2017-08-10 18:32 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] rebase: turn on progress option by default for format-patch Kevin Willford
2017-08-11 22:22   ` Junio C Hamano

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