From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Shawn Pearce <spearce@spearce.org>
Cc: Jonathan Tan <jonathantanmy@google.com>, git <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] connect: know that zero-ID is not a ref
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 22:17:35 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160903021735.6powysozcgiuf6rg@sigill.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJo=hJtg1h1Zvu-TjMtDYVjPB2n0pihA18q3sHBPQ_ZA4dWRKg@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Sep 02, 2016 at 07:03:30PM -0700, Shawn Pearce wrote:
> > Is it useful for upload-pack? If we have no refs, there's traditionally
> > been nothing to fetch. Perhaps that's something that could change,
> > though. For example, there could be a capability to allow fetching
> > arbitrary sha1s (we have allowTIPSH1InWant and allowReachableSHA1InWant,
> > which obviously both require some refs, but allowArbitrarySHA1 does not
> > seem outside the realm of possibility).
>
> Its exactly these sort of extra capabilities. We run JGit in modes
> where "out of band" (e.g. URL or higher level protocol framing like an
> undocumented HTTP header) allows the fetch-pack client to say "do not
> send me advertisements, but I want to learn your capabilities". The
> fetch-pack client typically activates the allow-reachable-sha1-in-want
> feature and names specific SHA-1s it wants.
So it sounds like you _could_ enable this only in out-of-band mode,
without loss of functionality.
I don't particularly care either way (I do not run any JGit servers
myself), but if we do it in Git, I think that is the path we should go
for maximum compatibility (and then if we jump to protocol v2, we get to
shed all of the compatibility cruft).
> This allows the fetch-pack client to bypass a very large advertisement
> if it wants only a specific SHA-1 and doesn't care about the ref name
> its bound to, or reachable through.
Yep, definitely a useful thing.
> This is also perhaps a stepping stone towards "client speaks first".
> If we can later standardize an HTTP query parameter or extra HTTP
> header, the server may be able to avoid sending a lot of ref
> advertisements, but would still need to advertise capabilities.
Yes, but that is a big enough jump that we can design it to look like
whatever we want, not shoe-horning it into a pretend ref. Older clients
will be left behind either way, we will need a transition plan, etc.
-Peff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-09-03 2:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-09-02 17:15 [PATCH 0/2] handle empty spec-compliant remote repos correctly Jonathan Tan
2016-09-02 17:15 ` [PATCH 1/2] tests: move test_lazy_prereq JGIT to test-lib.sh Jonathan Tan
2016-09-02 17:15 ` [PATCH 2/2] connect: know that zero-ID is not a ref Jonathan Tan
2016-09-02 19:37 ` Jonathan Nieder
2016-09-02 19:39 ` Shawn Pearce
2016-09-02 19:56 ` Stefan Beller
2016-09-02 20:00 ` Shawn Pearce
2016-09-02 20:13 ` Jeff King
2016-09-02 22:11 ` Jonathan Tan
2016-09-02 23:19 ` Jeff King
2016-09-03 2:03 ` Shawn Pearce
2016-09-03 2:17 ` Jeff King [this message]
2016-09-02 22:06 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] handle empty spec-compliant remote repos correctly Jonathan Tan
2016-09-02 22:06 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] tests: move test_lazy_prereq JGIT to test-lib.sh Jonathan Tan
2016-09-07 16:47 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-09-02 22:06 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] connect: advertized capability is not a ref Jonathan Tan
2016-09-02 22:40 ` Jonathan Nieder
2016-09-02 23:35 ` Jeff King
2016-09-02 23:48 ` Stefan Beller
2016-09-03 0:37 ` Jonathan Nieder
2016-09-02 23:51 ` Jonathan Nieder
2016-09-03 0:56 ` Jeff King
2016-09-07 17:02 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-09-07 17:10 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-09-07 20:38 ` Jonathan Nieder
2016-09-07 23:02 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-09-07 23:50 ` [PATCH v3 0/2] handle empty spec-compliant remote repos correctly Jonathan Tan
2016-09-07 23:50 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] tests: move test_lazy_prereq JGIT to test-lib.sh Jonathan Tan
2016-09-07 23:50 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] connect: advertized capability is not a ref Jonathan Tan
2016-09-08 1:34 ` Jonathan Nieder
2016-09-08 1:45 ` [PATCH] connect: tighten check for unexpected early hang up (Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] connect: advertized capability is not a ref) Jonathan Nieder
2016-09-08 1:46 ` Jonathan Nieder
2016-09-08 1:50 ` Jonathan Nieder
2016-09-08 16:42 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-09-08 16:28 ` Stefan Beller
2016-09-08 16:18 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] connect: advertized capability is not a ref Junio C Hamano
2016-09-09 17:36 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] handle empty spec-compliant remote repos correctly Jonathan Tan
2016-09-09 17:36 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] tests: move test_lazy_prereq JGIT to test-lib.sh Jonathan Tan
2016-09-10 5:51 ` Torsten Bögershausen
2016-09-10 6:00 ` Jeff King
2016-09-09 17:36 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] connect: tighten check for unexpected early hang up Jonathan Tan
2016-09-09 17:36 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] connect: advertized capability is not a ref Jonathan Tan
2016-09-09 19:40 ` Jonathan Nieder
2016-09-09 20:40 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-09-09 20:09 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-09-09 20:17 ` [PATCH v5 0/3] handle empty spec-compliant remote repos correctly Jonathan Tan
2016-09-09 21:07 ` Jonathan Nieder
2016-09-09 20:17 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] tests: move test_lazy_prereq JGIT to test-lib.sh Jonathan Tan
2016-09-09 20:17 ` [PATCH v5 2/3] connect: tighten check for unexpected early hang up Jonathan Tan
2016-09-09 20:17 ` [PATCH v5 3/3] connect: advertized capability is not a ref Jonathan Tan
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