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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Stefan Beller <sbeller@google.com>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>, Eric Wong <e@80x24.org>,
	"git@vger.kernel.org" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Johannes Sixt <j6t@kdbg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] xread: retry after poll on EAGAIN/EWOULDBLOCK
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 15:51:38 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160627195138.GA15147@sigill.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGZ79kZWfGJG=qHtdpuLvQY5XK5P3L0UW7RJ=9ui=PgX+AjErQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 12:43:32PM -0700, Stefan Beller wrote:

> There are a few issues:
> 
>     1) How did you spot the bug? ("Experience/Logical thinking" is the hand
>       wavy answer, but if you had a list like
>       [ ] check for mem leak
>       [ ] check for futureproof design
>       [ ] check for failure modes (What if a syscall fails?")
>       [ ] ... List is not complete, but has some made up points

I use the hand-wavy approach to reviews, and I'm pretty sure that's how
I saw your bug (just thinking about what the code would do, how I would
write it, and then noticing a discrepancy).

I suspect a checklist could make things more thorough, but I think it
can also discourage deep thinking. Ideally we have some reviewers who
are checklist-oriented looking for those sorts of details and some who
are not.

>     2) I used to send out only "done"s, i.e. when I already fixed the
>     issue, instead of acknowledging the problem and postponing the fix
>     for later.  I'll revert to that.

Yes, I tend to use the review thread as a todo list, and do a single
session where I read over all of the review mails again (even if I've
read and responded to them already), fixing or adjusting the code. Sort
of a human version of the automated tool I described. :)

> > Of course, none of that would have helped my comment, which was in a
> > "PS" several emails deep in a discussion thread. ;)
> 
> Maybe a "P.S." would get its own point in the todo list not associated
> with code?  Then it would still be on the radar.

Yes, there are definitely design points that are not about a specific
part of the code, and you would want to somehow represent them in your
todo list.

There is a danger, though, of having a bunch of false positives added to
your list: tangent discussion that distracts you from the actual review.
And I think the bug here being in a PS is less relevant than being
buried amidst other discussion. That made it hard for a tool _or_ a
human to find.

-Peff

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-27 19:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-26 23:21 [PATCH 0/2] wrapper: xread/xwrite fixes for non-blocking FDs Eric Wong
2016-06-26 23:21 ` [PATCH 1/2] xread: retry after poll on EAGAIN/EWOULDBLOCK Eric Wong
2016-06-26 23:42   ` Jeff King
2016-06-27 13:02     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-06-27 14:36       ` Jeff King
2016-06-27 16:49         ` Stefan Beller
2016-06-27 19:17           ` Jeff King
2016-06-27 19:43             ` Stefan Beller
2016-06-27 19:51               ` Jeff King [this message]
2016-06-27 20:13           ` Eric Wong
2016-06-27 21:49             ` Jeff King
2016-06-27 22:22               ` Jeff King
2016-06-27 23:19                 ` Eric Wong
2016-06-26 23:51   ` Jeff King
2016-06-27  3:56     ` [PATCHv2 " Eric Wong
2016-06-26 23:21 ` [PATCH 2/2] xwrite: poll on non-blocking FDs Eric Wong
2016-06-26 23:49   ` Jeff King

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