From: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>
To: Petr Baudis <pasky@suse.cz>
Cc: Julian Phillips <julian@quantumfyre.co.uk>,
Junio C Hamano <junkio@cox.net>,
git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: News reader woes (was: Re: [3/4] What's not in 1.5.2 (new topics))
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 11:55:35 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200705251155.36835.jnareb@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070520001610.GD4489@pasky.or.cz>
On Sun, 20 May 2007, Petr Baudis <pasky@suse.cz> wrote:
> On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 08:45:16PM CEST, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>> Julian Phillips <julian@quantumfyre.co.uk> writes:
>>> On Fri, 18 May 2007, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>>>> Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> [Cc: Petr Baudis <pasky@suse.cz>, Josef Weidendorfer
>>>>> <Josef.Weidendorfer@gmx.de>, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@dev.mellanox.co.il>,
>>>>> Junio C Hamano <junkio@cox.net>, Andy Parkins <andyparkins@gmail.com>,
>>>>> Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org>, git@vger.kernel.org]
>>>>
>>>> Offtopic. Why do you do this, and what benefit are you or
>>>> anybody in the above list, which is in body part of the message,
>>>> getting?
>>>
>>> It looks like he is posting through gmane using a news reader ... so
>>> the list post comes from gmane while the CCs go out directly (I
>>> assume).
>>
>> Ah, I see. The names listed on that in-body CC: do appear on
>> the To: in the copy of the message that came via e-mail. If
>> that is how gmane operates then there is nothing Jakub to do to
>> improve it, I guess...
>>
>> Thanks for the clarification.
>
> Actually, Jakub, if it can be turned off, could you, please?
>
> Not getting cc'd on replies is slightly annoying. But this is highly
> confusing - suddenly I must take care _not_ to reply to the private
> copies, and we actually do have a parallel subthread of replies to your
> mail not cc'd to the mailing list. :-(
The problem, and mentioned above trying to overcome it, lies in
complicated interaction between the GMane news to email gateway,
vger mail filtering (spam protection rules) and the _news_ reader
I use, namely KNode 0.10.2 from KDE 3.5.3.
I read git mailing list via GMane NNTP (Usenet, news) interface:
nntp://gmane.comp.version-control.git
as I respond only rarely. I start new threads using email, and
if I get reply via email I try to reply also from mail client, not
via news. However, when replying to message which I read only via
NNTP interface, replying in news client, I have option of sending
reply only to gmane.comp.version-control.git which means sending
email only to git mailing list and breaking Cc: list.
Another option is to copy Cc: list manually to To: field (no Cc:
in this version of KNode), and have gmane.comp.version-control.git
in the Group: field. The fact that there is no Cc: to set is the
problem of KNode. The problem with GMane and vger interaction lies
in the fact that I _cannot_ put git@vger.kernel.org in the To: list,
as somehow vger rejects mails sent via GMane (it does not rejects
news messages send via GMane).
I could also copy whole message to mail client, but this would break
In-Reply-To: and references: headers, thus breaking threading.
Do I understand correctly that you prefer 1st option, namely replying
only to newsgroup / git mailing list?
Note that changing news client is as hard as changing email client:
you would like to migrate configuration, news state (read/unread
articles) and sent/drafts folders to new news client. Not that easy.
--
Jakub Narebski
Poland
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-05-25 9:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-05-16 22:47 [0/4] What's not in 1.5.2 (overview) Junio C Hamano
2007-05-16 22:47 ` [1/4] What's not in 1.5.2 (have been cooking in next) Junio C Hamano
2007-05-16 22:47 ` [2/4] What's not in 1.5.2 (will cook " Junio C Hamano
2007-05-16 22:47 ` [3/4] What's not in 1.5.2 (new topics) Junio C Hamano
2007-05-17 4:39 ` Andy Parkins
2007-05-17 5:21 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-05-17 7:51 ` Andy Parkins
2007-05-17 11:02 ` Alex Riesen
2007-05-17 12:46 ` Petr Baudis
2007-05-17 13:46 ` Jeff King
2007-05-17 16:10 ` Petr Baudis
2007-05-17 16:25 ` Jeff King
2007-05-17 17:30 ` Petr Baudis
2007-05-17 17:35 ` Jeff King
2007-05-17 18:49 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-05-18 12:58 ` Jeff King
2007-05-17 18:47 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-05-17 13:45 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-05-17 21:58 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2007-05-17 23:41 ` Josef Weidendorfer
2007-05-18 0:32 ` Steven Grimm
2007-05-18 4:50 ` Petr Baudis
2007-05-18 9:18 ` Josef Weidendorfer
2007-05-19 0:56 ` Torgil Svensson
2007-05-18 12:00 ` Jakub Narebski
2007-05-18 12:41 ` Petr Baudis
2007-05-19 16:38 ` Jakub Narebski
2007-05-18 18:37 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-05-18 18:40 ` Julian Phillips
2007-05-18 18:45 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-05-20 0:16 ` Petr Baudis
2007-05-25 9:55 ` Jakub Narebski [this message]
2007-05-18 7:57 ` Andy Parkins
2007-05-18 8:43 ` Josef Weidendorfer
2007-05-18 9:21 ` Andy Parkins
2007-05-18 11:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2007-05-18 12:27 ` Josef Weidendorfer
2007-05-18 12:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2007-05-18 15:06 ` Aidan Van Dyk
2007-05-18 15:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2007-05-19 12:50 ` Sven Verdoolaege
2007-05-21 1:10 ` Jakub Narebski
2007-05-18 17:00 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-05-19 18:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2007-05-19 19:56 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-05-18 8:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2007-05-18 9:40 ` Andy Parkins
2007-05-18 10:16 ` Johannes Sixt
2007-05-18 11:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2007-05-18 12:36 ` Andy Parkins
2007-05-19 1:02 ` Steven Grimm
2007-05-19 16:55 ` Josef Weidendorfer
[not found] ` <200705181524.40705.Josef.Weidendorfer@gmx.de>
[not found] ` <20070518133922.GK4708@mellanox.co.il>
[not found] ` <200705181751.15435.Josef.Weidendorfer@gmx.de>
2007-05-18 16:08 ` Petr Baudis
2007-05-18 16:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2007-05-16 22:47 ` [4/4] What's not in 1.5.2 (other bits and pieces) Junio C Hamano
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