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From: Sun Chao <16657101987@163.com>
To: Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>
Cc: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	"Sun Chao via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] packfile: freshen the mtime of packfile by configuration
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2021 00:48:54 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1B70F549-6A11-4FC7-B21F-C7FB014820CB@163.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YPBlbNRoupMtT2dg@nand.local>



> 2021年7月16日 00:42,Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com> 写道:
> 
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 12:30:18AM +0800, Sun Chao wrote:
>> I'm sorry to reply so late, I work long hours during the day, and the
>> company network can not send external mail, so I can only go home late
>> at night to reply to you.
> 
> There's no need to apologize :-).
> 
>> Thanks for your reply again, My explaination for 'why the mtime is so
>> important' lost some informations and it is not clear enough, I will
>> tell the details here:
> 
> Let me see if I can summarize here. Basically:
> 
>  - You have a number of servers that have NFS mounts which hold large
>    repositories with packs in excess of 10 GB in size.
>  - You have a lot of clients that are fetching, and a smaller number of
>    clients that are pushing, some of which happen to freshen the mtimes
>    of the packs.
> 
> ...and the mtimes being updated cause the disk cache to be invalidated?
> 
> It's the last part that is so surprising to me. Ævar and I discussed
> earlier in the thread that their understanding was that you had a backup
> system which had to resynchronize an unchanged file because its metadata
> had changed.
> 
> But this is different than that. If I understand what you're saying
> correctly, then you're saying that the disk caches themselves are
> invalidated by changing the mtime.
> 
> That is highly surprising to me, since the block cache should only be
> invalidated if the *blocks* change, not metadata in the inode. It would
> be good to confirm that this is actually what's happening.
> 
> Thanks,
> Taylor

Oh, Maybe I didn't understand caching well enough, let me check it again,
and thanks for your and Ævar's answers, they are really helpful.



  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-15 16:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-10 19:01 [PATCH] packfile: enhance the mtime of packfile by idx file Sun Chao via GitGitGadget
2021-07-11 23:44 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-12 16:17   ` Sun Chao
2021-07-14  1:28 ` [PATCH v2] packfile: freshen the mtime of packfile by configuration Sun Chao via GitGitGadget
2021-07-14  1:39   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-14  2:52     ` Taylor Blau
2021-07-14 16:46       ` Sun Chao
2021-07-14 17:04         ` Taylor Blau
2021-07-14 18:19           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-14 19:11             ` Martin Fick
2021-07-14 19:41               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-14 20:20                 ` Martin Fick
2021-07-20  6:32                   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-15  8:23                 ` Son Luong Ngoc
2021-07-20  6:29                   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-14 19:30             ` Taylor Blau
2021-07-14 19:32               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-14 19:52                 ` Taylor Blau
2021-07-14 21:40               ` Junio C Hamano
2021-07-15 16:30           ` Sun Chao
2021-07-15 16:42             ` Taylor Blau
2021-07-15 16:48               ` Sun Chao [this message]
2021-07-14 16:11     ` Sun Chao
2021-07-19 19:53   ` [PATCH v3] " Sun Chao via GitGitGadget
2021-07-19 20:51     ` Taylor Blau
2021-07-20  0:07       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-07-20 15:07         ` Sun Chao
2021-07-20  6:19       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-20 15:34         ` Sun Chao
2021-07-20 15:00       ` Sun Chao
2021-07-20 16:53         ` Taylor Blau
2021-08-15 17:08     ` [PATCH v4 0/2] " Sun Chao via GitGitGadget
2021-08-15 17:08       ` [PATCH v4 1/2] packfile: rename `derive_filename()` to `derive_pack_filename()` Sun Chao via GitGitGadget
2021-08-15 17:08       ` [PATCH v4 2/2] packfile: freshen the mtime of packfile by bump file Sun Chao via GitGitGadget

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