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From: John Cai <johncai86@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Phillip Wood <phillip.wood123@gmail.com>,
	John Cai via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, me@ttaylorr.com, avarab@gmail.com,
	e@80x24.org, bagasdotme@gmail.com,
	Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco.com>,
	Jonathan Tan <jonathantanmy@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] cat-file: add --batch-command mode
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 16:30:58 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <06C925DC-DAAC-4BA6-8CFA-E4ACF2039BB6@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqpmnt9ngx.fsf@gitster.g>

Hi Junio

On 11 Feb 2022, at 15:07, Junio C Hamano wrote:

> John Cai <johncai86@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Let me see if I understand you. What I'm hearing is that it's hard to test a git
>> processes (A) that read/write from/to pipes without knowing exactly how (A) will
>> behave. By necessity, the test logic will have embedded some logic in it that
>> assumes certain behavior from (A), which might or might not be the case.
>>
>> This can lead to a hanging test if, say, it is waiting around for (A) to output
>> data when due to a bug in the code, it never does. Did I get that right?
>
> Exactly.  And we've seen such tests that are designed to hang, when
> they detect bugs, which made us very unhappy and we fixed them not
> to hang but reliably fail.  Otherwise, such tests weren't very
> useful in unattended CI environment, which we do not want to wait
> for 3 hours to timeout and leave later steps in the same script
> untested.

That makes sense. Do you have an example of one of these tests? I'd like to see
how it was converted from a test that hung to a test that failed reliably. As
I'm thinking about converting run_buffer_test_flush() and run_buffer_test_no_flush()
into tests that fail rather than hang, I'm having a hard time avoiding the
pattern of A writes to B and waits for B to respond.

>
> Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-11 21:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-03 19:08 [PATCH 0/2] Add cat-file --batch-command flag John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-03 19:08 ` [PATCH 1/2] cat-file.c: rename cmdmode to mode John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-03 19:28   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-04 12:10   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-03 19:08 ` [PATCH 2/2] catfile.c: add --batch-command mode John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-03 19:57   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-04  4:11     ` John Cai
2022-02-04 16:46       ` Phillip Wood
2022-02-04  6:45   ` Eric Sunshine
2022-02-04 21:41     ` John Cai
2022-02-05  6:52       ` Eric Sunshine
2022-02-04 12:11   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-04 16:51     ` Phillip Wood
2022-02-07 16:33 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] Add cat-file --batch-command flag John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-07 16:33   ` [PATCH v2 1/2] cat-file: rename cmdmode to transform_mode John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-07 23:58     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-07 16:33   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] cat-file: add --batch-command mode John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-07 23:34     ` Jonathan Tan
2022-02-08 11:00       ` Phillip Wood
2022-02-08 17:56         ` Jonathan Tan
2022-02-08 18:09           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-09  0:11             ` Jonathan Tan
2022-02-08  0:49     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-08 11:06     ` Phillip Wood
2022-02-08 20:58   ` [PATCH v3 0/3] Add cat-file --batch-command flag John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-08 20:58     ` [PATCH v3 1/3] cat-file: rename cmdmode to transform_mode John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-08 20:58     ` [PATCH v3 2/3] cat-file: introduce batch_command enum to replace print_contents John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-08 23:43       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-08 20:58     ` [PATCH v3 3/3] cat-file: add --batch-command mode John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-08 23:59       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-09 21:40     ` [PATCH v3 0/3] Add cat-file --batch-command flag Junio C Hamano
2022-02-09 22:22       ` John Cai
2022-02-09 23:10         ` John Cai
2022-02-10  4:01     ` [PATCH v4 " John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-10  4:01       ` [PATCH v4 1/3] cat-file: rename cmdmode to transform_mode John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-10  4:01       ` [PATCH v4 2/3] cat-file: introduce batch_mode enum to replace print_contents John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-10 10:10         ` Christian Couder
2022-02-10  4:01       ` [PATCH v4 3/3] cat-file: add --batch-command mode John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-10 10:57         ` Phillip Wood
2022-02-10 17:05           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-11 17:45             ` John Cai
2022-02-11 20:07               ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-11 21:30                 ` John Cai [this message]
2022-02-10 18:55           ` John Cai
2022-02-10 22:46         ` Eric Sunshine
2022-02-10 20:30       ` [PATCH v4 0/3] Add cat-file --batch-command flag Junio C Hamano
2022-02-11 20:01       ` [PATCH v5 " John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-11 20:01         ` [PATCH v5 1/3] cat-file: rename cmdmode to transform_mode John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-11 20:01         ` [PATCH v5 2/3] cat-file: introduce batch_mode enum to replace print_contents John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-11 20:01         ` [PATCH v5 3/3] cat-file: add --batch-command mode John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-14 13:59           ` Phillip Wood
2022-02-14 16:19             ` John Cai
2022-02-14 18:23         ` [PATCH v6 0/4] Add cat-file --batch-command flag John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-14 18:23           ` [PATCH v6 1/4] cat-file: rename cmdmode to transform_mode John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-14 18:23           ` [PATCH v6 2/4] cat-file: introduce batch_mode enum to replace print_contents John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-14 18:23           ` [PATCH v6 3/4] cat-file: add remove_timestamp helper John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-14 18:23           ` [PATCH v6 4/4] cat-file: add --batch-command mode John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-15 19:39             ` Eric Sunshine
2022-02-15 22:58               ` John Cai
2022-02-15 23:20                 ` Eric Sunshine
2022-02-16  0:53           ` [PATCH v7 0/4] Add cat-file --batch-command flag John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-16  0:53             ` [PATCH v7 1/4] cat-file: rename cmdmode to transform_mode John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-16  0:53             ` [PATCH v7 2/4] cat-file: introduce batch_mode enum to replace print_contents John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-16  0:53             ` [PATCH v7 3/4] cat-file: add remove_timestamp helper John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-16  0:53             ` [PATCH v7 4/4] cat-file: add --batch-command mode John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-16  1:28               ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-16  2:48                 ` John Cai
2022-02-16  3:00                   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-16  3:17                     ` Eric Sunshine
2022-02-16  3:01                   ` Eric Sunshine
2022-02-16 15:02             ` [PATCH v8 0/4] Add cat-file --batch-command flag John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-16 15:02               ` [PATCH v8 1/4] cat-file: rename cmdmode to transform_mode John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-16 15:02               ` [PATCH v8 2/4] cat-file: introduce batch_mode enum to replace print_contents John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-16 15:02               ` [PATCH v8 3/4] cat-file: add remove_timestamp helper John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-16 15:02               ` [PATCH v8 4/4] cat-file: add --batch-command mode John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-16 17:15                 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-16 17:25                   ` Eric Sunshine
2022-02-16 20:30                     ` John Cai
2022-02-16 20:59               ` [PATCH v9 0/4] Add cat-file --batch-command flag John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-16 20:59                 ` [PATCH v9 1/4] cat-file: rename cmdmode to transform_mode John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-16 20:59                 ` [PATCH v9 2/4] cat-file: introduce batch_mode enum to replace print_contents John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-16 20:59                 ` [PATCH v9 3/4] cat-file: add remove_timestamp helper John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-16 20:59                 ` [PATCH v9 4/4] cat-file: add --batch-command mode John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-18 11:26                   ` Phillip Wood
2022-02-18 16:53                     ` John Cai
2022-02-18 17:32                       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-18 17:23                     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-02-18 18:23                 ` [PATCH v10 0/4] Add cat-file --batch-command flag John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-18 18:23                   ` [PATCH v10 1/4] cat-file: rename cmdmode to transform_mode John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-18 18:23                   ` [PATCH v10 2/4] cat-file: introduce batch_mode enum to replace print_contents John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-18 18:23                   ` [PATCH v10 3/4] cat-file: add remove_timestamp helper John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-19  6:33                     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-22  3:31                       ` John Cai
2022-02-18 18:23                   ` [PATCH v10 4/4] cat-file: add --batch-command mode John Cai via GitGitGadget
2022-02-19  6:35                     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-02-18 19:38                   ` [PATCH v10 0/4] Add cat-file --batch-command flag Junio C Hamano
2022-02-22 11:07                   ` Phillip Wood

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