From: <rsbecker@nexbridge.com>
To: "'Junio C Hamano'" <gitster@pobox.com>,
"'Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason'" <avarab@gmail.com>
Cc: "'Joel Holdsworth'" <jholdsworth@nvidia.com>, <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH 0/6] Transition git-p4.py to support Python 3 only
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2021 16:53:02 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <021001d7ee10$517309a0$f4591ce0$@nexbridge.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqsfv0m9f5.fsf@gitster.g>
On December 10, 2021 4:34 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > On Thu, Dec 09 2021, Joel Holdsworth wrote:
> >
> >> Python 2 was discontinued in 2020, and there is no longer any
> >> officially supported interpreter. Further development of git-p4.py
> >> will require would-be developers to test their changes with all
> >> supported dialects of the language. However, if there is no longer
> >> any supported runtime environment available, this places an
> >> unreasonable burden on the Git project to maintain support for an
> obselete dialect of the language.
> >
> > Does it? I can still install Python 2.7 on Debian, presumably other
> > OS's have similar ways to easily test it.
>
> Yes, that is a good point to make against "we cannot maintain the half meant
> to cater to Python2 of the script". Developers should be able to keep and
> test Python2 support, if it is necessary.
>
> So the more important question is if there are end-users that have no choice
> but sticking to Python2. Is there distributions and systems that do not offer
> Python3, on which end-users have happily been using Python2? If some
> users with vendor supported Python2 do not have access to Python3, cutting
> them off may be premature.
>
> As the general direction, I do not mind deprecating support for Python2, and
> then eventually removing it. I just do not know if 2 years is long enough for
> the latter (IIRC, the sunset happened at the beginning of 2020, and we are
> about to end 2021).
The HPE NonStop Itanium platform only provides Python 2.7. That is the last version that will be available on that platform until it goes off support some time in the next few years (there are known very large US companies who are git users on that platform but I cannot share their names here). The NonStop x86 platform is currently on Python 3.6.8 but I have to take action to select the python3 object - not a big deal. Since I am continually running the git test suite with each release, the python 2 code can continue to be tested. Python 2 is also available on our x86 machine for backward compatibility reasons - it may vanish at some point but that isn’t scheduled yet.
-Randall
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-12-10 21:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-12-09 20:10 [PATCH 0/6] Transition git-p4.py to support Python 3 only Joel Holdsworth
2021-12-09 20:10 ` [PATCH 1/6] git-p4: Always pass cmd arguments to subprocess as a python lists Joel Holdsworth
2021-12-09 22:42 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-12-09 20:10 ` [PATCH 2/6] git-p4: Don't print shell commands as " Joel Holdsworth
2021-12-09 20:10 ` [PATCH 3/6] git-p4: Removed support for Python 2 Joel Holdsworth
2021-12-09 22:44 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-12-09 23:07 ` rsbecker
2021-12-10 3:25 ` David Aguilar
2021-12-10 10:44 ` Joel Holdsworth
2021-12-09 20:10 ` [PATCH 4/6] git-p4: Decode byte strings before printing Joel Holdsworth
2021-12-09 22:47 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-12-10 8:40 ` Fabian Stelzer
2021-12-10 10:48 ` Joel Holdsworth
2021-12-10 10:41 ` Joel Holdsworth
2021-12-09 20:10 ` [PATCH 5/6] git-p4: Eliminate decode_stream and encode_stream Joel Holdsworth
2021-12-09 20:10 ` [PATCH 6/6] git-p4: Resolve RCS keywords in binary Joel Holdsworth
2021-12-10 7:57 ` Luke Diamand
2021-12-10 10:51 ` Joel Holdsworth
2021-12-10 0:48 ` [PATCH 0/6] Transition git-p4.py to support Python 3 only Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-10 10:37 ` Joel Holdsworth
2021-12-10 11:30 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-10 21:34 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-12-10 21:53 ` rsbecker [this message]
2021-12-11 21:00 ` Elijah Newren
2021-12-12 8:55 ` Luke Diamand
2021-12-10 7:53 ` Luke Diamand
2021-12-10 10:54 ` Joel Holdsworth
2021-12-11 9:58 ` Luke Diamand
2021-12-13 13:47 ` Joel Holdsworth
2021-12-13 19:29 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-12-13 19:58 ` Joel Holdsworth
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