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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: Johannes Schindelin <johannes.schindelin@gmx.de>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] PREVIEW: Introduce DC_AND_OPENSSL_SHA1 make flag
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 10:15:07 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqy3vq1w10.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170327070909.26ojhkhagf6pq3wp@sigill.intra.peff.net> (Jeff King's message of "Mon, 27 Mar 2017 03:09:09 -0400")

Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:

> Yeah, I think we can assume it will be possible with SHAttered levels of
> effort. An attacker can use it to create a persistent corruption by
> having somebody fetch from them twice. So not really that interesting an
> attack, but it is something. I still think that ditching SHA-1 for the
> naming is probably a better fix than worrying about SHA-1 collisions.

Yes, I agree with that part.  

Our trailer checksum happens to be SHA-1 mostly because the code was
available, not because they need to be a crypto-strong hash.  It can
safely be changed to something other than SHA-1 that is much faster,
if that is desired, when it is used only for bit-flip detection of
local files like the index file.

I also agree that changing the naming scheme (e.g. use the "hash" as
a hash to choose hash-bucket but accept the fact that hashes can
collide) is a better solution, if this "packname can collide" were
to become real problem.

Thanks.


  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-27 17:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-24 23:24 [PATCH 0/7] PREVIEW: Introduce DC_AND_OPENSSL_SHA1 make flag Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-24 23:24 ` [PATCH 1/7] sha1dc: safeguard against outside definitions of BIGENDIAN Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-24 23:24 ` [PATCH 2/7] Makefile: optionally compile with both SHA1DC and SHA1_OPENSSL Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-25 19:51   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2017-03-30 16:16   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-03-30 16:47     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-04-18 11:28     ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-24 23:24 ` [PATCH 3/7] config: add the core.enablesha1dc setting Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-24 23:25 ` [PATCH 4/7] t0013: do not skip the entire file wholesale without DC_SHA1 Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-24 23:25 ` [PATCH 5/7] t0013: test DC_AND_OPENSSL_SHA1, too Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-24 23:28 ` [PATCH 6/7] mingw: enable DC_AND_OPENSSL_SHA1 by default Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-24 23:28 ` [PATCH 7/7] p0013: new test to compare SHA1DC vs OpenSSL Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-25  6:37 ` [PATCH 0/7] PREVIEW: Introduce DC_AND_OPENSSL_SHA1 make flag Junio C Hamano
2017-03-25 16:58   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-03-26  6:18   ` Jeff King
2017-03-26 23:16     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-03-27  1:11       ` Jeff King
2017-03-27  6:07         ` Junio C Hamano
2017-03-27  7:09           ` Jeff King
2017-03-27 17:15             ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2017-03-29 20:02   ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-03-30  0:31     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-04-18 11:30       ` Johannes Schindelin

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