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From: Stefan Beller <sbeller@google.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: "Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy" <pclouds@gmail.com>,
	"git@vger.kernel.org" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	"Sebastian Schuberth" <sschuberth@gmail.com>,
	"Matthieu Moy" <Matthieu.Moy@grenoble-inp.fr>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/1] config: add conditional include
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 10:39:28 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGZ79kbMP5n3Pteq1OtOzK69dZkv1QmpiFm8jhYV7+LKVHvi3A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170307084717.i2jru77v3rhd443e@sigill.intra.peff.net>

On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 12:47 AM, Jeff King <peff@peff.net> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 06, 2017 at 02:44:27PM -0800, Stefan Beller wrote:
>
>> > +static int include_condition_is_true(const char *cond, size_t cond_len)
>> > +{
>> ...
>> > +
>> > +       error(_("unrecognized include condition: %.*s"), (int)cond_len, cond);
>> > +       /* unknown conditionals are always false */
>> > +       return 0;
>> > +}
>>
>> Thanks for putting an error message here. I was looking at what
>> is currently queued as origin/nd/conditional-config-include,
>> which doesn't have this error()  (yet / not any more?)
>
> It's "not any more". It was in the original and I asked for it to be
> removed during the last review.

Okay. The joys of contradicting opinions on a mailing list. :)

>
>> I'd strongly suggest to keep the error message here as that way
>> a user can diagnose e.g. a typo in the condition easily.
>>
>> If we plan to extend this list of conditions in the future, and a user
>> switches between versions of git, then they may see this message
>> on a regular basis (whenever they use the 'old' version).
>
> That would make it unlike the rest of the config-include mechanism
> (which quietly ignores things it doesn't understand, like include.foo,
> or include.foo.path), as well as the config code in general (which
> ignores misspelt keys).
>
> Some of that "quiet when you don't understand it" is historical
> necessity. Older versions _can't_ complain about not knowing
> include.path, because they don't yet know it's worth complaining about.

agreed

> Likewise here, if this ships in v2.13 and a new condition "foo:" ships
> in v2.14, you get:
>
>   v2.12 - no complaint; we don't even understand includeIf at all
>   v2.13 - complain; we know includeIf, but not "foo:"
>   v2.14 - works as expected
>
> Which is kind of weird and inconsistent. But maybe the typo-detection
> case is more important to get right than consistency across historical
> versions.

Oh, I see. I was contemplating a future in which 2.12 is not used anymore.

When looking at other examples, such as url.<...>.insteadOf we also do not
warn about typos (well we can't actually).

In diff.<driver>.(command/binary/..) we know the limited set of drivers,
which is similar to the situation we have here.

Maybe a compromise between typo checking (edit distance < 2 -> warn;
silent for larger distances) and the consistency over time is desired.
But this is even more code to write.

So for now I retract my strong opinion and be happy with what is
presented as-is for the reasons Peff gave.

Thanks,
Stefan

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-07 18:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-23 12:23 [PATCH v5 0/1] Conditional config include Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2017-02-23 12:23 ` [PATCH v5 1/1] config: add conditional include Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2017-02-23 19:59   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-02-24  9:37     ` Duy Nguyen
2017-02-24 17:46       ` Junio C Hamano
2017-02-26  6:07         ` Jeff King
2017-02-27 18:42           ` Junio C Hamano
2017-03-06 22:44   ` Stefan Beller
2017-03-07  8:47     ` Jeff King
2017-03-07 18:39       ` Stefan Beller [this message]
2017-02-24 13:14 ` [PATCH v6 0/1] Conditional config include Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2017-02-24 13:14   ` [PATCH v6 1/1] config: add conditional include Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2017-02-24 18:35     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-02-24 19:48     ` Ramsay Jones
2017-02-24 22:08     ` Philip Oakley
2017-02-26  3:02       ` Duy Nguyen
2017-02-26 12:27         ` Philip Oakley
2017-02-24 13:14   ` [PATCH v6 0/1] Conditional config include Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2017-02-24 13:18     ` Duy Nguyen
2017-02-24 13:14   ` [PATCH v6 1/1] config: add conditional include Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2017-02-26  6:12     ` Jeff King
2017-03-01 11:26   ` [PATCH v7 0/3] Conditional config include Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2017-03-01 11:26     ` [PATCH v7 1/3] config.txt: clarify multiple key values in include.path Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2017-03-01 17:40       ` Junio C Hamano
2017-03-01 11:26     ` [PATCH v7 2/3] config.txt: reflow the second include.path paragraph Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2017-03-01 11:26     ` [PATCH v7 3/3] config: add conditional include Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2017-03-01 17:16       ` Ramsay Jones
2017-03-01 17:47       ` Junio C Hamano
2017-03-03  6:30         ` Jeff King
2017-03-03 19:05           ` Junio C Hamano
2017-03-03 22:24             ` Jeff King
2017-03-01 17:52     ` [PATCH v7 0/3] Conditional config include Junio C Hamano
2017-03-03  6:33     ` Jeff King
2017-03-03  9:52       ` Duy Nguyen
2017-03-03 19:13         ` Junio C Hamano
2017-03-03 21:08         ` Junio C Hamano
2017-03-03 18:24       ` Junio C Hamano
2017-03-03 22:22         ` Jeff King
2017-03-03 23:22           ` Junio C Hamano

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