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From: Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: Eric Wong <e@80x24.org>, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	"Kyle J. McKay" <mackyle@gmail.com>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] pager: move pager-specific setup into the build
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 20:01:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACsJy8CLNtbAvRxVtX_9qZ0cahce7cFfk=wh78Wm99Qf5B8HRw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160801175216.payv2zrc3mkvkbmz@sigill.intra.peff.net>

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 7:52 PM, Jeff King <peff@peff.net> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 01, 2016 at 07:46:34PM +0200, Duy Nguyen wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 3:05 AM, Eric Wong <e@80x24.org> wrote:
>> > From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
>> >
>> > Allowing PAGER_ENV to be set at build-time allows us to move
>> > pager-specific knowledge out of our build.  Currently, this
>> > allows us to set a better default for FreeBSD where more(1)
>> > is the same binary as less(1).
>>
>> Nice. I was just too lazy to do something like this and "export
>> PAGER=less LESS=FRX" then ignored it :-P
>>
>> Slightly off topic, but pagers like 'more' does not understand colors
>> either. But color.ui = auto does not know what and prints color code
>> anyway. It would be nice if we had some configuration to describe
>> "this pager can show colors, that pager does not" so I don't have to
>> maintain separate .gitconfig files on two platforms.
>
> If you are interested, I suggest you read the thread linked earlier:
>
>   https://public-inbox.org/git/52D87A79.6060600%40rawbw.com/T/#u
>
> which discusses this and other issues. But basically, I think you cannot
> really solve this without getting intimate with each pager (which people
> seemed not to want to do).

Cooking pager specifics in git does sound bad. But it does not have to
be that way. What if we delegate the decision whether to color or not
to a script (e.g. by setting color.ui= "script <path to the script>")?
The script has all the info (env variables, uname, user preference...)
and can make a better decision than 'is stdout a tty?'. It's not about
out of the box experience, more towards customization (without
fragmenting .gitconfig files too much).
-- 
Duy

  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-01 19:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-01  1:05 [PATCH 0/2] add PAGER_ENV to build and core.pagerEnv to config Eric Wong
2016-08-01  1:05 ` [PATCH 1/2] pager: move pager-specific setup into the build Eric Wong
2016-08-01  1:43   ` brian m. carlson
2016-08-01  7:00     ` Eric Wong
2016-08-01  8:57       ` Jakub Narębski
2016-08-01 10:40         ` brian m. carlson
2016-08-01 17:24     ` Jeff King
2016-08-01 18:07       ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-01 17:46   ` Duy Nguyen
2016-08-01 17:52     ` Jeff King
2016-08-01 18:01       ` Duy Nguyen [this message]
2016-08-01 18:07         ` Jeff King
2016-08-01  1:05 ` [PATCH 2/2] pager: implement core.pagerEnv in config Eric Wong
2016-08-01 17:28   ` Jeff King
2016-08-01 21:49 ` [PATCH 0/1 v2] add PAGER_ENV to build Eric Wong
2016-08-01 21:49   ` [PATCH 1/1 v2] pager: move pager-specific setup into the build Eric Wong
2016-08-01 23:03     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-01 23:46       ` Jeff King
2016-08-02 21:14         ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-01 23:56       ` Eric Wong
2016-08-02 21:15         ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-03 16:19     ` Jeff King
2016-08-03 20:57       ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-03 21:08         ` Eric Wong
2016-08-03 21:15           ` Junio C Hamano
2016-08-04  3:43             ` [PATCH v3] " Eric Wong
2016-08-04  5:34               ` Jeff King
2016-08-04 11:34                 ` Eric Wong
2016-08-04 17:53                   ` Jeff King
2016-08-04 11:40               ` [PATCH v4] " Eric Wong
2016-08-03 21:09         ` [PATCH 1/1 v2] " Jeff King
2016-08-01 21:59   ` [PATCH 0/1 v2] add PAGER_ENV to build Jeff King

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