From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: "Clemens Buchacher" <drizzd@aon.at>,
"SZEDER Gábor" <szeder@ira.uka.de>,
git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [BUG] 'add -u' doesn't work from untracked subdir
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 03:20:17 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090905072017.GA5152@coredump.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7v8wgt98ms.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org>
On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 12:02:35AM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> The intent of 1.7.0 is to fix usability glitches and warts that everybody
> has long agreed are problematic. People have *just started* discussing
> about this---it is not remotely close to "everybody has long agreed are
> problematic" criteria. It is too late for 1.7.0.
What about a config option that could change the behavior? True, the
time-frame for discussion is much shorter, but we are not proposing to
make a change that would affect users who do not agree to it. And I
think the point of giving a long time-frame for discussion is to let
people decide whether a change that users do not agree to may affect
them in a bad way.
The real danger here is that users of the config option may be breaking
an interface that is used by scripts. But I feel that 1.7.0 is probably
the best time in the forseeable future to do that, as script-writers
already must be wary of the version change.
> I personally find "add -u" that defaults to the current directory more
> natural than always going to the root; same preference for "grep".
> Besides, "add -u subdir" must add subdir relative to the cwd, without
> going to the root. Why should "add -u" sans argument behave drastically
> differently?
I agree that there is a certain consistency to the current behavior. But
I also find it terribly annoying, because I _always_ want it to do the
other thing, and it silently accepts the command without even telling
me, leaving me to find out ten minutes later that what I thought was
added was not ("git add", by contrast, yells at you in the same
situation).
I also happen to prefer the other behavior because it is easy to switch
the two options: "git add -u" versus "git add -u .", whereas with
current behavior I am stuck calculating (and typing) the correct number
of "../" markers.
But I respect the fact that even if we had infinite time for discussion,
there would be people who prefer it the opposite way to me. So how about
that config option?
> Speaking of cwd-ness, I sometimes find ls-tree irritating, but I think
> this is in "if we had known better we would have designed it differently,
> but because we didn't, because many scripts already depend on the current
> behaviour, and because we have an --full-name escape hatch, we are not
> likely to change it, ever" category.
I assume you mean "ls-files". I have every once in a while been annoyed
by that, but given how infrequently I run ls-files, it is not a big
deal. :)
> If "git add -u ../.." (I mean "the grand parent directory", not "an
> unnamed subdirectory") did not work, it would be unexcusable and we would
> want to devise an migration path, but otherwise I do not think it is such
> a big deal. I would say the commands that are used to incrementally build
As I mentioned above, not only is that annoying to use, but the real
problem is that I _expect_ the other behavior and it silently does the
opposite of what I want. You can argue that my brain is defective (for
not remembering, I mean -- we _know_ it's defective in other ways), but
certainly a config option would be useful to me.
> Oh, "git grep -e foo ../..", however, does not seem to work. That might be
> something people may want to tackle.
Thanks for mentioning "git grep"; I had forgotten that I have been
bitten by expecting full-tree behavior from that in the past, too. A
config option should cover that, too. ;)
-Peff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-09-05 7:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-09-02 8:03 [BUG] 'add -u' doesn't work from untracked subdir SZEDER Gábor
2009-09-02 8:19 ` Jeff King
2009-09-04 7:02 ` Clemens Buchacher
2009-09-05 6:18 ` Jeff King
2009-09-05 7:02 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-09-05 7:20 ` Jeff King [this message]
2009-09-05 7:58 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-09-05 8:02 ` Jeff King
2009-09-05 8:23 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-09-06 18:28 ` Clemens Buchacher
2009-09-09 23:46 ` Nanako Shiraishi
2009-09-10 19:53 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-09-10 20:32 ` Clemens Buchacher
2009-09-05 12:31 ` [PATCH 1/2] grep: accept relative paths outside current working directory Clemens Buchacher
2009-09-05 12:33 ` [PATCH 2/2] add 'scope' config option Clemens Buchacher
2009-09-05 13:10 ` [PATCH 2/2 v2] " Clemens Buchacher
2009-09-06 22:58 ` [PATCH 1/2] grep: accept relative paths outside current working directory Junio C Hamano
2009-09-07 8:48 ` [PATCH] grep: fix exit status if external_grep() returns error Clemens Buchacher
2009-09-07 18:13 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-09-05 8:19 ` [BUG] 'add -u' doesn't work from untracked subdir Jeff King
2009-09-05 7:25 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-09-05 8:46 ` Clemens Buchacher
2009-09-05 17:28 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-09-05 17:58 ` Jakub Narebski
2009-09-05 18:45 ` Clemens Buchacher
2009-09-05 21:46 ` 'add -u' without path is relative to cwd Junio C Hamano
2009-09-06 12:32 ` [BUG] 'add -u' doesn't work from untracked subdir Matthieu Moy
2009-09-06 18:16 ` Clemens Buchacher
2009-09-07 6:23 ` Matthieu Moy
2009-09-07 7:33 ` SZEDER Gábor
2009-09-07 8:06 ` Matthieu Moy
2009-09-07 0:07 ` Nanako Shiraishi
2009-09-07 5:07 ` Junio C Hamano
2009-09-07 7:50 ` Clemens Buchacher
2009-09-04 8:32 ` SZEDER Gábor
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