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[216.229.72.26]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 110sm11302983otc.39.2016.12.08.11.58.23 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 08 Dec 2016 11:58:45 -0800 (PST) > > > Dr. Mark Bugeja wrote: > > > > > > If Sox does not preserve loops and cues yet.... then please > > > add that to the wish list. It would be very handy for several > > > people doing serious digital sound processing. :-) Keep in mind, SoX is used by a lot of us for a lot of different tasks. The one task you are wanting to us it for (joint two mono files into a stereo file) is a very tiny piece of what SoX can do. > > Peter wrote: > > > > I was thinking about the problem of markers in the file > > headers when mixing files together, as Dr. Mark is trying to > > do. What if the markers in the left channel and the right > > channel are not completely identical? I think this is a more > > complicated task than just copying input file markers to the > > output file when mixing. > Dr. wrote: > They are *identical*... In _your_ case, they are identical. But a SoX effect or function can't be added just for _your_ case. At least, not if it doesn't behave well for other cases. > ... and most probably created So what should SoX do if it happens to be something other than "most probably"? SoX is good partly because it does work so predictably even when doing odd or unusual things. > The separation must have been done after to accommodate > for Hauptwerk software's special features. Again - in your case. There is no guarantee, or even a high probability, that other people and other files would be the same situation. Something like "preserving loops and cues" has the potential for being tricky for the reasons Peter wrote. Then, as Jeremy pointed out, they may be in a sidecar file and not in the audio file itself. Have you tested the stereo file you made using SoX? Are the markers intact? If so, your situation is resolved. If not - maybe there is a way to copy the info from one of the mono files to the stereo file. But so far, I haven't seen from you what these "loops and cues" are. You described how you use them - but is it in the header? If so, where? If not the header, then where is it? Is it in a sidecar file like Jeremy described? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Developer Access Program for Intel Xeon Phi Processors Access to Intel Xeon Phi processor-based developer platforms. With one year of Intel Parallel Studio XE. Training and support from Colfax. Order your platform today.http://sdm.link/xeonphi