From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jan Stary Newsgroups: gmane.comp.audio.sox Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: merging mono files Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2016 14:51:53 +0100 Message-ID: <20161209135153.GI62092@www.stare.cz> References: <11f05ac1-4afa-93d1-7563-67607ebeb066@gmail.com> Reply-To: sox-users@lists.sourceforge.net NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1481291533 32036 195.159.176.226 (9 Dec 2016 13:52:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2016 13:52:13 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.1 (2016-10-04) To: sox-users@lists.sourceforge.net Original-X-From: sox-users-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net Fri Dec 09 14:52:08 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcas-sox-users@gmane.org X-ACL-Warn: Mail-Followup-To: sox-users@lists.sourceforge.net Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <11f05ac1-4afa-93d1-7563-67607ebeb066@gmail.com> X-Headers-End: 1cFLai-00052d-C2 X-BeenThere: sox-users@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: sox-users-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.audio.sox:6382 Archived-At: Received: from lists.sourceforge.net ([216.34.181.88]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cFLan-0007NG-Ie for gcas-sox-users@gmane.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2016 14:52:05 +0100 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=sfs-ml-2.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com) by sfs-ml-2.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1cFLal-0008Gp-8N; Fri, 09 Dec 2016 13:52:03 +0000 Received: from sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.193] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-2.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1cFLaj-0008Ge-EQ for sox-users@lists.sourceforge.net; Fri, 09 Dec 2016 13:52:01 +0000 Received: from mx.stare.cz ([79.98.77.229]) by sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) id 1cFLai-00052d-C2 for sox-users@lists.sourceforge.net; Fri, 09 Dec 2016 13:52:01 +0000 Received: from www.stare.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.stare.cz (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id a3824f27 for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2016 14:51:53 +0100 (CET) On Dec 08 14:36:54, marcusfb@gmail.com wrote: > Loops are markers that allow appropriate software to keep sounding a note > (recorded sample) played digitally on a MIDI keyboard for as long as the > note is held down even though the recorded sample may be of only a few > seconds' duration. > > The release marker is placed in the point where the note is released in the > actual recorded sample and where the sounds starts to fade away. The > software needs to know that moment especially if there are multiple releases > available for that note that would represent "staccato", "portato" and > longer held notes. This exercise renders more realism when recorded samples > are played from a "sampleset" loaded in software like jOrgan, GrandOrgue and > Hauptwerk. This would be a perfect beginning of your original post. Now I understand why you need to preserve them: you are building and actual sample library to be used with MIDI. Indeed, attack and sustain and release and decay are indisposable. > Picture (42kB): > https://mega.nz/#!dQIwkDKI!QlrmlYHywFqpG9ujJfJLBm_1skxaYz88AJJJy4Euxs0 An error occurred while loading MEGA. Filename: :0 Exception: out of memory Please try again later. We apologize for the inconvenience > In the example demonstated there is no release marker as the "tail" of the > waveform was removed and saved as a separate file. So the end of a loops > would be the release marker in such instances. > > Clearly from this picture loops and markers were not retained in the merger > using sox though the exercise was purely a simple exercise without any > frills of extra codes. I don't have the picture, but I thnik I can picture it. How is a piece of audio software (a clickwty editor) expected to display a waveform with cue points such as release? Especially if there is more than one possible release point? Can you please post some of the original files (that do have the markers) so that we make actually look at them? Jan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Developer Access Program for Intel Xeon Phi Processors Access to Intel Xeon Phi processor-based developer platforms. With one year of Intel Parallel Studio XE. Training and support from Colfax. Order your platform today.http://sdm.link/xeonphi