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From: "byroot (Jean Boussier)" <noreply@ruby-lang.org>
To: ruby-core@ruby-lang.org
Subject: [ruby-core:109974] [Ruby master Feature#10320] require into module
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2022 10:26:44 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <redmine.journal-99224.20220921102644.7501@ruby-lang.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: redmine.issue-10320.20141002224417.7501@ruby-lang.org

Issue #10320 has been updated by byroot (Jean Boussier).


> I guess that the ultimate goal is to modularize the monolith to microservices, and that this proposal is for the intermediate stage (i.e., to modularize the monolith in a process). Am I right?

No, we have absolutely no intention to go with microservices, quite the opposite. The goal is to modularize in process so that you can more easily enforce that certain areas are decoupled from others without having to deal with the headaches of network calls.

> This approach looks not very robust. If there is a constant Foo defined in the top-level, I think it does not work.

Yeah, IMHO it uses too many fragile monkey patches and Tracepoint hooks to approximate the desired result. I think such a feature would need to be baked in Ruby itself with probably a keyword etc. But in the meantime "Im" is an interesting experimentation ground.

Also if such first class feature was to be designed, I think the Python import system would be a better model than NodeJS's `require()`.


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Feature #10320: require into module
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/10320#change-99224

* Author: sowieso (So Wieso)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
When requiring a library, global namespace always gets polluted, at least with one module name. So when requiring a gem with many dependencies, at least one constant enters global namespace per dependency, which can easily get out of hand (especially when gems are not enclosed in a module).

Would it be possible to extend require (and load, require_relative) to put all content into a custom module and not into global namespace?

Syntax ideas:

~~~ruby
require 'libfile', into: :Lib   # keyword-argument
require 'libfile' in Lib   # with keyword, also defining a module Lib at current binding (unless defined? Lib)
require_qualified 'libfile', :Lib
~~~

This would also make including code into libraries much easier, as it is well scoped.

~~~ruby
module MyGem
  require 'needed' in Need

  def do_something
    Need::important.process!
  end
end
 # library user is never concerned over needed's content
~~~

Some problems to discuss:

* requiring into two different modules means loading the file twice?
* monkeypatching libraries should only affect the module ­→ auto refinements?
* maybe also allow a binding as argument, not only a module?
* privately require, so that required constants and methods are not accessible from the outside of a module (seems to difficult)
* what about $global constants, read them from global scope but copy-write them only to local scope?

Similar issue:
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/5643



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-09-21 10:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2021-06-10  5:51 ` [ruby-core:104226] [Ruby master Feature#10320] require into module j.ruby-lang
2021-06-10  6:18 ` [ruby-core:104227] " branzeanu.aurel
2021-06-10  8:15 ` [ruby-core:104228] " j.ruby-lang
2022-09-15  3:19 ` [ruby-core:109898] " shioyama (Chris Salzberg)
2022-09-16  6:52 ` [ruby-core:109915] " Eregon (Benoit Daloze)
2022-09-16  7:34 ` [ruby-core:109916] " shyouhei (Shyouhei Urabe)
2022-09-16 10:52 ` [ruby-core:109918] " nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada)
2022-09-16 21:45 ` [ruby-core:109923] " byroot (Jean Boussier)
2022-09-17  1:53 ` [ruby-core:109925] " shioyama (Chris Salzberg)
2022-09-17  2:00 ` [ruby-core:109926] " shioyama (Chris Salzberg)
2022-09-17  2:32 ` [ruby-core:109927] " shioyama (Chris Salzberg)
2022-09-18 10:43 ` [ruby-core:109946] " shyouhei (Shyouhei Urabe)
2022-09-19  8:25 ` [ruby-core:109955] " duerst
2022-09-19  8:32 ` [ruby-core:109956] " byroot (Jean Boussier)
2022-09-19 17:23 ` [ruby-core:109959] " vo.x (Vit Ondruch)
2022-09-20 10:58 ` [ruby-core:109960] " retro
2022-09-21  9:46 ` [ruby-core:109973] " mame (Yusuke Endoh)
2022-09-21 10:26 ` byroot (Jean Boussier) [this message]
2022-09-21 12:39 ` [ruby-core:109979] " shioyama (Chris Salzberg)
2022-09-21 17:08 ` [ruby-core:109981] " mame (Yusuke Endoh)
2022-09-21 18:11 ` [ruby-core:109982] " jeremyevans0 (Jeremy Evans)
2022-09-25 12:54 ` [ruby-core:110071] " shioyama (Chris Salzberg)
2022-09-27  0:54 ` [ruby-core:110098] " shioyama (Chris Salzberg)

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