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* [ruby-core:107651] [Ruby master Misc#18591] DevMeeting-2022-03-17
@ 2022-02-18  2:31 mame (Yusuke Endoh)
  2022-02-22  9:27 ` [ruby-core:107708] " shugo (Shugo Maeda)
                   ` (9 more replies)
  0 siblings, 10 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: mame (Yusuke Endoh) @ 2022-02-18  2:31 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: ruby-core

Issue #18591 has been reported by mame (Yusuke Endoh).

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Misc #18591: DevMeeting-2022-03-17
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/18591

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2022/03/17 13:00-17:00** (JST)
Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a record of the discussion in the file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place of the meeting are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- It is recommended to add a comment by 2022/03/14. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting.
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion.




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* [ruby-core:107708] [Ruby master Misc#18591] DevMeeting-2022-03-17
  2022-02-18  2:31 [ruby-core:107651] [Ruby master Misc#18591] DevMeeting-2022-03-17 mame (Yusuke Endoh)
@ 2022-02-22  9:27 ` shugo (Shugo Maeda)
  2022-02-28  9:14 ` [ruby-core:107759] " byroot (Jean Boussier)
                   ` (8 subsequent siblings)
  9 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: shugo (Shugo Maeda) @ 2022-02-22  9:27 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: ruby-core

Issue #18591 has been updated by shugo (Shugo Maeda).


* [Feature #18598] Add String#bytesplice
    * I withdrew the proposal of String#bytesplice in #13110 because it may cause problems if the specified offset does not land on character boundary.
       But how about to raise IndexError in such cases?

```
# encoding: utf-8

s = "あいうえおかきくけこ"
s.bytesplice(9, 6, "xx")
p s #=> "あいうxxかきくけこ"
s.bytesplice(2, 3, "x") #=> offset 2 does not land on character boundary (IndexError)
s.bytesplice(3, 4, "x") #=> offset 7 does not land on character boundary (IndexError)
```

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Misc #18591: DevMeeting-2022-03-17
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/18591#change-96628

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2022/03/17 13:00-17:00** (JST)
Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a record of the discussion in the file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place of the meeting are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- It is recommended to add a comment by 2022/03/14. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting.
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion.




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* [ruby-core:107759] [Ruby master Misc#18591] DevMeeting-2022-03-17
  2022-02-18  2:31 [ruby-core:107651] [Ruby master Misc#18591] DevMeeting-2022-03-17 mame (Yusuke Endoh)
  2022-02-22  9:27 ` [ruby-core:107708] " shugo (Shugo Maeda)
@ 2022-02-28  9:14 ` byroot (Jean Boussier)
  2022-03-04 17:46 ` [ruby-core:107781] " kddeisz (Kevin Newton)
                   ` (7 subsequent siblings)
  9 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: byroot (Jean Boussier) @ 2022-02-28  9:14 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: ruby-core

Issue #18591 has been updated by byroot (Jean Boussier).


* [Feature #18576] Rename `ASCII-8BIT` encoding to `BINARY`
  - The patch is ready.
  - I'd like to make the change for 3.2.0-preview1, so that we can get early feedback and if it's negative revert before final release.
  - Matz last statement is ambiguous, does it means OK for 3.2.0-preview1?
  - There's an open question on wether C API should alias `*ascii8bit*` functions too.


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Misc #18591: DevMeeting-2022-03-17
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/18591#change-96684

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2022/03/17 13:00-17:00** (JST)
Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a record of the discussion in the file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place of the meeting are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- It is recommended to add a comment by 2022/03/14. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting.
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion.




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* [ruby-core:107781] [Ruby master Misc#18591] DevMeeting-2022-03-17
  2022-02-18  2:31 [ruby-core:107651] [Ruby master Misc#18591] DevMeeting-2022-03-17 mame (Yusuke Endoh)
  2022-02-22  9:27 ` [ruby-core:107708] " shugo (Shugo Maeda)
  2022-02-28  9:14 ` [ruby-core:107759] " byroot (Jean Boussier)
@ 2022-03-04 17:46 ` kddeisz (Kevin Newton)
  2022-03-08 13:04 ` [ruby-core:107795] " Eregon (Benoit Daloze)
                   ` (6 subsequent siblings)
  9 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: kddeisz (Kevin Newton) @ 2022-03-04 17:46 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: ruby-core

Issue #18591 has been updated by kddeisz (Kevin Newton).


* [Feature #18589] Finer-grained constant invalidation
  * We want to trade a very small memory increase for much better constant cache invalidation.
  * This will allow relying on more stable constant caches for better code specialization in JITs.
  * This can also help speed up initial boot times since caches are currently invalidated each time a class is created.
  * Because of APIs like Object#extend, ActiveRecord::Relation#extending, and autoload, constant caches get busted far more often than they should in production applications, and has a measurable impact on request speed.

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Misc #18591: DevMeeting-2022-03-17
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/18591#change-96702

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2022/03/17 13:00-17:00** (JST)
Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a record of the discussion in the file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place of the meeting are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- It is recommended to add a comment by 2022/03/14. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting.
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion.




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* [ruby-core:107795] [Ruby master Misc#18591] DevMeeting-2022-03-17
  2022-02-18  2:31 [ruby-core:107651] [Ruby master Misc#18591] DevMeeting-2022-03-17 mame (Yusuke Endoh)
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2022-03-04 17:46 ` [ruby-core:107781] " kddeisz (Kevin Newton)
@ 2022-03-08 13:04 ` Eregon (Benoit Daloze)
  2022-03-09  7:06 ` [ruby-core:107802] " znz (Kazuhiro NISHIYAMA)
                   ` (5 subsequent siblings)
  9 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Eregon (Benoit Daloze) @ 2022-03-08 13:04 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: ruby-core

Issue #18591 has been updated by Eregon (Benoit Daloze).


* [Feature #18615] Use -Werror=implicit-function-declaration by default for building C extensions (eregon)
  * OK to do it? It seems an obvious gain and will avoid many confusing errors which happen too late and instead make them clear and early.


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Misc #18591: DevMeeting-2022-03-17
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/18591#change-96719

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2022/03/17 13:00-17:00** (JST)
Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a record of the discussion in the file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place of the meeting are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- It is recommended to add a comment by 2022/03/14. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting.
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion.




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* [ruby-core:107802] [Ruby master Misc#18591] DevMeeting-2022-03-17
  2022-02-18  2:31 [ruby-core:107651] [Ruby master Misc#18591] DevMeeting-2022-03-17 mame (Yusuke Endoh)
                   ` (3 preceding siblings ...)
  2022-03-08 13:04 ` [ruby-core:107795] " Eregon (Benoit Daloze)
@ 2022-03-09  7:06 ` znz (Kazuhiro NISHIYAMA)
  2022-03-09  7:51 ` [ruby-core:107803] " byroot (Jean Boussier)
                   ` (4 subsequent siblings)
  9 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: znz (Kazuhiro NISHIYAMA) @ 2022-03-09  7:06 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: ruby-core

Issue #18591 has been updated by znz (Kazuhiro NISHIYAMA).


* [Feature #18563] Add "graphemes" and "each_grapheme" aliases (znz)
  * Some languages already use graphemes.

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Misc #18591: DevMeeting-2022-03-17
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/18591#change-96728

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2022/03/17 13:00-17:00** (JST)
Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a record of the discussion in the file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place of the meeting are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- It is recommended to add a comment by 2022/03/14. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting.
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion.




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* [ruby-core:107803] [Ruby master Misc#18591] DevMeeting-2022-03-17
  2022-02-18  2:31 [ruby-core:107651] [Ruby master Misc#18591] DevMeeting-2022-03-17 mame (Yusuke Endoh)
                   ` (4 preceding siblings ...)
  2022-03-09  7:06 ` [ruby-core:107802] " znz (Kazuhiro NISHIYAMA)
@ 2022-03-09  7:51 ` byroot (Jean Boussier)
  2022-03-10 21:24 ` [ruby-core:107843] " jeremyevans0 (Jeremy Evans)
                   ` (3 subsequent siblings)
  9 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: byroot (Jean Boussier) @ 2022-03-09  7:51 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: ruby-core

Issue #18591 has been updated by byroot (Jean Boussier).


[Feature #18566] Merge `io-wait` gem into core `IO` class. (byroot)
  - It's very small and any non-trivial IO code will require it.
  - Merge io-wait into io.c for Ruby 3.2
  - Remove io-wait as a dependency of all gems maintained by ruby-core (e.g. net-protocol).
  - Publish a new io-wait version that is simply an empty gem.
  - Add a `lib/io/wait.rb` stub, with eventually a verbose deprecation warning.
  - It was suggested to do the same with `io-nonblock`.


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Misc #18591: DevMeeting-2022-03-17
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/18591#change-96730

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2022/03/17 13:00-17:00** (JST)
Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a record of the discussion in the file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place of the meeting are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- It is recommended to add a comment by 2022/03/14. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting.
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion.




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* [ruby-core:107843] [Ruby master Misc#18591] DevMeeting-2022-03-17
  2022-02-18  2:31 [ruby-core:107651] [Ruby master Misc#18591] DevMeeting-2022-03-17 mame (Yusuke Endoh)
                   ` (5 preceding siblings ...)
  2022-03-09  7:51 ` [ruby-core:107803] " byroot (Jean Boussier)
@ 2022-03-10 21:24 ` jeremyevans0 (Jeremy Evans)
  2022-03-14 17:29 ` [ruby-core:107899] " Eregon (Benoit Daloze)
                   ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  9 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: jeremyevans0 (Jeremy Evans) @ 2022-03-10 21:24 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: ruby-core

Issue #18591 has been updated by jeremyevans0 (Jeremy Evans).


* [Bug #18620] Not possible to partially curry lambda or proc's `call` method (jeremyevans0)
  * Should we make changes to allow this to work?  It complicates the internals, and the benefits seem minimal.
  * If we do decide to make this change, I've prepared a patch, but the implementation is suboptimal.
* [Feature #15357] Proc#parameters returns incomplete type information (jeremyevans0)
  * Last discussed at the March 2020 developer meeting, but no decision was made.
  * I still think it makes sense to consider a lambda keyword argument for Proc#parameters.
* [Feature #12655] Accessing the method visibility (jeremyevans0)
  * This issue discusses many things that have been discussed previously in other issues.
  * I want to focus on one additional method: Module#undefined_instance_methods
  * We don't currently offer a way to see which methods are undefined in a module.
  * Is this worth adding?  The use case I know of is it would allow significantly simpler implementation of the looksee gem.
* [Bug #11063] Special singleton class should return true for singleton_class? test (jeremyevans0)
  * I don't think it is worth changing the existing behavior.
  * Can this be rejected?

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Misc #18591: DevMeeting-2022-03-17
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/18591#change-96775

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2022/03/17 13:00-17:00** (JST)
Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a record of the discussion in the file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place of the meeting are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- It is recommended to add a comment by 2022/03/14. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting.
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion.




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* [ruby-core:107899] [Ruby master Misc#18591] DevMeeting-2022-03-17
  2022-02-18  2:31 [ruby-core:107651] [Ruby master Misc#18591] DevMeeting-2022-03-17 mame (Yusuke Endoh)
                   ` (6 preceding siblings ...)
  2022-03-10 21:24 ` [ruby-core:107843] " jeremyevans0 (Jeremy Evans)
@ 2022-03-14 17:29 ` Eregon (Benoit Daloze)
  2022-03-14 17:38 ` [ruby-core:107902] " Eregon (Benoit Daloze)
  2022-03-17  2:52 ` [ruby-core:107936] " ioquatix (Samuel Williams)
  9 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Eregon (Benoit Daloze) @ 2022-03-14 17:29 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: ruby-core

Issue #18591 has been updated by Eregon (Benoit Daloze).


* [Bug #18632] Struct.new wrongly treats a positional Hash as keyword arguments (eregon)
  * Some C functions incorrectly treat a positional Hash as keyword arguments, e.g. Struct.new and Struct#initialize.
  * This is inconsistent with the separation of positional and keyword arguments in Ruby 3
  * Jeremy proposed to audit and fix them
* [Bug #18625] ruby2_keywords does not unmark the hash if the receiving method has a *rest parameter (eregon)
  * This seems a clear inconsistency, and it hurts for 3 reasons:
  * Can cause issues when migrating to other forms of delegation
  * Makes the ruby2_keywords semantics confusing/inconsistent/more complex
  * May force other Ruby implementations to replicate this bug if not fixed
  * I believe we should fix it now. Fixing it later would cause issues when migrating to `(*args, **kwargs)` or `(...)`.



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Misc #18591: DevMeeting-2022-03-17
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/18591#change-96838

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
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# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2022/03/17 13:00-17:00** (JST)
Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
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- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

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* [ruby-core:107902] [Ruby master Misc#18591] DevMeeting-2022-03-17
  2022-02-18  2:31 [ruby-core:107651] [Ruby master Misc#18591] DevMeeting-2022-03-17 mame (Yusuke Endoh)
                   ` (7 preceding siblings ...)
  2022-03-14 17:29 ` [ruby-core:107899] " Eregon (Benoit Daloze)
@ 2022-03-14 17:38 ` Eregon (Benoit Daloze)
  2022-03-17  2:52 ` [ruby-core:107936] " ioquatix (Samuel Williams)
  9 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Eregon (Benoit Daloze) @ 2022-03-14 17:38 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: ruby-core

Issue #18591 has been updated by Eregon (Benoit Daloze).


* [Bug #18633] proc { |a, **kw| a } autosplats and treats empty kwargs specially (eregon)
  * Intended or bug? Should we fix it?


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Misc #18591: DevMeeting-2022-03-17
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/18591#change-96840

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2022/03/17 13:00-17:00** (JST)
Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a record of the discussion in the file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place of the meeting are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
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```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- It is recommended to add a comment by 2022/03/14. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting.
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion.




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* [ruby-core:107936] [Ruby master Misc#18591] DevMeeting-2022-03-17
  2022-02-18  2:31 [ruby-core:107651] [Ruby master Misc#18591] DevMeeting-2022-03-17 mame (Yusuke Endoh)
                   ` (8 preceding siblings ...)
  2022-03-14 17:38 ` [ruby-core:107902] " Eregon (Benoit Daloze)
@ 2022-03-17  2:52 ` ioquatix (Samuel Williams)
  9 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: ioquatix (Samuel Williams) @ 2022-03-17  2:52 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: ruby-core

Issue #18591 has been updated by ioquatix (Samuel Williams).


I am in wrong time zone. if you have time, can you check these?

- [Feature #18630] Introduce general `IO#timeout` and `IO#timeout=`for all (non-)blocking operations.
  - PR is functional. Can we merge it?
- [Bug #18465] Make `IO#write` atomic.
  - When IO is set to sync mode, operations like `puts` should be atomic.
  - Reduce number of times lock is acquired and released per operation.
  - Improves consistency of output to sync IO when used by multiple threads.
  - PR is functional. Can we merge it?

----------------------------------------
Misc #18591: DevMeeting-2022-03-17
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/18591#change-96884

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2022/03/17 13:00-17:00** (JST)
Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a record of the discussion in the file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place of the meeting are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- It is recommended to add a comment by 2022/03/14. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting.
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion.




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