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* [ruby-core:105781] [Ruby master Misc#18266] DevelopersMeeting20211118Japan
@ 2021-10-25  9:11 mame (Yusuke Endoh)
  2021-10-25  9:17 ` [ruby-core:105782] " zverok (Victor Shepelev)
                   ` (11 more replies)
  0 siblings, 12 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: mame (Yusuke Endoh) @ 2021-10-25  9:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ruby-core

Issue #18266 has been reported by mame (Yusuke Endoh).

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Misc #18266: DevelopersMeeting20211118Japan
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/18266

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2021/11/18 13:00-17:00** (JST)
Place/Sign-up/Agenda/Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a log about the discussion to a file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- It is recommended to add a comment by 2021/11/15. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting.
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion.




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* [ruby-core:105782] [Ruby master Misc#18266] DevelopersMeeting20211118Japan
  2021-10-25  9:11 [ruby-core:105781] [Ruby master Misc#18266] DevelopersMeeting20211118Japan mame (Yusuke Endoh)
@ 2021-10-25  9:17 ` zverok (Victor Shepelev)
  2021-10-26  2:28 ` [ruby-core:105797] " shugo (Shugo Maeda)
                   ` (10 subsequent siblings)
  11 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: zverok (Victor Shepelev) @ 2021-10-25  9:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ruby-core

Issue #18266 has been updated by zverok (Victor Shepelev).


* [Feature #18262] `Enumerator::Lazy#partition` (zverok)
  * Part of the effort to make `Lazy` more natural: `#partition` to return two lazy enumerators

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Misc #18266: DevelopersMeeting20211118Japan
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/18266#change-94298

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2021/11/18 13:00-17:00** (JST)
Place/Sign-up/Agenda/Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a log about the discussion to a file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- It is recommended to add a comment by 2021/11/15. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting.
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion.




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* [ruby-core:105797] [Ruby master Misc#18266] DevelopersMeeting20211118Japan
  2021-10-25  9:11 [ruby-core:105781] [Ruby master Misc#18266] DevelopersMeeting20211118Japan mame (Yusuke Endoh)
  2021-10-25  9:17 ` [ruby-core:105782] " zverok (Victor Shepelev)
@ 2021-10-26  2:28 ` shugo (Shugo Maeda)
  2021-10-26 10:39 ` [ruby-core:105807] " shugo (Shugo Maeda)
                   ` (9 subsequent siblings)
  11 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: shugo (Shugo Maeda) @ 2021-10-26  2:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ruby-core

Issue #18266 has been updated by shugo (Shugo Maeda).


* [Feature #12737] Module#defined_refinements (shugo)
* [Feature #14332] Module.used_refinements to list refinement modules (shugo)



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Misc #18266: DevelopersMeeting20211118Japan
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/18266#change-94316

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2021/11/18 13:00-17:00** (JST)
Place/Sign-up/Agenda/Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a log about the discussion to a file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- It is recommended to add a comment by 2021/11/15. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting.
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion.




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* [ruby-core:105807] [Ruby master Misc#18266] DevelopersMeeting20211118Japan
  2021-10-25  9:11 [ruby-core:105781] [Ruby master Misc#18266] DevelopersMeeting20211118Japan mame (Yusuke Endoh)
  2021-10-25  9:17 ` [ruby-core:105782] " zverok (Victor Shepelev)
  2021-10-26  2:28 ` [ruby-core:105797] " shugo (Shugo Maeda)
@ 2021-10-26 10:39 ` shugo (Shugo Maeda)
  2021-10-26 14:44 ` [ruby-core:105809] " Dan0042 (Daniel DeLorme)
                   ` (8 subsequent siblings)
  11 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: shugo (Shugo Maeda) @ 2021-10-26 10:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ruby-core

Issue #18266 has been updated by shugo (Shugo Maeda).


* [Bug #18270] Refinement#{extend_object,append_features,prepend_features} should be removed

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Misc #18266: DevelopersMeeting20211118Japan
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/18266#change-94326

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2021/11/18 13:00-17:00** (JST)
Place/Sign-up/Agenda/Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a log about the discussion to a file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- It is recommended to add a comment by 2021/11/15. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting.
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion.




-- 
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* [ruby-core:105809] [Ruby master Misc#18266] DevelopersMeeting20211118Japan
  2021-10-25  9:11 [ruby-core:105781] [Ruby master Misc#18266] DevelopersMeeting20211118Japan mame (Yusuke Endoh)
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2021-10-26 10:39 ` [ruby-core:105807] " shugo (Shugo Maeda)
@ 2021-10-26 14:44 ` Dan0042 (Daniel DeLorme)
  2021-11-04 13:16 ` [ruby-core:105935] " Eregon (Benoit Daloze)
                   ` (7 subsequent siblings)
  11 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Dan0042 (Daniel DeLorme) @ 2021-10-26 14:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ruby-core

Issue #18266 has been updated by Dan0042 (Daniel DeLorme).


* [Feature #16252] Hash#partition should return hashes (dan0042)

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Misc #18266: DevelopersMeeting20211118Japan
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/18266#change-94328

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2021/11/18 13:00-17:00** (JST)
Place/Sign-up/Agenda/Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a log about the discussion to a file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- It is recommended to add a comment by 2021/11/15. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting.
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion.




-- 
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* [ruby-core:105935] [Ruby master Misc#18266] DevelopersMeeting20211118Japan
  2021-10-25  9:11 [ruby-core:105781] [Ruby master Misc#18266] DevelopersMeeting20211118Japan mame (Yusuke Endoh)
                   ` (3 preceding siblings ...)
  2021-10-26 14:44 ` [ruby-core:105809] " Dan0042 (Daniel DeLorme)
@ 2021-11-04 13:16 ` Eregon (Benoit Daloze)
  2021-11-05  8:55 ` [ruby-core:105943] " byroot (Jean Boussier)
                   ` (6 subsequent siblings)
  11 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Eregon (Benoit Daloze) @ 2021-11-04 13:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ruby-core

Issue #18266 has been updated by Eregon (Benoit Daloze).


* [Misc #18285] NoMethodError#message uses a lot of CPU/is really expensive to call (eregon)
  * OK to do https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/18285#note-11 and no longer call custom #inspect for NoMethodError?
  * Same for NameError?
* [Bug #18243] Ractor.make_shareable does not freeze the receiver of a Proc but allows accessing ivars of it (eregon)
  * How about this approach to fix it https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/18243#note-9?
  * I think passing a Proc with a non-shareable `self` to a Ractor is highly confusing semantically and in practice, and it's prone to bugs.


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Misc #18266: DevelopersMeeting20211118Japan
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/18266#change-94476

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2021/11/18 13:00-17:00** (JST)
Place/Sign-up/Agenda/Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a log about the discussion to a file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- It is recommended to add a comment by 2021/11/15. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting.
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion.




-- 
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* [ruby-core:105943] [Ruby master Misc#18266] DevelopersMeeting20211118Japan
  2021-10-25  9:11 [ruby-core:105781] [Ruby master Misc#18266] DevelopersMeeting20211118Japan mame (Yusuke Endoh)
                   ` (4 preceding siblings ...)
  2021-11-04 13:16 ` [ruby-core:105935] " Eregon (Benoit Daloze)
@ 2021-11-05  8:55 ` byroot (Jean Boussier)
  2021-11-05 18:42 ` [ruby-core:105950] " Eregon (Benoit Daloze)
                   ` (5 subsequent siblings)
  11 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: byroot (Jean Boussier) @ 2021-11-05  8:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ruby-core

Issue #18266 has been updated by byroot (Jean Boussier).


- [Feature #18273] `Class#subclasses`
  - Something we forgot to discuss as part of [Feature #14394]. 
  - There are cases where you only want direct subclasses, not the whole tree.
  - Can either be `Class#subclasses` like in Active Record.
  - Or could be a boolean parameter on `descendants`.

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Misc #18266: DevelopersMeeting20211118Japan
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/18266#change-94491

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2021/11/18 13:00-17:00** (JST)
Place/Sign-up/Agenda/Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a log about the discussion to a file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- It is recommended to add a comment by 2021/11/15. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting.
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion.




-- 
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* [ruby-core:105950] [Ruby master Misc#18266] DevelopersMeeting20211118Japan
  2021-10-25  9:11 [ruby-core:105781] [Ruby master Misc#18266] DevelopersMeeting20211118Japan mame (Yusuke Endoh)
                   ` (5 preceding siblings ...)
  2021-11-05  8:55 ` [ruby-core:105943] " byroot (Jean Boussier)
@ 2021-11-05 18:42 ` Eregon (Benoit Daloze)
  2021-11-08 18:01 ` [ruby-core:105970] " jeremyevans0 (Jeremy Evans)
                   ` (4 subsequent siblings)
  11 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Eregon (Benoit Daloze) @ 2021-11-05 18:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ruby-core

Issue #18266 has been updated by Eregon (Benoit Daloze).


* [Feature #18287] Support nil value for sort in Dir.glob (eregon)
  * Let's be consistent for core methods and treat `nil` as `false`, or raise if not boolean.


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Misc #18266: DevelopersMeeting20211118Japan
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/18266#change-94497

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2021/11/18 13:00-17:00** (JST)
Place/Sign-up/Agenda/Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a log about the discussion to a file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- It is recommended to add a comment by 2021/11/15. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting.
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion.




-- 
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* [ruby-core:105970] [Ruby master Misc#18266] DevelopersMeeting20211118Japan
  2021-10-25  9:11 [ruby-core:105781] [Ruby master Misc#18266] DevelopersMeeting20211118Japan mame (Yusuke Endoh)
                   ` (6 preceding siblings ...)
  2021-11-05 18:42 ` [ruby-core:105950] " Eregon (Benoit Daloze)
@ 2021-11-08 18:01 ` jeremyevans0 (Jeremy Evans)
  2021-11-10 12:02 ` [ruby-core:106011] " ioquatix (Samuel Williams)
                   ` (3 subsequent siblings)
  11 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: jeremyevans0 (Jeremy Evans) @ 2021-11-08 18:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ruby-core

Issue #18266 has been updated by jeremyevans0 (Jeremy Evans).


* [Feature #6210] load should provide a way to specify the top-level module (jeremyevans0)
  * This is fairly easy to implement in a backwards compatible manner, and seems useful.
  * Are we OK adding this feature?  If so, is the pull request acceptable?
* [Feature #11256] anonymous block forwarding (jeremyevans0)
  * This was accepted by @matz four years ago, but never committed.
  * I've created a new working version based on patches from @nobu and @mame.
  * There should be no backwards compatibility issues, as the proposed syntax is currently invalid.
  * Is it OK to add this feature?  If so, is the pull request acceptable?
* [Feature #11689] Add methods allow us to get visibility from Method and UnboundMethod object. (jeremyevans0)
  * As requested by @matz, I put together a patch for #public?, #private?, and #protected?.
  * Do we want to use this approach, or do we want to reconsider the #visibility method that returns a symbol?
  * If we want to use this approach, is the pull request acceptable?
* [Feature #12495] Make "private" return the arguments again, for chaining (jeremyevans0)
  * This seems useful, and the backwards compatible issues are quite small.
  * Are we OK adding this feature?  If so, is the pull request acceptable?
* [Feature #16663] Add block or filtered forms of Kernel#caller to allow early bail-out (jeremyevans0)
  * Currently it is not possible to generate a partial backtrace without knowing how many frames you need up front.
  * This feature allows the production of partial backtraces without that knowledge.
  * For example, you can use it to return the only the first frame that meets some criteria.
  * There shouldn't be any backwards compatibility issues, as caller/caller_locations does not currently use a block.
  * Are we OK adding this feature?  If so, is the pull request acceptable?

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Misc #18266: DevelopersMeeting20211118Japan
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/18266#change-94517

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2021/11/18 13:00-17:00** (JST)
Place/Sign-up/Agenda/Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a log about the discussion to a file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
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# Call for agenda items

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Example:

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  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- It is recommended to add a comment by 2021/11/15. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting.
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
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* [ruby-core:106011] [Ruby master Misc#18266] DevelopersMeeting20211118Japan
  2021-10-25  9:11 [ruby-core:105781] [Ruby master Misc#18266] DevelopersMeeting20211118Japan mame (Yusuke Endoh)
                   ` (7 preceding siblings ...)
  2021-11-08 18:01 ` [ruby-core:105970] " jeremyevans0 (Jeremy Evans)
@ 2021-11-10 12:02 ` ioquatix (Samuel Williams)
  2021-11-15 22:31 ` [ruby-core:106073] " duerst
                   ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  11 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: ioquatix (Samuel Williams) @ 2021-11-10 12:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ruby-core

Issue #18266 has been updated by ioquatix (Samuel Williams).


- [Bug #18296] Custom exception formatting should override `Exception#full_message`.

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Misc #18266: DevelopersMeeting20211118Japan
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/18266#change-94564

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2021/11/18 13:00-17:00** (JST)
Place/Sign-up/Agenda/Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a log about the discussion to a file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- It is recommended to add a comment by 2021/11/15. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting.
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion.




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* [ruby-core:106073] [Ruby master Misc#18266] DevelopersMeeting20211118Japan
  2021-10-25  9:11 [ruby-core:105781] [Ruby master Misc#18266] DevelopersMeeting20211118Japan mame (Yusuke Endoh)
                   ` (8 preceding siblings ...)
  2021-11-10 12:02 ` [ruby-core:106011] " ioquatix (Samuel Williams)
@ 2021-11-15 22:31 ` duerst
  2021-11-16  1:24 ` [ruby-core:106075] " mame (Yusuke Endoh)
  2021-11-16  8:55 ` [ruby-core:106081] " byroot (Jean Boussier)
  11 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: duerst @ 2021-11-15 22:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ruby-core

Issue #18266 has been updated by duerst (Martin Dürst).


- [Feature #18336] How to deal with Trojan Source vulnerability
  - This includes [A] Bidi characters [B] non-spacing characters (see [Feature #18337]), and [C] mixed-script identifiers.

----------------------------------------
Misc #18266: DevelopersMeeting20211118Japan
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/18266#change-94662

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2021/11/18 13:00-17:00** (JST)
Place/Sign-up/Agenda/Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a log about the discussion to a file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- It is recommended to add a comment by 2021/11/15. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting.
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion.




-- 
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* [ruby-core:106075] [Ruby master Misc#18266] DevelopersMeeting20211118Japan
  2021-10-25  9:11 [ruby-core:105781] [Ruby master Misc#18266] DevelopersMeeting20211118Japan mame (Yusuke Endoh)
                   ` (9 preceding siblings ...)
  2021-11-15 22:31 ` [ruby-core:106073] " duerst
@ 2021-11-16  1:24 ` mame (Yusuke Endoh)
  2021-11-16  8:55 ` [ruby-core:106081] " byroot (Jean Boussier)
  11 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: mame (Yusuke Endoh) @ 2021-11-16  1:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ruby-core

Issue #18266 has been updated by mame (Yusuke Endoh).


Warning: Please read the instruction carefully. You must briefly write what you want us to discuss as a comment. It is ideal if we can start discussing without reading the ticket itself.

----------------------------------------
Misc #18266: DevelopersMeeting20211118Japan
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/18266#change-94664

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2021/11/18 13:00-17:00** (JST)
Place/Sign-up/Agenda/Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a log about the discussion to a file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- It is recommended to add a comment by 2021/11/15. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting.
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion.




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* [ruby-core:106081] [Ruby master Misc#18266] DevelopersMeeting20211118Japan
  2021-10-25  9:11 [ruby-core:105781] [Ruby master Misc#18266] DevelopersMeeting20211118Japan mame (Yusuke Endoh)
                   ` (10 preceding siblings ...)
  2021-11-16  1:24 ` [ruby-core:106075] " mame (Yusuke Endoh)
@ 2021-11-16  8:55 ` byroot (Jean Boussier)
  11 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: byroot (Jean Boussier) @ 2021-11-16  8:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ruby-core

Issue #18266 has been updated by byroot (Jean Boussier).


[Feature #18339] GVL instrumentation API

  - I'd like 3 new internal tracepoints: `RUBY_INTERNAL_EVENT_GVL_ACQUIRE_ENTER`, `RUBY_INTERNAL_EVENT_GVL_ACQUIRE_EXIT`, `RUBY_INTERNAL_EVENT_GVL_RELEASE`
  - It would be also very useful if the number of waiting thread was part of the hook arguments.
  - It would allow to instrument the GVL which is a key metric for threaded environments, and to tune concurrency in applications.
  - Is the feature acceptable?
  - Any performance concerns when no hook is registered?

----------------------------------------
Misc #18266: DevelopersMeeting20211118Japan
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/18266#change-94670

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2021/11/18 13:00-17:00** (JST)
Place/Sign-up/Agenda/Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a log about the discussion to a file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- It is recommended to add a comment by 2021/11/15. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting.
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion.




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