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From: chris@chrisseaton.com
To: ruby-core@ruby-lang.org
Subject: [ruby-core:102080] [Ruby master Feature#12607] Ruby needs an atomic integer
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 02:34:05 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <redmine.journal-89939.20210114023404.10@ruby-lang.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: redmine.issue-12607.20160721050407.10@ruby-lang.org

Issue #12607 has been updated by chrisseaton (Chris Seaton).


> In my experience financial transactions will be handled at the DB level.

So imagine you're implementing the DB then.

> Can you elaborate?

If you want to perform an arbitrary operation on a counter you can do that atomically, without a lock, by doing a CAS between the value as it currently is and the value you want to set it to, even if it takes you a long time to compute that. Atomics let you do this in a lock-free way.

> so you should easily be able to give a concrete example other than generating unique sequential IDs

An use-case I was working on earlier today was profiling operations like coverage and sampling tools. These need to be reset as well if they're in danger of over-flowing a range that the machine can natively implement with low-overhead.

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Feature #12607: Ruby needs an atomic integer
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/12607#change-89939

* Author: shyouhei (Shyouhei Urabe)
* Status: Feedback
* Priority: Normal
* Assignee: ko1 (Koichi Sasada)
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(This one was derived from bug #12463)

Although I don't think += would become atomic, at the same time I understand Rodrigo's needs of _easier_ counter variable that resists inter-thread tampering.  I don't think ruby's Integer class can be used for that purpose for reasons (mainly because it is not designed with threads in mind).  Rather we should introduce a integer class which is carefully designed.

Why not import Concurrent::AtomicFixnum into core?



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-01-14  2:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <redmine.issue-12607.20160721050407.10@ruby-lang.org>
2021-01-06 12:06 ` [ruby-core:101956] [Ruby master Feature#12607] Ruby needs an atomic integer eregontp
2021-01-06 15:17 ` [ruby-core:101962] " dsisnero
2021-01-12  7:54 ` [ruby-core:102026] " ko1
2021-01-12 11:13 ` [ruby-core:102031] " eregontp
2021-01-13  7:32 ` [ruby-core:102056] " ko1
2021-01-13 18:05 ` [ruby-core:102070] " daniel
2021-01-13 21:45 ` [ruby-core:102074] " chris
2021-01-13 22:40 ` [ruby-core:102075] " marcandre-ruby-core
2021-01-13 23:45 ` [ruby-core:102076] " chris
2021-01-14  2:25 ` [ruby-core:102079] " daniel
2021-01-14  2:34 ` chris [this message]
2021-01-14  3:41 ` [ruby-core:102082] " daniel
2021-01-14 13:06 ` [ruby-core:102091] " eregontp
2021-01-14 14:43 ` [ruby-core:102095] " daniel
2021-01-29  8:59 ` [ruby-core:102291] " ko1
2021-01-29 12:28 ` [ruby-core:102299] " eregontp
2022-07-25 13:14 ` [ruby-core:109315] " Eregon (Benoit Daloze)
2022-07-25 14:22 ` [ruby-core:109316] " chrisseaton (Chris Seaton)

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