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* [ruby-core:101093] [Ruby master Misc#17346] DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan
@ 2020-11-26 14:14 mame
  2020-11-27 11:18 ` [ruby-core:101125] " eregontp
                   ` (15 more replies)
  0 siblings, 16 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: mame @ 2020-11-26 14:14 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: ruby-core

Issue #17346 has been reported by mame (Yusuke Endoh).

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Misc #17346: DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/17346

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2020/12/10 13:00-17:00**
Place/Sign-up/Agenda/Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a log about the discussion to a file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- Comment deadline: 2020/12/03 (one week before the meeting)
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory.  We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time.




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* [ruby-core:101125] [Ruby master Misc#17346] DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan
  2020-11-26 14:14 [ruby-core:101093] [Ruby master Misc#17346] DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan mame
@ 2020-11-27 11:18 ` eregontp
  2020-12-02 21:42 ` [ruby-core:101208] " merch-redmine
                   ` (14 subsequent siblings)
  15 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: eregontp @ 2020-11-27 11:18 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: ruby-core

Issue #17346 has been updated by Eregon (Benoit Daloze).


* [Feature #17351] Deprecate Random::DEFAULT (eregon)
  * Is it OK?

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Misc #17346: DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/17346#change-88805

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2020/12/10 13:00-17:00**
Place/Sign-up/Agenda/Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a log about the discussion to a file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- Comment deadline: 2020/12/03 (one week before the meeting)
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory.  We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time.




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* [ruby-core:101208] [Ruby master Misc#17346] DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan
  2020-11-26 14:14 [ruby-core:101093] [Ruby master Misc#17346] DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan mame
  2020-11-27 11:18 ` [ruby-core:101125] " eregontp
@ 2020-12-02 21:42 ` merch-redmine
  2020-12-03  6:56 ` [ruby-core:101210] " hunter_spawn
                   ` (13 subsequent siblings)
  15 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: merch-redmine @ 2020-12-02 21:42 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: ruby-core

Issue #17346 has been updated by jeremyevans0 (Jeremy Evans).


* [Feature #17055] Allow suppressing uninitialized instance variable and method redefined verbose mode warnings (jeremyevans0)
  * Can we completely remove uninitialized instance variable warnings?  Then we don't need this feature. I would very much like that in Ruby 3.
* [Bug #17280] Dir.glob with FNM_DOTMATCH matches ".." and "." and results in duplicated entries (jeremyevans0)
  * Do we want to change the behavior to exclude ".." and duplicate results?
  * If so, is the pull request acceptable?
* [Bug #17162] Dir['**/*'] : stack smashing detected when listing big amount of directories (jeremyevans0)
  * Do we want to add an internal recursion limit to try to prevent this?
* [Bug #17218] Range#step sometimes behaves unexpectedly with Rational endpoints and increment (jeremyevans0)
  * This is caused by calling `rb_int_*` functions directly instead of Ruby methods.
  * Do we want to switch `arith_seq_last` to using Ruby methods, and if so, should all of the `rb_int_*` be switched, or just the minimal number?
  * The pull request only changes three of the `rb_int_*` to `rb_funcall`, is it OK? 
* [Bug #13663] `String#upto` doesn't work as expected (jeremyevans0)
  * I think the current behavior of `String#upto` in this case is expected and not a bug.
  * Is it OK to close this?


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Misc #17346: DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/17346#change-88892

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2020/12/10 13:00-17:00**
Place/Sign-up/Agenda/Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a log about the discussion to a file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- Comment deadline: 2020/12/03 (one week before the meeting)
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory.  We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time.




-- 
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* [ruby-core:101210] [Ruby master Misc#17346] DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan
  2020-11-26 14:14 [ruby-core:101093] [Ruby master Misc#17346] DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan mame
  2020-11-27 11:18 ` [ruby-core:101125] " eregontp
  2020-12-02 21:42 ` [ruby-core:101208] " merch-redmine
@ 2020-12-03  6:56 ` hunter_spawn
  2020-12-03 12:14 ` [ruby-core:101215] " zn
                   ` (12 subsequent siblings)
  15 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: hunter_spawn @ 2020-12-03  6:56 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: ruby-core

Issue #17346 has been updated by MaxLap (Maxime Lapointe).


* [Feature #17342] Add Hash#fetch_set (maxlap)
  * Yes/no?


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Misc #17346: DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/17346#change-88895

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2020/12/10 13:00-17:00**
Place/Sign-up/Agenda/Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a log about the discussion to a file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- Comment deadline: 2020/12/03 (one week before the meeting)
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory.  We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time.




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* [ruby-core:101215] [Ruby master Misc#17346] DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan
  2020-11-26 14:14 [ruby-core:101093] [Ruby master Misc#17346] DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan mame
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2020-12-03  6:56 ` [ruby-core:101210] " hunter_spawn
@ 2020-12-03 12:14 ` zn
  2020-12-03 14:48 ` [ruby-core:101216] " marcandre-ruby-core
                   ` (11 subsequent siblings)
  15 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: zn @ 2020-12-03 12:14 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: ruby-core

Issue #17346 has been updated by znz (Kazuhiro NISHIYAMA).


* [Feature #17361] lambda(&block) does not warn with lazy proc allocation (znz)
  * optimization affects warnings


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Misc #17346: DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/17346#change-88899

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2020/12/10 13:00-17:00**
Place/Sign-up/Agenda/Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a log about the discussion to a file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- Comment deadline: 2020/12/03 (one week before the meeting)
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory.  We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time.




-- 
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* [ruby-core:101216] [Ruby master Misc#17346] DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan
  2020-11-26 14:14 [ruby-core:101093] [Ruby master Misc#17346] DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan mame
                   ` (3 preceding siblings ...)
  2020-12-03 12:14 ` [ruby-core:101215] " zn
@ 2020-12-03 14:48 ` marcandre-ruby-core
  2020-12-03 15:00 ` [ruby-core:101218] " marcandre-ruby-core
                   ` (10 subsequent siblings)
  15 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: marcandre-ruby-core @ 2020-12-03 14:48 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: ruby-core

Issue #17346 has been updated by marcandre (Marc-Andre Lafortune).


* [Feature #17314] Method declarations (marcandre)
  * Have `Module#protected`, `private`, `public` accept a single Array argument of symbols (and also `private_class_method/public_class_method` for consistency)
  * Have `Module#attr_reader`, `attr_writer`, `attr_accessor` return an array of the method newly defined methods instead of `nil`
  * Have `Module#alias_method` return the symbol of the method defined instead of the receiver
  * Notes: All points are related but not dependant and are requested separately. `Forwardable#def_delegators` and `ActiveSupport`'s `delegate` already return array of symbols


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Misc #17346: DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/17346#change-88900

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2020/12/10 13:00-17:00**
Place/Sign-up/Agenda/Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a log about the discussion to a file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- Comment deadline: 2020/12/03 (one week before the meeting)
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory.  We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time.




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* [ruby-core:101218] [Ruby master Misc#17346] DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan
  2020-11-26 14:14 [ruby-core:101093] [Ruby master Misc#17346] DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan mame
                   ` (4 preceding siblings ...)
  2020-12-03 14:48 ` [ruby-core:101216] " marcandre-ruby-core
@ 2020-12-03 15:00 ` marcandre-ruby-core
  2020-12-03 15:04 ` [ruby-core:101219] " marcandre-ruby-core
                   ` (9 subsequent siblings)
  15 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: marcandre-ruby-core @ 2020-12-03 15:00 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: ruby-core

Issue #17346 has been updated by marcandre (Marc-Andre Lafortune).


* [Feature #17363] Timeouts (marcandre)
  * Add `timeout` parameter to `Queue.pop`, `Ractor.receive`, ...
  * And/or `Timeout::wake` that would make these operations safer by raising only if thread is asleep (and presumably in a safe state)

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Misc #17346: DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/17346#change-88901

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2020/12/10 13:00-17:00**
Place/Sign-up/Agenda/Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a log about the discussion to a file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- Comment deadline: 2020/12/03 (one week before the meeting)
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory.  We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time.




-- 
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* [ruby-core:101219] [Ruby master Misc#17346] DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan
  2020-11-26 14:14 [ruby-core:101093] [Ruby master Misc#17346] DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan mame
                   ` (5 preceding siblings ...)
  2020-12-03 15:00 ` [ruby-core:101218] " marcandre-ruby-core
@ 2020-12-03 15:04 ` marcandre-ruby-core
  2020-12-03 23:27 ` [ruby-core:101234] " marcandre-ruby-core
                   ` (8 subsequent siblings)
  15 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: marcandre-ruby-core @ 2020-12-03 15:04 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: ruby-core

Issue #17346 has been updated by marcandre (Marc-Andre Lafortune).


* Meta: please change future deadlines from a week before the meetings to 1 or 2 days before (marcandre)

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Misc #17346: DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/17346#change-88902

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2020/12/10 13:00-17:00**
Place/Sign-up/Agenda/Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a log about the discussion to a file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- Comment deadline: 2020/12/03 (one week before the meeting)
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory.  We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time.




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* [ruby-core:101234] [Ruby master Misc#17346] DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan
  2020-11-26 14:14 [ruby-core:101093] [Ruby master Misc#17346] DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan mame
                   ` (6 preceding siblings ...)
  2020-12-03 15:04 ` [ruby-core:101219] " marcandre-ruby-core
@ 2020-12-03 23:27 ` marcandre-ruby-core
  2020-12-06 14:57 ` [ruby-core:101263] " kazuki
                   ` (7 subsequent siblings)
  15 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: marcandre-ruby-core @ 2020-12-03 23:27 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: ruby-core

Issue #17346 has been updated by marcandre (Marc-Andre Lafortune).


* [Feature #3830] Have a way to distinguish `nil` from closed queue in `Queue.pop` (marcandre)
  * Adding block form similar to `fetch` ok?

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Misc #17346: DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/17346#change-88914

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2020/12/10 13:00-17:00**
Place/Sign-up/Agenda/Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a log about the discussion to a file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- Comment deadline: 2020/12/03 (one week before the meeting)
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory.  We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time.




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* [ruby-core:101263] [Ruby master Misc#17346] DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan
  2020-11-26 14:14 [ruby-core:101093] [Ruby master Misc#17346] DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan mame
                   ` (7 preceding siblings ...)
  2020-12-03 23:27 ` [ruby-core:101234] " marcandre-ruby-core
@ 2020-12-06 14:57 ` kazuki
  2020-12-06 17:24 ` [ruby-core:101266] " connor.james.shea
                   ` (6 subsequent siblings)
  15 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: kazuki @ 2020-12-06 14:57 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: ruby-core

Issue #17346 has been updated by ktsj (Kazuki Tsujimoto).


* [Feature #17371] Reintroduce `expr in pat` (ktsj)
   * Is it OK?

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Misc #17346: DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/17346#change-88944

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2020/12/10 13:00-17:00**
Place/Sign-up/Agenda/Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a log about the discussion to a file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

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```
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```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- Comment deadline: 2020/12/03 (one week before the meeting)
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
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* [ruby-core:101266] [Ruby master Misc#17346] DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan
  2020-11-26 14:14 [ruby-core:101093] [Ruby master Misc#17346] DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan mame
                   ` (8 preceding siblings ...)
  2020-12-06 14:57 ` [ruby-core:101263] " kazuki
@ 2020-12-06 17:24 ` connor.james.shea
  2020-12-06 17:54 ` [ruby-core:101267] " larskanis
                   ` (5 subsequent siblings)
  15 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: connor.james.shea @ 2020-12-06 17:24 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: ruby-core

Issue #17346 has been updated by connorshea (Connor Shea).


- [Feature #15975] Add `Enumerable#pluck` method
  - It pulls values out of an array of hashes (e.g. array of user hashes, `users.pluck(:username)` gets all their usernames)
  - Please reconsider adding the method. I've added a comment to the issue with an example of when it'd be useful for me.
  - Is matz opposed to the method existing at all, or just the name?

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Misc #17346: DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/17346#change-88946

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2020/12/10 13:00-17:00**
Place/Sign-up/Agenda/Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a log about the discussion to a file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- Comment deadline: 2020/12/03 (one week before the meeting)
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory.  We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time.




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* [ruby-core:101267] [Ruby master Misc#17346] DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan
  2020-11-26 14:14 [ruby-core:101093] [Ruby master Misc#17346] DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan mame
                   ` (9 preceding siblings ...)
  2020-12-06 17:24 ` [ruby-core:101266] " connor.james.shea
@ 2020-12-06 17:54 ` larskanis
  2020-12-06 22:06 ` [ruby-core:101270] " marcandre-ruby-core
                   ` (4 subsequent siblings)
  15 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: larskanis @ 2020-12-06 17:54 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: ruby-core

Issue #17346 has been updated by larskanis (Lars Kanis).


* [Feature #12650 and #16604] Use UTF-8 for `ENV` and `Encoding.default_external` on Windows (larskanis)
  * Both have been postponed to ruby-3.0 years ago
  * `default_external = UTF-8` is already de facto standard


----------------------------------------
Misc #17346: DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/17346#change-88947

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2020/12/10 13:00-17:00**
Place/Sign-up/Agenda/Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a log about the discussion to a file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- Comment deadline: 2020/12/03 (one week before the meeting)
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory.  We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time.




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* [ruby-core:101270] [Ruby master Misc#17346] DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan
  2020-11-26 14:14 [ruby-core:101093] [Ruby master Misc#17346] DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan mame
                   ` (10 preceding siblings ...)
  2020-12-06 17:54 ` [ruby-core:101267] " larskanis
@ 2020-12-06 22:06 ` marcandre-ruby-core
  2020-12-07 18:41 ` [ruby-core:101289] " jonathan
                   ` (3 subsequent siblings)
  15 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: marcandre-ruby-core @ 2020-12-06 22:06 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: ruby-core

Issue #17346 has been updated by marcandre (Marc-Andre Lafortune).


* [Feature #17365] Adding `channel` to Ractor push api (marcandre)
  * yes/no?
* [Feature #17323] Ractor-local storage (marcandre)
  * What API to use?

----------------------------------------
Misc #17346: DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/17346#change-88950

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2020/12/10 13:00-17:00**
Place/Sign-up/Agenda/Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a log about the discussion to a file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- Comment deadline: 2020/12/03 (one week before the meeting)
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory.  We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time.




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* [ruby-core:101289] [Ruby master Misc#17346] DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan
  2020-11-26 14:14 [ruby-core:101093] [Ruby master Misc#17346] DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan mame
                   ` (11 preceding siblings ...)
  2020-12-06 22:06 ` [ruby-core:101270] " marcandre-ruby-core
@ 2020-12-07 18:41 ` jonathan
  2020-12-08  9:46 ` [ruby-core:101312] " naruse
                   ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  15 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: jonathan @ 2020-12-07 18:41 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: ruby-core

Issue #17346 has been updated by jonathanhefner (Jonathan Hefner).


* [Bug #15661] Disallow concurrent Dir.chdir with block (jonathanhefner)
  * This change is causing some issues in Rails (e.g. https://github.com/rails/rails/commit/ae5ecfe26c8 and https://github.com/rails/rails/issues/40756).
  * I have proposed an "escape hatch" mechanism in https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/15661#note-15.  Summary: wait until the end of the initial `chdir` block to check and raise error.
  * Can this be addressed for Ruby 3.0?


----------------------------------------
Misc #17346: DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/17346#change-88973

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2020/12/10 13:00-17:00**
Place/Sign-up/Agenda/Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a log about the discussion to a file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- Comment deadline: 2020/12/03 (one week before the meeting)
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory.  We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time.




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* [ruby-core:101312] [Ruby master Misc#17346] DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan
  2020-11-26 14:14 [ruby-core:101093] [Ruby master Misc#17346] DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan mame
                   ` (12 preceding siblings ...)
  2020-12-07 18:41 ` [ruby-core:101289] " jonathan
@ 2020-12-08  9:46 ` naruse
  2020-12-09  4:32 ` [ruby-core:101327] " marcandre-ruby-core
  2020-12-09  5:37 ` [ruby-core:101328] " takashikkbn
  15 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: naruse @ 2020-12-08  9:46 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: ruby-core

Issue #17346 has been updated by naruse (Yui NARUSE).


* [Misc #17376] Reduce GitHub Actions

----------------------------------------
Misc #17346: DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/17346#change-89006

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2020/12/10 13:00-17:00**
Place/Sign-up/Agenda/Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a log about the discussion to a file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- Comment deadline: 2020/12/03 (one week before the meeting)
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory.  We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time.




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* [ruby-core:101327] [Ruby master Misc#17346] DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan
  2020-11-26 14:14 [ruby-core:101093] [Ruby master Misc#17346] DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan mame
                   ` (13 preceding siblings ...)
  2020-12-08  9:46 ` [ruby-core:101312] " naruse
@ 2020-12-09  4:32 ` marcandre-ruby-core
  2020-12-09  5:37 ` [ruby-core:101328] " takashikkbn
  15 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: marcandre-ruby-core @ 2020-12-09  4:32 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: ruby-core

Issue #17346 has been updated by marcandre (Marc-Andre Lafortune).


* [Feature #17380] Useful `include/prepend` in `refine` (marcandre)
  * yes/no?


----------------------------------------
Misc #17346: DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/17346#change-89024

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2020/12/10 13:00-17:00**
Place/Sign-up/Agenda/Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a log about the discussion to a file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- Comment deadline: 2020/12/03 (one week before the meeting)
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory.  We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time.




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* [ruby-core:101328] [Ruby master Misc#17346] DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan
  2020-11-26 14:14 [ruby-core:101093] [Ruby master Misc#17346] DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan mame
                   ` (14 preceding siblings ...)
  2020-12-09  4:32 ` [ruby-core:101327] " marcandre-ruby-core
@ 2020-12-09  5:37 ` takashikkbn
  15 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: takashikkbn @ 2020-12-09  5:37 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: ruby-core

Issue #17346 has been updated by k0kubun (Takashi Kokubun).


* [Feature #16806] Struct#initialize accepts keyword arguments too by default (k0kubun)
  * Is there any update on kwargs since [the last discussion](https://github.com/ruby/dev-meeting-log/blob/master/DevelopersMeeting20200514Japan.md#feature-16806-structinitialize-accepts-keyword-arguments-too-by-default-k0kubun)? Can we introduce a warning for it in 3.0?

----------------------------------------
Misc #17346: DevelopersMeeting20201210Japan
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/17346#change-89025

* Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
# The next dev meeting

**Date: 2020/12/10 13:00-17:00**
Place/Sign-up/Agenda/Log: *TBD*

- Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
- Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
- Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
- We will write a log about the discussion to a file or to each ticket in English.
- All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
- The date, time and place are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
- *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please.

# Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

```
* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)
```

Example:

```
* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
```

- Comment deadline: 2020/12/03 (one week before the meeting)
- The format is strict.  We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86).  We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
- Your comment is mandatory.  We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time.




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