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From: daniel@dan42.com
To: ruby-core@ruby-lang.org
Subject: [ruby-core:94058] [Ruby master Feature#15973] Make it so Kernel#lambda always return a lambda
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 16:32:12 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <redmine.journal-80286.20190730163211.db78cd7866786082@ruby-lang.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: redmine.issue-15973.20190702132050@ruby-lang.org

Issue #15973 has been updated by Dan0042 (Daniel DeLorme).


akr (Akira Tanaka) wrote:
> The lambda-ness of Proc object affects control flow: the behavior of "return" and "break".
> 
> If lambda(&b) changes the lambda-ness of b, two control flow can exist.
> I think no programmer want to consider two control flow when implementing one block.

I think everyone can agree with that. The issue I guess is **should it be allowed to define a lambda using block syntax**, with the two main viewpoints being

A. `lambda()` and `define_method()` already allow this, so it's a well established pattern. So why not allow `my_anonymous_function_dsl{  }` ? In this case the one writing the block knows it's supposed to have lambda semantics. In 2.5 it became allowed in certain circumstances but that was apparently unintended (#15620)? A search through major gems showed no incompatibilities. Numerous tickets through the years indicate current behavior is surprising to many.

B. `lambda()` and `define_method()` should never have allowed this; proc/lambda semantics should be defined **lexically**. Changing it dynamically is surprising. We can't break compatibility but we should not dig ourselves any deeper. Use `my_anonymous_function_dsl&->{  }` instead. It's a change in behavior so there may be incompatibility issues.

Does this seem like an accurate summary?

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Feature #15973: Make it so Kernel#lambda always return a lambda
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/15973#change-80286

* Author: alanwu (Alan Wu)
* Status: Assigned
* Priority: Normal
* Assignee: matz (Yukihiro Matsumoto)
* Target version: 
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When Kernel#lambda receives a Proc that is not a lambda,
it returns it without modification. l propose changing `Kernel#lambda`
so it always returns a lambda.

Calling a method called lambda and having it effective do nothing was
not very intuitive.

https://github.com/ruby/ruby/pull/2262

Judging from marcandre's investigation here: https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/15620#note-1
changing the behavior should not cause much breakage, if any. 


This also happens to fix [Bug #15620]



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-07-30 16:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <redmine.issue-15973.20190702132050@ruby-lang.org>
2019-07-02 13:20 ` [ruby-core:93482] [Ruby master Feature#15973] Make Kernel#lambda always return lambda XrXr
2019-07-02 13:31 ` [ruby-core:93484] " matz
2019-07-02 20:49 ` [ruby-core:93502] [Ruby master Feature#15973] Make it so Kernel#lambda always return a lambda eregontp
2019-07-03  2:03 ` [ruby-core:93506] " shyouhei
2019-07-08  0:20 ` [ruby-core:93597] " XrXr
2019-07-08  0:35 ` [ruby-core:93598] " XrXr
2019-07-08 13:49 ` [ruby-core:93615] " shyouhei
2019-07-09 14:32 ` [ruby-core:93635] " XrXr
2019-07-09 14:38 ` [ruby-core:93636] " eregontp
2019-07-11  5:20 ` [ruby-core:93661] " akr
2019-07-11  8:18 ` [ruby-core:93674] " matz
2019-07-11 10:00 ` [ruby-core:93679] " knu
2019-07-11 11:57 ` [ruby-core:93682] " ruby-core
2019-07-11 16:27 ` [ruby-core:93692] " shyouhei
2019-07-12  4:11 ` [ruby-core:93708] " XrXr
2019-07-12  5:31 ` [ruby-core:93711] " shyouhei
2019-07-12  5:43 ` [ruby-core:93712] " akr
2019-07-12  9:30 ` [ruby-core:93717] " eregontp
2019-07-17 21:20 ` [ruby-core:93822] " XrXr
2019-07-26 17:53 ` [ruby-core:93935] " daniel
2019-07-30  8:08 ` [ruby-core:94038] " ko1
2019-07-30 13:31 ` [ruby-core:94054] " matz
2019-07-30 16:32 ` daniel [this message]
2019-08-05 16:04 ` [ruby-core:94150] " daniel
2019-09-28  3:46 ` [ruby-core:95140] [Ruby master Feature#15973] Let " XrXr
2019-12-21 21:09 ` [ruby-core:96397] " eregontp
2019-12-24 17:35 ` [ruby-core:96459] " ko1
2019-12-24 17:37 ` [ruby-core:96460] " ko1
2019-12-25 11:04 ` [ruby-core:96463] " eregontp
2019-12-25 11:13 ` [ruby-core:96464] " eregontp
2019-12-25 11:15 ` [ruby-core:96465] " eregontp
2019-12-25 11:20 ` [ruby-core:96467] " zverok.offline
2019-12-25 11:51 ` [ruby-core:96469] " eregontp
2019-12-25 19:34 ` [ruby-core:96475] " zverok.offline
2019-12-26  7:49   ` [ruby-core:96490] " atdot
2019-12-26 20:46 ` [ruby-core:96500] " daniel
2020-01-10 22:21 ` [ruby-core:96767] " eregontp
2020-01-16  8:12 ` [ruby-core:96900] " ko1

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