From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS4713 221.184.0.0/13 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from neon.ruby-lang.org (neon.ruby-lang.org [221.186.184.75]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 710B11F462 for ; Fri, 24 May 2019 06:15:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from neon.ruby-lang.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by neon.ruby-lang.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A24F120AEF; Fri, 24 May 2019 15:15:20 +0900 (JST) Received: from o1678916x28.outbound-mail.sendgrid.net (o1678916x28.outbound-mail.sendgrid.net [167.89.16.28]) by neon.ruby-lang.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 493A8120A65 for ; Fri, 24 May 2019 15:15:18 +0900 (JST) Received: by filter0041p3las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0041p3las1-9207-5CE78BF7-23 2019-05-24 06:15:19.293233298 +0000 UTC m=+46393.851121227 Received: from herokuapp.com (unknown [35.175.245.114]) by ismtpd0038p1mdw1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id RTKJ1is8T--5ofMxNj4OmA for ; Fri, 24 May 2019 06:15:19.227 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 06:15:19 +0000 (UTC) From: duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Redmine-MailingListIntegration-Message-Ids: 68300 X-Redmine-Project: ruby-trunk X-Redmine-Issue-Id: 15859 X-Redmine-Issue-Author: MSP-Greg X-Redmine-Sender: duerst X-Mailer: Redmine X-Redmine-Host: bugs.ruby-lang.org X-Redmine-Site: Ruby Issue Tracking System X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-SG-EID: =?us-ascii?Q?uQY=2F2xNrNfHHTWbKn6MBvvzfU5Pqk9I4lnOVb0CFDuvuj83pLLVTNNInqwFfq+?= =?us-ascii?Q?p+RsOtDQ2RBTXeM+WmCw9HgPUT5O1PpdoOESY=2F1?= =?us-ascii?Q?o+Sh7ijgOpLR4qhY2usQcIkHybf8nkZWcECeiTK?= =?us-ascii?Q?pPiq+SFGWeTSnIszGID0plHhKjyIBEyR8PlCTqi?= =?us-ascii?Q?06KtUdNfQvGxp6lYvOwNiTulNY7KKseE7jQ=3D=3D?= To: ruby-core@ruby-lang.org X-ML-Name: ruby-core X-Mail-Count: 92816 Subject: [ruby-core:92816] [Ruby trunk Misc#15859] Is Unicode in beta? X-BeenThere: ruby-core@ruby-lang.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ruby developers List-Id: Ruby developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: ruby-core-bounces@ruby-lang.org Sender: "ruby-core" Issue #15859 has been updated by duerst (Martin D=FCrst). Status changed from Open to Closed Ruby came out of Unicode 12.1 BETA with commit e713c2bde8. So this issue ca= n be closed. The reason it is more difficult to get out of beta than to enter beta is be= cause the behavior in beta is to always check for new versions of files. Th= at makes sure we are always up to date with respect to Unicode. But the beh= avior for non-beta is not not really check (because nothing is supposed to = change anyway). This creates two potential problems: 1) Files change from the latest beta to the final version. In this case, if= we switched to non-beta at the same time as Unicode, people who had compil= ed with beta wouldn't pick up the latest changes, but would think they are = now on the final version. 2) People who don't recompile Ruby regularly. In this case, they risk to mi= ss a beta version, and risk being on an outdated beta version when we switc= h to non-beta. This time around, there were no changes in the data files relevant for Ruby= from the last beta to final. So we didn't have to worry about 1). But 2) s= till was a concern. So we waited and stayed on beta for quite a bit after U= nicode itself went out of beta (quite a bit of that delay was also caused b= y me getting used to git :-(). Fortunately, Unicode Versions are not very frequent, and we usually use UNI= CODE_BETA =3D YES only locally, and deploy after Unicode is out of beta. Un= icode Version 12.1 was special, because the changes were needed in Japan fo= r the change of the Emperor on May 1st, but Unicode 12.1 only came out of b= eta about a week later. ---------------------------------------- Misc #15859: Is Unicode in beta? https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/15859#change-78190 * Author: MSP-Greg (Greg L) * Status: Closed * Priority: Normal * Assignee: = ---------------------------------------- I'm not totally sure, but is this flag causing Unicode files to not be cach= ed? ``` UNICODE_BETA =3D YES ``` https://github.com/ruby/ruby/blob/0723c107f4fb39f60113b44dd21d875c90da5456/= common.mk#L22 -- = https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/ Unsubscribe: