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From: shevegen@gmail.com
To: ruby-core@ruby-lang.org
Subject: [ruby-core:90310] [Ruby trunk Feature#15381] Let double splat call `to_hash` implicitly
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2018 12:58:45 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <redmine.journal-75414.20181205125843.c09a2a7bd5bb3f12@ruby-lang.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: redmine.issue-15381.20181205082504@ruby-lang.org

Issue #15381 has been updated by shevegen (Robert A. Heiler).


I myself have used *foobar quite a lot in ruby code, such as in:

    def foobar(*args)
      args.each # and do something then
    end

and I have also used &: considerably often too. The most frequent
use case for me personally is to use &: together with .map(). This
is an area where I actually prefer e. g. .map(&:strip) as opposed
to something like .map {|line| line.strip } or something like 
that. While I consider the second variant more readable to me,
the &: variant is significantly shorter. (& is not very pretty
though so I try to not use it too often).

I have not yet used **, I think (strangely enough; perhaps I have not
needed it so far). So I can not say much about the proposal itself
either way. I am both clueless and neither pro nor con. :)

I agree with the above reasoning of nil.to_h which makes sense (if
the functionality in itself is approved and I guess we have to ask
matz about this).

I think this is where matz has to decide whether ** should behave as
described, stay as it is (status quo), or have some other (implicit?)
meaning that was not yet mentioned. I really can not say either way,
but I think what is also said in the issue here is that * has a better
defined meaning right now than does **. So this is where I think matz
has to decide either way.

I would recommend adding this suggestion to an upcoming developer meeting,
but perhaps not for 2018 but 2019 instead - last dev meeting this year
should ideally be for the ruby x-mas release. :D

On a side note, does anyone have one or more good or simple use cases 
for **? I am trying to find an example for where it may be used but
I do not have any local example.

Last but not least, although I understand that the example given was
mostly to illustrate a point, so that's fine; the * and ** variants
with () and conditionals, are a bit ugly. :P

I understand it is the illustration of an example but I really hope
people don't write code such as "**({a: 1} if some_condition)"; it
takes my brain quite some time to process.

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Feature #15381: Let double splat call `to_hash` implicitly
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/15381#change-75414

* Author: sawa (Tsuyoshi Sawada)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
* Assignee: 
* Target version: 
----------------------------------------
The single splat calls `to_a` implicitly on the object (if it is not an array already) so that, for example, we have the convenience of writing conditions in an array literal:

```ruby
a = [
  *(:foo if some_condition),
  *(:bar if another_condition),
]
```

And the ampersand implicitly calls `to_proc` on the object (if it is not a proc already) so that we can substitute a block with an ampersand followed by a symbol:

```ruby
some_method(&:some_method_name)
```

Unlike the single splat and ampersand, the double splat does not seem to implicitly call a corresponding method. I propose that the double splat should call `to_hash` implicitly on the object if it not already a hash so that we can, for example, write a condition in a hash literal as follows:

```ruby
h = {
  **({a: 1} if some_condition),
  **({b: 2) if another_condition),
}
```

There may be some other benefits of this feature that I have not noticed yet.



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https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-12-05 12:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <redmine.issue-15381.20181205082504@ruby-lang.org>
2018-12-05  8:25 ` [ruby-core:90304] [Ruby trunk Feature#15381] Let double splat call `to_hash` implicitly sawadatsuyoshi
2018-12-05  8:28 ` [ruby-core:90305] " sawadatsuyoshi
2018-12-05 12:58 ` shevegen [this message]
2019-09-20  2:10 ` [ruby-core:94995] [Ruby master " drenmi
2019-09-21 21:05 ` [ruby-core:95024] " eregontp

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