From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS4713 221.184.0.0/13 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.5 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from neon.ruby-lang.org (neon.ruby-lang.org [221.186.184.75]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69DFD1F97E for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2018 08:32:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from neon.ruby-lang.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by neon.ruby-lang.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0505C1219B4; Fri, 23 Nov 2018 17:32:08 +0900 (JST) Received: from o1678948x4.outbound-mail.sendgrid.net (o1678948x4.outbound-mail.sendgrid.net [167.89.48.4]) by neon.ruby-lang.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E545C121984 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2018 17:32:05 +0900 (JST) Received: by filter0102p3iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0102p3iad2-20662-5BF7BB02-D 2018-11-23 08:32:02.239997474 +0000 UTC m=+649850.121628891 Received: from herokuapp.com (ec2-54-156-75-80.compute-1.amazonaws.com [54.156.75.80]) by ismtpd0001p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id GcF-mvz_Sk2yuMyTLPA5Rg for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2018 08:32:02.074 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 08:32:02 +0000 (UTC) From: matz@ruby-lang.org To: ruby-core@ruby-lang.org Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Redmine-MailingListIntegration-Message-Ids: 65397 X-Redmine-Project: ruby-trunk X-Redmine-Issue-Id: 15330 X-Redmine-Issue-Author: marcandre X-Redmine-Issue-Assignee: matz X-Redmine-Sender: matz X-Mailer: Redmine X-Redmine-Host: bugs.ruby-lang.org X-Redmine-Site: Ruby Issue Tracking System X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-SG-EID: ync6xU2WACa70kv/Ymy4QrNMhiuLXJG8OTL2vJD1yS4uGNw2OOMDlZCghhVs8JnA7Tz1+aE81mvu4h opPrf+j4DuChlPoow9+igAz9dGBSqbOfnbDwnNWEToC7gKgcN1imsh+vQskofTQ7heXPVDV2czbuAz HUZtZp+koAOzvvXRGsir+4/KHIfi8T152uisGcEBCZX+NbOnG+mLgNKjJw== X-ML-Name: ruby-core X-Mail-Count: 89998 Subject: [ruby-core:89998] [Ruby trunk Feature#15330] autoload_relative X-BeenThere: ruby-core@ruby-lang.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ruby developers List-Id: Ruby developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ruby-core-bounces@ruby-lang.org Sender: "ruby-core" Issue #15330 has been updated by matz (Yukihiro Matsumoto). I do not like autoload for its indeterministic nature (#5653). It caused issues (#10892, #11384, #12688) and they are hard to solve. But autoload is so widely used (especially in Rails), we couldn't have removed it. So, even though I understand the value of your proposal, I don't think it's wise to make imperfect autoloading more convenient. Matz. ---------------------------------------- Feature #15330: autoload_relative https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/15330#change-75105 * Author: marcandre (Marc-Andre Lafortune) * Status: Open * Priority: Normal * Assignee: matz (Yukihiro Matsumoto) * Target version: 2.6 ---------------------------------------- I'd like to propose a way to autoload a constant using a relative path. It could look like: ``` autoload_relative :MyConst, 'models/my_const' ``` My proposal raises two questions: 1) what's the future of `autoload`? I believe that `autoload` has been there for years, it is used successfully and has no real alternative. I looked at a sample of 430 top gems (took the 500 top ranked according to Libraries.io, removed those that I failed to process). The number of those gems that appear to use `autoload` at least once is 94 of those (22%). The number of lines in the code where `autoload` is called can be quite big. The top 5 are: vagrant: 235 yard: 206 ffaker: 155 aws-sdk: 152 rdoc: 92 This is a minimum bound, as some gems might be using loops, my processing would only detect the one place in the code with `autoload`. 2) are many autoladed paths relative? My preliminary numbers indicate that of the 94 gems using autoload, at least 75 are autoloading some relative files. That's a lower bound, as my algorithm is pretty crude and will only count the simplest cases as being relative. An example of gem my algorithm does not detect is `yard`, because the author wrote a small method to map the relative paths to global paths (code here: https://github.com/lsegal/yard/blob/master/lib/yard/autoload.rb#L3 ) Of those where my processing detects the relative requires, a vast majority are relative. The average is that 94% of autoloaded files are relative and would benefit from `require_relative` In summary: I am convinced that `autoload` should remain in Ruby indefinitely. `autoload_relative` would actually be more useful than `autoload`. Even if the future of `autoload` remains uncertain, I would recommend adding `autoload_relative`; if it is ever decided to actually remove `autoload`, removing `autoload_relative` would not really add to the (huge) burden of gem maintainers. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/