From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Original-To: poffice@blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp Delivered-To: poffice@blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp Received: from kankan.nagaokaut.ac.jp (kankan.nagaokaut.ac.jp [133.44.2.24]) by blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF3A417DD003 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 09:20:59 +0900 (JST) Received: from voscc.nagaokaut.ac.jp (voscc.nagaokaut.ac.jp [133.44.1.100]) by kankan.nagaokaut.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D987B5D8BC for ; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 09:54:35 +0900 (JST) Received: from neon.ruby-lang.org (neon.ruby-lang.org [221.186.184.75]) by voscc.nagaokaut.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9E418CC7E4 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 09:54:35 +0900 (JST) Received: from [221.186.184.76] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by neon.ruby-lang.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C13D12043D; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 09:54:34 +0900 (JST) X-Original-To: ruby-core@ruby-lang.org Delivered-To: ruby-core@ruby-lang.org Received: from o10.shared.sendgrid.net (o10.shared.sendgrid.net [173.193.132.135]) by neon.ruby-lang.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4AC57120400 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 09:54:30 +0900 (JST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sendgrid.me; h=from:to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id; s=smtpapi; bh=kGVk7SnQJaFiPCBjqzxyuDRboOA=; b=QD2Jnw9LgCw65LCIJd Tp7rCvGWOrLT9D4zM83zHduaTaEvPewUDa4Y5Rseg94sPWLAKJXugOkxTezj5rm+ DiSKn3EXmz8tZVcCkIcWuBoRqgmEP2tQEzFZCNOuxubgMoAJNCWRje2FFYTqfnJX 9A5Ob1stVEZ1rBZA8JCWX2Om8= Received: by filter0590p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0590p1mdw1.3953.569D893E3F 2016-01-19 00:54:22.958912685 +0000 UTC Received: from herokuapp.com (ec2-54-90-100-241.compute-1.amazonaws.com [54.90.100.241]) by ismtpd0003p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id 4eKhiqpWSIGf5-spI_fdLw Tue, 19 Jan 2016 00:54:23.262 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 00:54:23 +0000 From: billk@cts.com To: ruby-core@ruby-lang.org Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Redmine-MailingListIntegration-Message-Ids: 47529 X-Redmine-Project: ruby-trunk X-Redmine-Issue-Id: 12004 X-Redmine-Issue-Author: CoralineAda X-Redmine-Issue-Assignee: matz X-Redmine-Sender: spatulasnout X-Mailer: Redmine X-Redmine-Host: bugs.ruby-lang.org X-Redmine-Site: Ruby Issue Tracking System X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-SG-EID: ync6xU2WACa70kv/Ymy4QrNMhiuLXJG8OTL2vJD1yS6cfBqnPnIvhmkhFVll+YSZ1hVli/c/snAfOg hOfhGFMqBsVjPK9oxQ9kajoAUMa9rCFNUVxl/qatkTQHrXSzQijM4ML+Ioe1Up916FLfwCdvYAYhDb wIyxxFN1xl7uMsWURPJ+2ERH0nqN0gMc6ic9 X-ML-Name: ruby-core X-Mail-Count: 72916 Subject: [ruby-core:72916] [Ruby trunk - Misc #12004] Code of Conduct X-BeenThere: ruby-core@ruby-lang.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ruby developers List-Id: Ruby developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ruby-core-bounces@ruby-lang.org Sender: "ruby-core" Issue #12004 has been updated by B Kelly. Please, no. I'm utterly opposed to this sort of policing of language. (Apart from the anti-doxxing prohibition, which I'd support.) I don't think noises made by the perpetually offended should warrant special consideration (rather more the opposite.) For a glimpse at the motives behind the seemingly innocuous Contributor Covenant, notice how its author attempts to censure a developer on an open source project, for the thoughtcrime of having an opinion on twitter, completely unrelated to the project: https://github.com/opal/opal/issues/941 The following interview contains some thoughts by Eric S. Raymond and Meredith Patterson on this topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI53yys3dbA&feature=youtu.be&t=538 Given a choice between only two extremes, I'd far rather have Linus Torvalds telling me I'm an idiot and my code is shit, then exist in an offense-taking culture where various forms of criticism are re-branded as "harassment." Finally, in purely pragmatic terms regarding Ruby development: Why fix what isn't broken? Thanks for your consideration, Bill ---------------------------------------- Misc #12004: Code of Conduct https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/12004#change-56145 * Author: Coraline Ada Ehmke * Status: Assigned * Priority: Normal * Assignee: Yukihiro Matsumoto ---------------------------------------- I am the creator of the Contributor Covenant, a code of conduct for Open Source projects. At last count there are over 13,000 projects on Github that have adopted it. This past year saw adoption of Contributor Covenant by a lot of very large, very visible projects, including Rails, Github's Atom text editor, Angular JS, bundler, curl, diaspora, discourse, Eclipse, rspec, shoes, and rvm. The bundler team made code of conduct integration an option in the gem creation workflow, putting it on par with license selection. Many open source language communities have already adopted the code of conduct, including Elixir, Mono, the .NET foundation, F#, and Apple's Swift. RubyTogether also adopted a policy to only fund Ruby projects that had a solid code of conduct in place. Right now in the PHP community there is a healthy debate about adopting the Contributor Covenant. Since it came from and has been so widely adopted by the Ruby community at large, I think it's time that we consider adopting it for the core Ruby language as well. Our community prides itself on niceness. What a code of conduct does is define what we mean by nice. It states clearly that we value openness, courtesy, and compassion. That we care about and want contributions from people who may be different from us. That we pledge to respect all contributors regardless of their race, gender, sexual orientation, or other factors. And it makes it clear that we are prepared to follow through on these values with action when and if an incident arises. I'm asking that we join with the larger Ruby community in supporting the adoption of the Contributor Covenant for the Ruby language. I think that this will be an important step forward and will ensure the continued welcoming and supportive environment around Ruby. You can read the full text of the Contributor Covenant at http://contributor-covenant.org/version/1/3/0/ and learn more at http://contributor-covenant.org/. Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to hearing your thoughts. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/