From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Original-To: poffice@blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp Delivered-To: poffice@blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp Received: from kankan.nagaokaut.ac.jp (smtp.nagaokaut.ac.jp [133.44.2.24]) by blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id E30D019E003D for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2015 15:30:33 +0900 (JST) Received: from voscc.nagaokaut.ac.jp (voscc.nagaokaut.ac.jp [133.44.1.100]) by kankan.nagaokaut.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A76FB5D87F for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2015 16:03:08 +0900 (JST) Received: from neon.ruby-lang.org (neon.ruby-lang.org [221.186.184.75]) by voscc.nagaokaut.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A3F18CC7E4 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2015 16:03:08 +0900 (JST) Received: from [221.186.184.76] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by neon.ruby-lang.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D631205BA; Mon, 28 Dec 2015 16:03:07 +0900 (JST) X-Original-To: ruby-core@ruby-lang.org Delivered-To: ruby-core@ruby-lang.org Received: from o2.heroku.sendgrid.net (o2.heroku.sendgrid.net [67.228.50.55]) by neon.ruby-lang.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 069BA120484 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2015 16:03:03 +0900 (JST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sendgrid.me; h=from:to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id; s=smtpapi; bh=vTn5kulxtE1TIquI2l/zM2AiZTU=; b=fHi82vfxWY//vEozLo 28sSYWuchxTZJzEXgms50qBbdOKTdDCQvWF4L3fLq0lRJJLgUqvhZxuvVRnYg5EF gxzZM8KykFcPLYnpiOL/XPjrZQKmXZLhEuMOWe64PknGr0bIFe7z5T0S6tFJcNKU JO5EoWd8MoXkoEz4TU+6tbARY= Received: by filter0588p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0588p1mdw1.12122.5680DEA0E 2015-12-28 07:02:56.162943868 +0000 UTC Received: from herokuapp.com (ec2-54-146-177-160.compute-1.amazonaws.com [54.146.177.160]) by ismtpd0001p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id nhVEnn-qTAKwZkVGxI-iIg Mon, 28 Dec 2015 07:02:56.224 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2015 07:02:56 +0000 From: matthew@kerwin.net.au To: ruby-core@ruby-lang.org Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Redmine-MailingListIntegration-Message-Ids: 47144 X-Redmine-Project: ruby-trunk X-Redmine-Issue-Id: 11882 X-Redmine-Issue-Author: hcatlin X-Redmine-Issue-Assignee: matz X-Redmine-Sender: phluid61 X-Mailer: Redmine X-Redmine-Host: bugs.ruby-lang.org X-Redmine-Site: Ruby Issue Tracking System X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Auto-Submitted: auto-generated X-SG-EID: ync6xU2WACa70kv/Ymy4QrNMhiuLXJG8OTL2vJD1yS7NRmgYNXs1A3ldwZzYaT6pATelZTT+OptXg/ eP05/jL0vA2/WvaHOtN7Hsitx1iRsv9FAHcm1oELLnctt55pYcYV8fZHAatFKjCwXgW1AnwMsj0EWb epU2F/Bg08iCDrZ0K8eSkoSiVf949aX3WCvOAwrVXJPslRIKLzJMazpm8A== X-ML-Name: ruby-core X-Mail-Count: 72544 Subject: [ruby-core:72544] [Ruby trunk - Feature #11882] Map or NamedMap X-BeenThere: ruby-core@ruby-lang.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ruby developers List-Id: Ruby developers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ruby-core-bounces@ruby-lang.org Sender: "ruby-core" Issue #11882 has been updated by Matthew Kerwin. I used to have a strong opinion about the difference between String and Symbol, but ever since Symbol GC (and the resulting distinction between GC-able Symbols and "real" Symbols) I don't care so much. Now people can easily create what they call a 'Symbol' but think of as a less-useful, interned String; and it's safe because it can be GC'd. This fits what they've done all along, even though it used to be "wrong." That said, I think the `{{}}` syntax doesn't work. Perhaps, borrowing from numeric 'r' and 'i' suffixes, a suffix on the Hash literal could work? Like: `{}m` (mnemonic: "map"), or `{}s` (mnemonic: "safe") ---------------------------------------- Feature #11882: Map or NamedMap https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/11882#change-55806 * Author: Hampton Catlin * Status: Open * Priority: Normal * Assignee: Yukihiro Matsumoto ---------------------------------------- Hash is one of the best features of Ruby. I remember being so pleased when I first learned Ruby to find out that *anything* could be a key and that you could do some really clever things with scripts, if you key of non-traditional elements. However, like many people, 10 years into using Ruby, I still am writing code to cast around symbols to strings and strings to symbols, just to use Hash as a more traditional dictionary, keyed with string-like values. And, explaining to a junior programmers why they broke the code by using a key of a different type... it's not the most elegant thing to have to explain over and over. Several proposals exist for how to deal with this, and all have been rejected... however it doesn't seem like it's for essential reasons, more technical or syntactic issues. Coming up with syntax is something I quite enjoy (Sass/Haml), so I thought I'd make a pitch for it. Requirements: 1) Doesn't break existing code 2) Doesn't totally destroy the parser 3) Seems simple to differentiate 4) Clear upgrade path My proposal is to introduce an entirely different type of Hash, called a Map (or NamedMap, if that's too ambiguous), that requires a string-like key. There are no other types of keys allowed on this Hash, other than either strings or symbols. Internally, each key would be considered a symbol only. ~~~ map = Map.new(a: 2, b: 3) map["a"] #=> 2 map[:a] #=> 2 ~~~ Already, we're better than HashWithIndifferentAccess, as it's clearly a bit easier to type. ;) What about a literal syntax? ~~~ map = {{a: 2}} empty_map = {{}} ~~~ As far as I can tell in the Ruby-syntax style, this should be pretty easy to distinguish syntactically from both a regular hash literal and a block. Further, as almost every method's option hash is string-keyed, you could easily define this. ~~~ def my _method(arg1, options = {{}}) end ~~~ Immediately, you could deal with your options hash, and not have to stress about if the end user has passed in strings or symbols into the options. It would be trivial to create a Map polyfill for most libraries to start using the non-literal version right away, as it would basically be HashWithIndifferentAccess, except we need to guarantee that the keys are string-like. So, to sum up, we avoid the 'breaking other people's existing code' by introducing a new data-type, the literal syntax (I think) should be fairly easy to implement, and it makes a very natural keyed data object (e.g. Javascript Objects) and brings that to Ruby. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/